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I've done uberloads of googling on the momentums and amperior headphone. I'm not totally impressed with the Sennheiser amperior headphones, and since I'm returning my grado headphones, and possibly my amperior headphones, I could have enough money to get a refurbished pair of sennheiser momentum headphones. Would anyone say that the Momentum headphones are good for extreme metal? I'd like some first hand words on if these headphones would be best for metal. They seem like my only option as of now because I don't want the exaggerated bass of the V-Moda, I don't want the discomfort and overly lively sound of the amperior, and I don't think the K550 would be good for me, I've seen a lot of posts saying it isn't good for metal or fast rock. 


Edited by Hifi Man - 6/5/13 at 3:57pm
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I briefly tried the Momentum from a seller on Craigslist and had a small demo of a friends Amperior. I only listened to them briefly for about 10 minutes, but here are my thoughts. I think the Momentum is more laid back and smoother then the Amperoir. The Momentums did come across to have a slight boost in the bass department, but it seemed to keep it's place and didn't get very out of hand. I'm not a big metal guy, but I did listen to Avenged Sevenfold's "An Epic of Time Wasted" on the Momentum but not on the Amperior.

 

The good when listening to Avenged Sevenfold: The bass was impactful and the vocals were clean with little sibilance. Not a lot of fatigue.

 

The bad when listening to Avenged Sevenfold: It may have been too relaxing, I felt treble and drums needed a bit of energy and sparkle, guitars and drums seemed a bit cramped because of small soundstage, it didn't have a lot of air between the instruments, and the bass was a bit slow.

 

Keep in mind I only listened to them shortly, but those are my thoughts and I hope I helped you!


Edited by JustinBieber - 6/5/13 at 8:16pm
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I liked the Amperiors, going from the HD-25 I II to the amperior is a nice step on sound quality to my ears. It is more forward sounding and bass response is tighter. 

 

From what i read in your OP, seems like they are not your cup of tea. I know some guys who have switched from the amperior to momentum and liked it. 

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Have both, sound is smoother with the Momentum's, however earpad size can be an issue with them, if you have large ears.
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I guess I'm also wondering if there's more decent options for portable headphones than the Momentum for me. If anyone who's really into metal has a decent recommendation of a portable headphone that they actually use that would be helpful. I kind of don't want to spend the extra money on the momentums just to try them. I really have no way of trying them other than ordering them. So I think I'd like to try a less expensive portable headphone. Anyone have any recommendations?


Edited by Hifi Man - 6/6/13 at 7:52am
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The best can I've heard with metal is the Audio-Technica ES10. They have really fast, punchy impactful bass while being warm and crispy overall. Detail and separation are top notch. I would look into those if I were you.
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The best can I've heard with metal is the Audio-Technica ES10. They have really fast, punchy impactful bass while being warm and crispy overall. Detail and separation are top notch. I would look into those if I were you.

They probably would be good, but they're much more expensive then what I payed for the Sennheiser Amperior (175). I mainly like to get refurbished headphones whenever possible because I can usually save a lot of money that way.

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I've done uberloads of googling on the momentums and amperior headphone. I'm not totally impressed with the Sennheiser amperior headphones, and since I'm returning my grado headphones, and possibly my amperior headphones, I could have enough money to get a refurbished pair of sennheiser momentum headphones. Would anyone say that the Momentum headphones are good for extreme metal? I'd like some first hand words on if these headphones would be best for metal. They seem like my only option as of now because I don't want the exaggerated bass of the V-Moda, I don't want the discomfort and overly lively sound of the amperior, and I don't think the K550 would be good for me, I've seen a lot of posts saying it isn't good for metal or fast rock. 

The Momentum is warmer and slower than the Amperior with a very punchy bass. I like the signature a lot and I'm definitely not a warm kinda guy (prefer brighter cans). I think you'll want something more aggressive. The K550 does sound like something that would work for you and would recommend you try them. It's far more closer to neutral and is a relatively fast can. You need to try them, though, because they are a very large headphone and a lot of people report that they can't get a good seal over their ears which then leads to bad sound. I'm surprised you aren't looking at Grados. Although I have not heard them yet (waiting for my SR325is to come on Friday), they are said to have a very agressive sound with very fast decay which makes them perfect for metal.

