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post #2071 of 6759

timbre vs. accuracy is a toughie!  it's nice to see that people are paying attention to phase/time-domain issues and not just amplitude/frequency-response stuff.  Of course, a lot of this relates to whether people listen to 'acoustic' vs. electronic instruments/recordings, and how many '/'s they can fit into one post biggrin.gif.

 

 

I have been very curious about the ASG2's, as I like my 1.2s.  Bought the new Cardas yesterday, so even a great trade-in offer from Dale will have to wait.

 

Cheers, y'all!

post #2072 of 6759
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Originally Posted by fzman View Post

timbre vs. accuracy is a toughie!  it's nice to see that people are paying attention to phase/time-domain issues and not just amplitude/frequency-response stuff.  Of course, a lot of this relates to whether people listen to 'acoustic' vs. electronic instruments/recordings, and how many '/'s they can fit into one post biggrin.gif
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I have been very curious about the ASG2's, as I like my 1.2s.  Bought the new Cardas yesterday, so even a great trade-in offer from Dale will have to wait.

Cheers, y'all!

Lol there's just so many factors and variables that it's hard to keep it all straight much less take it all into account.

The trade-in/upgrade offer ends on August 12th iirc so... do it! We need a Cardas v. G-2 comparison on this thread and you're just the man for the job. biggrin.gif
Edited by vwinter - 7/27/13 at 10:07am
post #2073 of 6759
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


Lol there's just so many factors and variables that it's hard to keep it all straight much less take it all into account.

The trade-in/upgrade offer ends on August 12th iirc so... do it! We need a Cardas v. G-2 comparison on this thread and you're just the man for the job. biggrin.gif

 

I think only the ASG-1.x to 1.3 trade-in expires. I'm pretty sure they'll keep the ASG-2 upgrade going. 

post #2074 of 6759
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Originally Posted by kyuuketsuki View Post

I think only the ASG-1.x to 1.3 trade-in expires. I'm pretty sure they'll keep the ASG-2 upgrade going. 

The 1.0-1.2 to 2 expired in August the last I checked the original Facebook post. Did they change it? Because that would be great for people who can't upgrade now if they did.
post #2075 of 6759

I'm now thinking of getting the FiiO cable, since the RC-WT1 is only $30. It would be interesting to see if I could hear any differences between the three cables (stock, Silver Dragon and FiiO). I do like the length on the Silver Dragon. I don't hear that much difference. Also the comfort is better. 

 

Oh as an aside... I dropped them today. Nary a scratch on them. There is a little blemish on the underside of the right ear, but it is barely noticeable. It is basically a few dents in the paint job made by the concrete. But there is no discolouration or anything of the like. These things are just well built. 


Edited by kyuuketsuki - 7/29/13 at 7:30pm
post #2076 of 6759

so uh, got the demos. Not sure what else to add, everything seems to be covered already. The bass quantity is plenty even when opening the bass port to the first notch. If the bass port is closed, I think the bass quantity is more than neutral. I don't think there's much of a point setting the bass port at the third or fourth (fully open) notch. The mids and treble just get moved to the back. It's full of bass rumble. Buying this just for booming bass? There are definitely cheaper options.

 

Moving on to quality, bass quality is very good. For those who read my earlier posts, I was interested to compare this to my FXZ200. I'm not sure which one has "better" bass. But ASG bass is definitely more forward. But if I EQ them both to a similar sound signature, then, the impact is the same. Maybe ASG-2 has the upper hand. It was just hard to EQ them to a similar sound signature. The deepness is probably around the same. Maybe FXZ200 has the upper hand. It was a bit troublesome to compare since FXZ200 is harder to driver, then I have to turn the volume up 2 notches. I was switching back and forth between 2 IEMs.

 

The treble was a bit weird. Sometimes, it feels sharp or very high. But it's not really thin treble. I EQ'ed the 4KHz ~3dB to get a more brassy feeling and more treble in a way. But most here probably would find it sibilant. I like treble boost so what I like probably is not what most here would like. So I understand why Aurisonics did this.

As for mids, FXZ200 is more forward. Don't know what to say, praise or comment.

