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I think eke was referring to their Gold cable and not the uber cable. The uber cable is noticeably more expensive than the gold.

 

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I tried the stock ASG-2 cable ($40?), Moon Audio Silver Dragon ($175), Chris_Himself pure silver ($200), and the silvergold uber cable ($1300?).

 

I actually liked Chris_Himself's pure silver cable best. But the sulvergold cable I tried didn't look like the one that eke tried... so it might have been the older version which he didn't like (and I didn't like it either). It would be interesting to try the updated version, which eke seems to love. 

 

Sorry my mistake. I think I got confused by kuuketsuki's earlier post about the silvergold uber cable which costs $1300? I did a quick check on Musica Acoustics website on the 1plus2 and there are supposedly 3 types of cables - SILVER, GOLD and UBER. The silver cable comes default with the IEM and the gold cable costs 200 USD more than the silver with the IEM. You can also buy the gold cable separately for 795 USD (ouch) and you need to contact them for the uber cable's price (1300 USD? uber ouch). If you are going to buy the IEM, get the gold cable. Definitely not worth buying the gold cable on its own. I also heard from somewhere that the uber cable is not very flexible (brittle) and is not really suited for mobile outdoor use? Is the gold cable pure OCC gold throughout or is it an OCC silver electroplated with gold (or like those silver with 1% amalgamated gold)? If it is not pure gold, I wonder if other aftermarket cables like the Whiplash TWag v2 gold gives a similar performance as the Tralucent gold cable.

post #1637 of 6782
The tralucent gold is not pure gold- gold is significantly less conductive than silver or copper, and a gold cable wouldn't sound very good. The differences between most cables is pretty subtle anyway, so the differences between the whiplash gold and tralucent gold will be there, but you'll have to really listen for them. The über cable is supposed to be next level though and it's supposed to actually give an uber improvement..$1300 worth, I don't know
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The tralucent gold is not pure gold- gold is significantly less conductive than silver or copper, and a gold cable wouldn't sound very good. The differences between most cables is pretty subtle anyway, so the differences between the whiplash gold and tralucent gold will be there, but you'll have to really listen for them. The über cable is supposed to be next level though and it's supposed to actually give an uber improvement..$1300 worth, I don't know

Imo, cables should be the VERY last thing you look at when completing your set up. They're like a single spray of cologne after dressing up for the night out. They also represent the highest level of diminishing returns in the audio world, and some don't even give returns on your investment.

With more expensive cables, I think you're paying for more the materials and workmanship than the sound. Not to say there isn't a difference, but it won't make an iem you don't like much more appealing.

Jm2c
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Imo, cables should be the VERY last thing you look at when completing your set up. They're like a single spray of cologne after dressing up for the night out. They also represent the highest level of diminishing returns in the audio world, and some don't even give returns on your investment.

With more expensive cables, I think you're paying for more the materials and workmanship than the sound. Not to say there isn't a difference, but it won't make an iem you don't like much more appealing.

Jm2c

 

very much disagree. while components or IEMs take priority a crappy cable can remove some magic from what you will be hearing. a good cable will NOT turn a crappy player or IEM into super performer BUT it can help excellent DAP and IEM to show you what it is capable of.

 

i have one examply by hand using stock silver cable from Tralucent on other IEM and it shows what good cable is all about. same silver cable from IEM is crap and Tralucent cable shows it very well across entire frequency range.

 

call me crazy but i am cable believer since my high-end journey teached me to appreciate cables (my ears are a proof to my statement).

post #1640 of 6782
I am still awaiting my order from Null Audio. I ordered a Lune MK3 cable. Should improve the sound further.
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Cables are like burn-in. The differences are there, and measurable. To what extent they are audible is another story. That said they are like burn-in because where is the talk of expensive cables making the sound worse? There's all the talk of synergy, which I know can get important to some degree, but with cables, it's never worse, only the same or better. I want to hear someone say that their expensive ass cable has terrible synergy with their IEMs or rig and make it sound worse.
post #1642 of 6782
I've tried a few different cables and they really do change the sound noticeably. I'm excited to hear the lune cable as it has gotten great reviews overall.
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very much disagree.

