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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

You'll get to hear the ASG-2 in a few weeks, that is if you and James can find time to meet. I'll be sending him my pair before I go to Jamaica on the 28th.

 

Nooooooo, don't force me to meet that guy again, he made me all woozy with his babbling about vinyl, analog sound and such. wink.gif

 
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

Fair Warning- make sure james444 doesn't just make you listen to his DAP full of Van Halen. He's a huge 80's hard rock guy and tries to make everyone listen to VH this and VH that.

 

But VH sounds soooo.........  analog! very_evil_smiley.gif

post #1592 of 6720
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

 

Nooooooo, don't force me to meet that guy again, he made me all woozy with his babbling about vinyl, analog sound and such. wink.gif

 

But VH sounds soooo.........  analog! very_evil_smiley.gif

 

ahrrrr... you......... vinyl with you and analogue into your ears !!! very_evil_smiley.giftongue.gif


Edited by Gintaras - 7/16/13 at 3:55am
post #1593 of 6720
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

Fair Warning- make sure james444 doesn't just make you listen to his DAP full of Van Halen. He's a huge 80's hard rock guy and tries to make everyone listen to VH this and VH that. Same with the sparrow guy. He should change his name from music_4321 to evh_5150 already.

 

Believe me, I have tried changing it to to evh_5150 several times — last time I tried (back in September 2012) I was told (by Jude) that Head-Fi is no longer allowing names / handles that might hint at having very poor music taste (this, it seems, is very bad for business). I was told that changing my name to to evh_5150 would have pretty serious consequences in the credibility department.

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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


I tried large comply tips and couldn't achieve a seal on the 1Plus2. With the TS200 tips I was able to get a seal but it did change the sound. This was also for the Kaede. I've never had an experience with Comply tips that was without determent to the sound in some sort of way. With the 1Plus2s I found it to take away from the treble (lost clarity and focus). The sound staging also took a noticeable hit taking away from its accuracy and overall size. Made it sound more congested. I think bass also increased slightly. After doing side by side comparisons I won't be using complys again. I had similar results on the Kaede which they actually recommend these comply tips for lol.

There are ears, then there are Lee730 EARS!!!! 

post #1595 of 6720
@James444

James, i got Metrum Octave DAC and Audiophilleo2 with Pure Power unit, spinning Buddy Guy i attest this is SOOOOO ANALOGUE SOUNDING ALMOST LIKE VINYL :-P

:-D
post #1596 of 6720
Doesn't the treble boost maybe too much for sibilance sensitive folks? You know it's boosted in the treble if an in-ear 'sparkles' artificially. I prefer the linear treble that makes it more comfortable listening music around 90dB and higher, and I like my baby loud.

At first you want less bass and more treble, but the louder it goes the more you need bass and less treble.
Edited by Nestroit - 7/16/13 at 8:51am
post #1597 of 6720
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Nestroit View Post

Doesn't the treble boost maybe too much for sibilance sensitive folks? You know it's boosted in the treble if an in-ear 'sparkles' artificially. I prefer the linear treble that makes it more comfortable listening music around 90dB and higher, and I like my baby loud.

Dude. Really?
post #1598 of 6720
Denon and ultimate ears treble is not for everybody and the asg-2 is treble boosted, just asking. The w4 sparkles because its heavily boosted around 10khz.
post #1599 of 6720
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Nestroit View Post

Denon and ultimate ears treble is not for everybody and the asg-2 is treble boosted, just asking. The w4 sparkles because its heavily boosted around 10khz.

 

I'm not sure where the question is.

 

Where have you read that the asg-2's treble is anything like those? The treble is smooth and relatively linear, with the exception of a small area at 8khz that may emphasize (not create) sibilance if the recording is already mastered hot.

 

Compared to your SD3 (and the only reason you're thread-crapping), of course it's treble boosted. Here's how I hear the SD3's FR:

 

post #1600 of 6720
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

Hmm so even with the ports closed, you are still EQing the bass down when listening to metal? Deary me. The bass sounds so frightening :O
But besides this "problem" (I know it's not really a problem but my English is too broken right now to find the proper word) they do very well with this genre, right? Black Metal shouldn't be a problem, but what about stoner or sludge?

I've now opened the ports slightly and like the sound better that way, but I did have those EQ settings in place while the ports were closed, yes. The bass is actually pretty great here, I think it's just a matter of tonal balance. Without EQ, Jose James, Steely Dan, Nine Inch Nails, anything with bass and a beat sounds spectacular, it's only a small number of guitar-driven albums I've run into the issue on. I listened to an older Ulcerate album last night (first time listening to them, really good btw), and found the guitar sound cleaned up nicely with EQ in place. I haven't listened to much stoner or sludge metal, but I'll throw on some EHG and Kyuss or something and let ya know wink.gif

Seriously though, these truly do sound excellent, it's only on a small number of tracks that I find the EQ settings to make a difference.
post #1601 of 6720
Until you hear treble done right then most people go around thinking they cannot take treble. The issue is perpetuated by manufacturers tuning for bass bias particularly at low or mid budget range because that is what most consumers understandably go for.

I was there myself until going up the food chain and demoing other kit. Once you hear treble properly it is like rediscovering your entire music collection. And once opinion is adjusted you find people are less hyperbolic with describing proper treble. Read the reviews composed by experienced ears against those who are new converts and you see.
post #1602 of 6720
LFC, very much like that, problem is thinned trebles sound harsh and trashy... good percussions sound richly onstage, so i can see the point when someone complains about harsh trebles because that means trebles are thinned.
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Originally Posted by LFC_SL View Post

Until you hear treble done right then most people go around thinking they cannot take treble. The issue is perpetuated by manufacturers tuning for bass bias particularly at low or mid budget range because that is what most consumers understandably go for.

I was there myself until going up the food chain and demoing other kit. Once you hear treble properly it is like rediscovering your entire music collection. And once opinion is adjusted you find people are less hyperbolic with describing proper treble. Read the reviews composed by experienced ears against those who are new converts and you see.

 

I feel the same way about bass. Most audiophiles want as little to do with it as possible. Properly done bass is a revelation.

post #1604 of 6720
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

Here's how I hear the SD3's FR:



Then you have proven my point.
Edited by Nestroit - 7/16/13 at 10:51am
post #1605 of 6720
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Originally Posted by Nestroit View Post

Then you have proven my point.

If your point was that the ASG-2 is treble "boosted" then it's only been "proven" in a relative manner. But it seems like your point is really that some people don't like treble or are medically sensitive, which isn't really a point. Also, to say that "boosted" treble absolutely creates sibilance is not just not very correct at all.

Just an FYI, bass loudness is harder to judge than treble or midrange loudness and you're likely damaging your hearing, even assuming you actually measured the output that you listen to at 90db.
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