 

Somehow, I like the timbre more on the FXZ200 more, for the bass and treble. But I might be biased since I have been using FX700 for a year and FXZ200 for a couple month. It's just that the bass of ASG-2 reminds me of PFE 232 on black filter, which boosts bass and treble. I don't like when drums sound like that. It's like rock solid boooooom. Not like actually sound like the bass drum is being hit by a bass drum stick. I guess it's just preference.

 

and of course, the isolation is better than FXZ200. The soundstage is also bigger.

 

So would I buy this? uh, I'm not sure actually. I mean it is $550. So probably not.

Also, I did all my listening on iPod Touch 5th Generation. My listening volume for ASG-2 is around 30-40% volume and FXZ200 is around 50% volume. I use EQ 10, a 10-band EQ app in app store.

 

 

Also want to add that I can't really tell the difference of sound quality between FX700, AKG K3003 and Ultrasone IQ when they are EQ'ed to a similar sound signature. But others have informed me that FX700 pretty much does 90% of what K3003 does. So I guess I don't have hearing problems. In my opinion, if you don't use EQ, it's all about the preference of the presentation of the IEM. Sound quality gets to a certain point where we can't appreciate it anymore.

 

That's all, I guess


Edited by Mini0510 - 7/30/13 at 5:40pm
post #2077 of 6759

ASG2 is way more accurate and detailed compared to the FXZ200. It isn't even a close call IMHO. I find that the ASG2 plays all genres well especially brightly mastered music. The right tips do wonders. I am actually using Audio Technica's single flange from my CKS1000's. They are reach a little deeper into the ear canal.

post #2078 of 6759
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Originally Posted by Eugguy View Post

ASG2 is way more accurate and detailed compared to the FXZ200. It isn't even a close call IMHO. I find that the ASG2 plays all genres well especially brightly mastered music. The right tips do wonders. I am actually using Audio Technica's single flange from my CKS1000's. They are reach a little deeper into the ear canal.

 

Curious: how do you find the ASG2's compare to the CSK1000's?

post #2079 of 6759
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mini0510 View Post

 

 

 

Thanks for the impressions!

 

I have to say, if the FXZ-100 is any indication of the FXZ-200's quality (and most say they're incredibly close), the FXZ-200 will not even be in the same mention as the ASG-2. I found the MH1C better than the FXZ-100, and the GR07 positively spanks it. 

 

The ASG-2 puts the FXZ-100 over it's knee, spanks it with reckless abandon, then tells it to go to its room. I imagine it's the same for the 200.

post #2080 of 6759
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

Thanks for the impressions!

 

I have to say, if the FXZ-100 is any indication of the FXZ-200's quality (and most say they're incredibly close), the FXZ-200 will not even be in the same mention as the ASG-2. I found the MH1C better than the FXZ-100, and the GR07 positively spanks it. 

 

The ASG-2 puts the FXZ-100 over it's knee, spanks it with reckless abandon, then tells it to go to its room. I imagine it's the same for the 200.

Don't know. Like I said in my last few sentences. It's all about perception and presentation. I don't see how the sound quality of ASG-2 is better than FXZ200. I made them fairly close to each other in sound signature. I'm hearing the same thing in both IEMs, you know.

Even when both are not EQ'ed, I don't really hear the sound quality difference. What's defined as quality? It seems like I hear everything the way it's suppose to for both IEMs.

So I don't know. 

post #2081 of 6759
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Originally Posted by Mini0510 View Post

so uh, got the demos. Not sure what else to add, everything seems to be covered already. The bass quantity is plenty even when opening the bass port to the first notch. If the bass port is closed, I think the bass quantity is more than neutral. I don't think there's much of a point setting the bass port at the third or fourth (fully open) notch. The mids and treble just get moved to the back. It's full of bass rumble. Buying this just for booming bass? There are definitely cheaper options.

Moving on to quality, bass quality is very good. For those who read my earlier posts, I was interested to compare this to my FXZ200. I'm not sure which one has "better" bass. But ASG bass is definitely more forward. But if I EQ them both to a similar sound signature, then, the impact is the same. Maybe ASG-2 has the upper hand. It was just hard to EQ them to a similar sound signature. The deepness is probably around the same. Maybe FXZ200 has the upper hand. It was a bit troublesome to compare since FXZ200 is harder to driver, then I have to turn the volume up 2 notches. I was switching back and forth between 2 IEMs.