 

Of course you do rolleyes.gif

 

 

 

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very much disagree. while components or IEMs take priority a crappy cable can remove some magic from what you will be hearing. a good cable will NOT turn a crappy player or IEM into super performer BUT it can help excellent DAP and IEM to show you what it is capable of.

 

i have one examply by hand using stock silver cable from Tralucent on other IEM and it shows what good cable is all about. same silver cable from IEM is crap and Tralucent cable shows it very well across entire frequency range.

 

call me crazy but i am cable believer since my high-end journey teached me to appreciate cables (my ears are a proof to my statement).

 

 

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post


Imo, cables should be the VERY last thing you look at when completing your set up. They're like a single spray of cologne after dressing up for the night out. They also represent the highest level of diminishing returns in the audio world, and some don't even give returns on your investment.

With more expensive cables, I think you're paying for more the materials and workmanship than the sound. Not to say there isn't a difference, but it won't make an iem you don't like much more appealing.

Jm2c

 

 

It seems like we're more or less saying the same thing, Ginny. I still hold firm that cables are the lowest-return investment an audiophile can make.

 

 

 

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Cables are like burn-in. The differences are there, and measurable. To what extent they are audible is another story. That said they are like burn-in because where is the talk of expensive cables making the sound worse? There's all the talk of synergy, which I know can get important to some degree, but with cables, it's never worse, only the same or better. I want to hear someone say that their expensive ass cable has terrible synergy with their IEMs or rig and make it sound worse.

 

 

You know, I'm at a point where all I hear are differences, not improvements. I really like the silver/gold cable, but I don't think it's "better" than the stock westone style cable. What it does is snip certain parts of the ASG-2's signature to make them line up more evenly. It's not that it improves resolution, or increases dynamic range or anything like that. It just slightly alters the sound in a way that I find appealing...on some days. On other days I prefer how the stock cable sounds. Does that make the stock cable "better" than the silver/gold?
 
What I think I'm hearing is how the different materials interact with the signature. For instance, I tried the BTG audio copper cable on the ASG-2 and heard zero difference whatsoever. Same goes for a few other cables I've tried. I could buy a $100 amp that may affect the sound in the same way that the silver/gold cable can. It's just up to the consumer to decide what is best for him/her.
post #1644 of 6782

Seems like Null Audio is making a similar hybrid IEM called the Elpis 3 also with bass port tuning feature at a lower price point just like ASG-2.

 

"26/06/2013: We are making our best efforts in fulfilling the current Elpis orders. In the meantime, we are also looking to develop the new triple driver hybrid CIEM, tentatively named Elpis 3. The preliminary design involves two balanced armature and single 10mm dynamic bass driver with 4 step tunable bass port. We would like to invite our customers to help us in fine tuning the Elpis 3, what kind of sound signature are you most looking forward to? 

You may leave your comments on our facebook, email us at sales@null-audio.com or call us directly. We will select the 5 best suggestions and award winners with amazing intro price on the Elpis 3 once it is released."

post #1645 of 6782
That sounds more like the 1P2, right down to the 10 mm bass driver/2 BA set up. G-2 is a full range dynamic driver
post #1646 of 6782

have a demo of ASG-2 being sent out already. I hope it doesn't get charged for customs/duty taxes.

post #1647 of 6782
Eke, in agreement, sometimes reading glasses do help :-D
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have a demo of ASG-2 being sent out already. I hope it doesn't get charged for customs/duty taxes.
Who offers demo units?! :O
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have a demo of ASG-2 being sent out already. I hope it doesn't get charged for customs/duty taxes.

 

Congrats. Looking forward to your thoughts.

 

 

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Eke, in agreement, sometimes reading glasses do help :-D

 

 

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post #1650 of 6782
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

Congrats. Looking forward to your thoughts.

 

 

And yeah, can't wait to compare them against the FXZ200. Hoping for improvements treble and isolation. Bass has to be equally deep and impactful. Or else, I really don't want to spend $550 on this.

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Who offers demo units?! :O

Email Aurisonics. In my case, Andy was helping me out with the demo units.

 

On the side note, I guess I can get a refund on taxes/duties since I'm guaranteed to return them. It's just adding the hassle.

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