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The Momentum is warmer and slower than the Amperior with a very punchy bass. I like the signature a lot and I'm definitely not a warm kinda guy (prefer brighter cans). I think you'll want something more aggressive. The K550 does sound like something that would work for you and would recommend you try them. It's far more closer to neutral and is a relatively fast can. You need to try them, though, because they are a very large headphone and a lot of people report that they can't get a good seal over their ears which then leads to bad sound. I'm surprised you aren't looking at Grados. Although I have not heard them yet (waiting for my SR325is to come on Friday), they are said to have a very agressive sound with very fast decay which makes them perfect for metal.

I tried the Grado sr80i headphones and I plan on returning them soon. Compared to my Sennheiser HD 558 and AKG K240 the sound just isn't as rich. The only redeeming quality is they have such a bright treble response. I prefer a little low end when I listen to metal. I don't think the sound is good for melting away in the music. The grados did have good detailing though compared to my Sennheiser Hd 558 though. I could hear instruments a bit sharper on the Grados. I would like it if there was a headphone with sharp sound like the grados but a more rich sound like the Sennheiser HD 558. Anyways, good bye grados, hello 100 extra dollars.

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I tried the Grado sr80i headphones and I plan on returning them soon. Compared to my Sennheiser HD 558 and AKG K240 the sound just isn't as rich. The only redeeming quality is they have such a bright treble response. I prefer a little low end when I listen to metal. I don't think the sound is good for melting away in the music. The grados did have good detailing though compared to my Sennheiser Hd 558 though. I could hear instruments a bit sharper on the Grados. I would like it if there was a headphone with sharp sound like the grados but a more rich sound like the Sennheiser HD 558. Anyways, good bye grados, hello 100 extra dollars.

hehe I don't really think "melting away" when I'm listening to thrash metal or speed metal. Maybe the warmer Momentum is the way to go for you. I just don't think it fits that genre.

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They probably would be good, but they're much more expensive then what I payed for the Sennheiser Amperior (175). I mainly like to get refurbished headphones whenever possible because I can usually save a lot of money that way.

I hear ya, I usually get used gear. I think I saw an ES10 recently on the FS thread going for $250 which is one of them better deals out there.

 

I wouldn't recommend the Momentum for metal though. Grados may be a good option if you don't mind that they won't isolate at all, being that they're open.

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hehe I don't really think "melting away" when I'm listening to thrash metal or speed metal. Maybe the warmer Momentum is the way to go for you. I just don't think it fits that genre.

 

 

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I hear ya, I usually get used gear. I think I saw an ES10 recently on the FS thread going for $250 which is one of them better deals out there.

 

I wouldn't recommend the Momentum for metal though. Grados may be a good option if you don't mind that they won't isolate at all, being that they're open.

 

So I'm seeing two nos for the momentums. I think that's enough to make me bias towards them. However the grado headphones didn't work for me. I prefer a richer sound with my music. I'm mainly looking for portable headphones btw. 

 

Is the amperior as good as it gets in portable audio for under 250?


Edited by Hifi Man - 6/6/13 at 10:35am
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You could try try the M-80 but that has a smoother treble. Still has plenty of energy. The ES10 again is an overall upgrade and slams hard - I'm not even a big metal-head but I couldn't stop listening to Metallica on them. If you could cough up a bit more cash and find a good deal, the Yamaha PRO 500 sounds amazing with everything I throw at it. Very natural timbre, very refined-sounding with plenty of power on the low end while still remaining balanced and detailed throughout the spectrum. The only thing is the 500 is slightly on the heavy side.

 

Two other cans to consider: Sony MDR-1R and the M-100. I would read up on those. I had the Sonys and while they are pretty warm, they have good PRaT and are balanced. Mids are pretty forward though, it is a bit fatiguing at higher volumes. The M-100 has bigger bass, sparkly treble and laidback mids.

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