The treble was a bit weird. Sometimes, it feels sharp or very high. But it's not really thin treble. I EQ'ed the 4KHz ~3dB to get a more brassy feeling and more treble in a way. But most here probably would find it sibilant. I like treble boost so what I like probably is not what most here would like. So I understand why Aurisonics did this.
As for mids, FXZ200 is more forward. Don't know what to say, praise or comment.

Somehow, I like the timbre more on the FXZ200 more, for the bass and treble. But I might be biased since I have been using FX700 for a year and FXZ200 for a couple month. It's just that the bass of ASG-2 reminds me of PFE 232 on black filter, which boosts bass and treble. I don't like when drums sound like that. It's like rock solid boooooom. Not like actually sound like the bass drum is being hit by a bass drum stick. I guess it's just preference.

and of course, the isolation is better than FXZ200. The soundstage is also bigger.

So would I buy this? uh, I'm not sure actually. I mean it is $550. So probably not.
Also, I did all my listening on iPod Touch 5th Generation. My listening volume for ASG-2 is around 30-40% volume and FXZ200 is around 50% volume. I use EQ 10, a 10-band EQ app in app store.

 

Also want to add that I can't really tell the difference of sound quality between FX700, AKG K3003 and Ultrasone IQ when they are EQ'ed to a similar sound signature. But others have informed me that FX700 pretty much does 90% of what K3003 does. So I guess I don't have hearing problems. In my opinion, if you don't use EQ, it's all about the preference of the presentation of the IEM. Sound quality gets to a certain point where we can't appreciate it anymore.

That's all, I guess

Reading this makes me wonder if I made the right decision to choose the asg... Although your review makes it seem as if you are really unsure of what your thoughts are about the ASG-2 as well as the EQing done. Is the signature not to your liking? Oh and I dont mean to be harsh in any way. Just wondering.
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Originally Posted by emusic13 View Post

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Reading this makes me wonder if I made the right decision to choose the asg... Although your review makes it seem as if you are really unsure of what your thoughts are about the ASG-2 as well as the EQing done. Is the signature not to your liking? Oh and I dont mean to be harsh in any way. Just wondering.

Most people seem to like it. So unless you are set and looking for something really particular, you will probably like it. But I don't know why would you order this and not wait for a demo though.

Also, it's because i'm already satisfied with FXZ200. All I'm looking for is more isolation and more treble. But I didn't really get what I was looking for. I mean, I even tried the AKG K3003 and Ultrasone IQ. I just didn't try the Sennheiser IE800 yet, and the upcoming SE846

post #2083 of 6759
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Originally Posted by Mini0510 View Post

Most people seem to like it. So unless you are set and looking for something really particular, you will probably like it. But I don't know why would you order this and not wait for a demo though.

Also, it's because i'm already satisfied with FXZ200. All I'm looking for is more isolation and more treble. But I didn't really get what I was looking for. I mean, I even tried the AKG K3003 and Ultrasone IQ. I just didn't try the Sennheiser IE800 yet, and the upcoming SE846

 

And you didn't find them necessarily better than the FXZ-200?

post #2084 of 6759
You're might get the extra treble with the IE800, but I don't really think you can get more isolation with the stock tips.
For Shure IEMs (I've used 535 and 215Ltd) olive tips to me give the isolation that I needs, compared to silicone or foam tips, but can only try the SE846 this weekend though.
post #2085 of 6759
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

Thanks for the impressions!

 

I have to say, if the FXZ-100 is any indication of the FXZ-200's quality (and most say they're incredibly close), the FXZ-200 will not even be in the same mention as the ASG-2. I found the MH1C better than the FXZ-100, and the GR07 positively spanks it. 

 

The ASG-2 puts the FXZ-100 over it's knee, spanks it with reckless abandon, then tells it to go to its room. I imagine it's the same for the 200.

 

 

While I don't agree with eke's statement at all about the MH1c and GR07 spanking the FXZ100, I do agree with him about the ASG-2 being on a whole different plane than the JVC. To me it's way better than all three earphones mentioned (well all four if you count the FXZ200).

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