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correct, but this would help to put you on a diet k701smile.gif


I am very fit do not need it ;)

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Don't forget fine wines ;).


Fine wine is food for the soul.

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Fine wine is food for the soul.

 

So is Gin in the South. biggrin.gif

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Back on topic… Can someone please recommend a good wine to fully appreciate the ASG-2s, and perhaps another wine to fully appreciate the SD3s? And, while I'm at it, does anyone know if there is some "Uber" wine that could possibly help me solve / deal with the serious incoherence issues and grainy treble of the K3003s, at least for a couple of hours?
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Fine wine is food for the soul.

 

depends on the intake amount tongue.gif

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Back on topic… Can someone please recommend a good wine to fully appreciate the ASG-2s, and perhaps another wine to fully appreciate the SD3s? And, while I'm at it, does anyone know if there is some "Uber" wine that could possibly help me solve / deal with the serious incoherence issues and grainy treble of the K3003s, at least for a couple of hours?

Stay away from hybrid designs! I heard that people who mix wines also like to eat little puppies.

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Back on topic… Can someone please recommend a good wine to fully appreciate the ASG-2s, and perhaps another wine to fully appreciate the SD3s? And, while I'm at it, does anyone know if there is some "Uber" wine that could possibly help me solve / deal with the serious incoherence issues and grainy treble of the K3003s, at least for a couple of hours?
ASG2, anything very strong to numb your hearing...a Chilean maybe. SD3 some very rare German frozen wine, and for the 3003, maybe some Alscace wine to remind the lack of coherence of this part of France, much fought over with the German.
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Well first, lets just get this out of the way: The ASG-2 (G-2) ergonomics, comfort, and cable trounce all over the 1plus2 (1p2). Not that the 1p2 is uncomfortable by any means, but the G-2 is SO comfortable. Reminds me of Westone and how they just slip in nice and tight and you don't worry about them. Part of the 1p2 problem is the unwieldy cable. It did not bother me that much until the G-2 reminded me that cable flex can be easy to deal with. I have to occasionally press my 1p2 in to my ears to maintain a secure fit. With the same Ortofon tips on the G-2, maintaining fit/seal is never a distracting thought when I am concentrating on the music. 

 

The Sound?

I listened to some ambient, warm, electronic music (Tycho, Dive)

I listened to a Joshua Bell Violin/Piano Concerto

I listened to some Norah Jones, Regina Spektor, Adele, and Bjork for some vocals. 

I listened to some brightly produced experimental music (Tineidae)

 

Among other stuff. 

 

In a nutshell: I think the 1p2 is cleaner and clearer. It has more presence and detail up top. The 1p2 mids are a tad more recessed than the G-2, as is the bass. The 1p2 has just the right amount of bass for me. I thought the G-2 just a tad much for my tastes. It was clean, plump, and robust, no doubt, very good quality, but a bit too present. 

 

More on bass - the 1p2 has less of it. But I feel it's more liquid and textured, not as plump. The 1p2 is very agile, and subtle at times with its bass. Like a nimble Tiger cub, growing into a young adult and hitting its hunting prime. The G-2 is the older Tiger. Bigger, established. But the younger doesn't yet know that it's faster, more agile and nimble. The G-2 is robust and dynamic. The 1p2 is liquid and textured, and still very present, but not as much as the G-2. 

 

The midrange on both are very different, both good. The G-2's midrange is definitely thicker, richer, more colored as well as more present. Norah Jones sounds warm and inviting, begging you to open up a bottle of red with her. The vocals on the 1p2 borderline on sibilant, which can be a tad distracting. It's not too bad. I'm sensitive to it, and I've heard much, much worse. It's something I can deal with. But the vocals on the 1p2 are so clean and clear and transparent. You get drawn into the purity of her voice, like sipping the purity of freshly melted water from glacier runoff. It's so clean, clear, refreshing - pure. 

 

Which mids do I like better? Man, that's tough. Honestly I'd like it right in the middle of the two. But I just recently got out of a relationship with a Westone ES5 that I ended up not being able to stand due to its so richly colored mids, they exuded congestion to me. Which is funny because I'm a Final Audio fan which can be very mid-centric... but they have an upper mid energy that keeps it clean. 

 

Right now, I pick the purest sip of water after a day of spirit-elevating hiking in the Galapagos, rather than a bottle of Cab with Norah. 

 

The high end is no contest to me. There's more detail, and presence, while possessing the quality to be able to be subtle and gentle, euphoric, and yet the ability to be very vivacious as well. Read Bright! With bright recordings, the 1p2 is WAY too much. Harsh. With the right recording the highs are sublime. Unfortunately a lot of the experimental music I like is brightly mastered, and I preferred and was grateful for the G-2 presentation for that music. But on great recordings, the high end lacked for me on the G-2. It lacked anything magical or special - It was just sorta there. 

 

Eke mentioned that when you go to the G-2 after 1p2 it sounds muddy and congested, and when you go to the 1p2 it sounds bright and tinny, until the brain settles in. I definitely get that. But the G-2 sounded muddier than the 1p2 sounded bright and tinny. It was more refreshing coming back to 1p2 after being bogged down with the G-2 to me. 

 

I think one of the biggest differences was imaging and soundstage. Even though the mids were more recessed on the 1p2, they had a 3-D magic to them, and sense of wrapping you in aural bliss that was missing on the G-2. To me, the 1p2 outclasses the G-2 in imaging and soundstage. Everything in the sonic landscape seems much more clear on the 1p2. 

 

I'm at the point in my journey were I have really gotten away from bass in my music, unless I want to bomb some EDM on occasion. To me, the 1p2 bass is perfect. I wish the 1p2 upper mid was a touch less hot, but I love the high end extension and clarity. Why I prefer the 1p2 right now is the soundstage. That is also a new-found love of mine. Previously I did not take to the HD800. Now, it shows much potential. 

 

This is all until I have to deal with the horrendous ergonomics of the 1p2. In a truly portable, on-the-go setup, that might be a deal breaker. I like portable gear because I can transport it easily. I rarely use gear actually on-the-go. 

 

This is just my initial 2 cents. 

Has it been that long since you got out of that relationship? ;)

 

Anyways, looks like I'm following suit. Picked up a pair of ASG-2.

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So in the case of ASG-2's sound signature, do you recommend a pure copper-based custom cable, a copper with silver plated cable or a silver+gold custom cable? Since ASG-2 leans more on the mid-centric/bassy side, it would go better with silver or silver+gold cable for improved clarity/brightness than copper cable? This question goes out to anyone who has a recommendation.

 

EDIT: Also I read that many comparison between ASG-2 versus 1plus2 are made based on using ASG-2's cheap stock cable whereas 1plus2 is using Tralucent's silver/silver+gold (not uber) cable with 1plus2 having better clarity, imaging and 3D soundstage. What if we pit ASG-2 using similar high-end silver+gold cable against 1plus2? Would it not close the gap in that area of sound signature and still maintain ASG-2's advantage of richer midrange for vocals?


Edited by Bluebear - 7/19/13 at 3:40am
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Quick question, it seems like the Ortofon tips are quite popular and most people recommend them for the asg-2. Anyone happen to know the sizing for these? I usually usemedium silicone tips, medium shure olives, but use large comply foams. Just want to make sure I get the right size, thanks!

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Quick question, it seems like the Ortofon tips are quite popular and most people recommend them for the asg-2. Anyone happen to know the sizing for these? I usually usemedium silicone tips, medium shure olives, but use large comply foams. Just want to make sure I get the right size, thanks!

 

Get the large size Ortofon.

Their tips sizes are slightly smaller than other tips, so a Large Ortofon would be somewhere in between medium to large.

But the good thing about Ortofon tip is, give it sometimes and it will fit nicely into your ears.

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Get the large size Ortofon.

Their tips sizes are slightly smaller than other tips, so a Large Ortofon would be somewhere in between medium to large.

But the good thing about Ortofon tip is, give it sometimes and it will fit nicely into your ears.

Thank you! I was going to get the medium but I didn't know ortofons ran small. Saved me $8 or however much they cost. Looks like headfi never sleeps haha

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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


ASG2, anything very strong to numb your hearing...a Chilean maybe. SD3 some very rare German frozen wine, and for the 3003, maybe some Alscace wine to remind the lack of coherence of this part of France, much fought over with the German.

 

Germany is more famous for its top world Rieslings, really one of the best out there, there are some wineries where you must place your order a few years in advance to collect your wine, so rare and excellent this is tongue_smile.gif

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So in the case of ASG-2's sound signature, do you recommend a pure copper-based custom cable, a copper with silver plated cable or a silver+gold custom cable? Since ASG-2 leans more on the mid-centric/bassy side, it would go better with silver or silver+gold cable for improved clarity/brightness than copper cable? This question goes out to anyone who has a recommendation.

 

EDIT: Also I read that many comparison between ASG-2 versus 1plus2 are made based on using ASG-2's cheap stock cable whereas 1plus2 is using Tralucent's silver/silver+gold (not uber) cable with 1plus2 having better clarity, imaging and 3D soundstage. What if we pit ASG-2 using similar high-end silver+gold cable against 1plus2? Would it not close the gap in that area of sound signature and still maintain ASG-2's advantage of richer midrange for vocals?

 

i did that for another IEM i have and the short answer is NO. Tralucent cable can help great deal but this will not transform IEM into 1+2, or at least i did not find this to be the case.

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i did that for another IEM i have and the short answer is NO. Tralucent cable can help great deal but this will not transform IEM into 1+2, or at least i did not find this to be the case.

I do not mean to transform it into 1plus2 since we all know that is impossible (it is like asking a donkey to become a horse). The internal components and tuning are all different. What I am saying is to improve ASG-2's clarity and soundstage with a good silver+gold cable since it is better than 1plus2 on its midrange and bass but is muddier in clarity. The use of a better cable will at least push up its sound quality to another tier given that its stock cable is of mediocre quality, assuming everthing else like the DAC and Amp remains constant in the equation.
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