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post #1 of 20
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This could get very interesting. 

 

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/17/wolfson-wm5110-audio-chip/

post #2 of 20
I just saw this article, and thought to myself, very very cool, but probably going to be an after thought to most consumers.

I'm just trying to find a situation where I'd be able to appreciate a 24/192 track playing, on my phone.

From my understanding, don't people, including those who are active on this forum, expect to take a bit of a hit on SQ while out and about? I would think that most would keep their critical listening sessions at home, in a quiet/controlled environment. I know I would.

Then again, I could be totally wrong about all this.
post #3 of 20
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There are times when I'd like to fire up a nice pair of iem's on my phone or dap and get the best quality. I mean, why have the best sound you can get? Just look at the excitement generated over the upcoming fiio device. I'd like to own the fiio x3, but if I could have 24/192 bit perfect and a wolfson dac on my phone, I think that I'd be set. biggrin.gif

post #4 of 20
Agreed. I don't like to be carrying around more devices then necessary. Heck, having my phone and Nexus 7 in my bag seems like too much at times.

Bit of a side question, at what price point/quality level of equipment, in this case IEMs, custom or universal, do you think one would need to even do 24/196 files justice?
post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

There are times when I'd like to fire up a nice pair of iem's on my phone or dap and get the best quality. I mean, why have the best sound you can get? Just look at the excitement generated over the upcoming fiio device. I'd like to own the fiio x3, but if I could have 24/192 bit perfect and a wolfson dac on my phone, I think that I'd be set. biggrin.gif

How many albums do you expect to fit on your phone's storage in 24/192? Seems a bit silly to me.

post #6 of 20
An interesting idea. Have a 'phone that also doubles as a hi-fi music player. Storage might not be a problem if you can stream hi-res content from somewhere. It will need the mother of all batteries to keep going though and cost more than an iPhone.
post #7 of 20

too bad it's going to be samsung, i love the HTC devices more.

but it makes sans, HTC is on the verge of bankruptcy and sansung sells goes up every year.

well can't wait to see the new device :)

post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by Sefelt103 View Post

An interesting idea. Have a 'phone that also doubles as a hi-fi music player. Storage might not be a problem if you can stream hi-res content from somewhere. It will need the mother of all batteries to keep going though and cost more than an iPhone.

What kind of bandwidth might you need for high-res files? Also, at least in North America, the excessive cost of most cellular data plans could be a hassle if one is away from a wifi zone. I suspect you are right about the batteries draining quickly, too.

post #9 of 20

A few things in relation to this:

 

Android at the present time is limited to 16-bit sound, so while this might be 24-bit capable that doesn't necessarily mean it will output 24-bit sound from an Android device. There are ways to circumvent this of course and Samsung could change the audio engine to accommodate it, but whether they will or not isn't really known at this point AFAIK.

 

Furthermore, Samsung(/whoever) could still mess up the implementation of the DAC. It wouldn't be the first time they've done that, and they're far from the only manufacturer guilty of that. 

 

...and that's before you even get to the question of whether there is really any point to 24-bit sound in the first place...

 

 

In relation to storage aspects/streaming that isn't a particular problem, use a Seagate Wireless Plus and you have a terrabyte of storage available without needing to ever use cellular data, to mention nothing of USB OTG and external storage directly connected to the phone.

 

Regards the question of whether there is any point given the sorts of use-case scenarios people have for their smartphone listening: quite a few of us here use USB DAC/amps with our Android smartphones more in the sense of transportable (rather than portable) rigs and it can make sense for some of us. I often spend my lunchtimes at worked engrossed in critical listening, so if I thought there were any point in 24-bit sound in the first place it would make sense for me and my use.


Edited by NZtechfreak - 5/18/13 at 4:05am
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

 

...and that's before you even get to the question of whether there is really any point to 24-bit sound in the first place...

 

 

In relation to storage aspects/streaming that isn't a particular problem, use a Seagate Wireless Plus and you have a terrabyte of storage available without needing to ever use cellular data, to mention nothing of USB OTG and external storage directly connected to the phone.

I am certainly one that has no interest in 24/96 or 24/192 or what have you high res files. 16/44.1 is just fine for me.

 

How well do those wifi hard drives work, anyways? What kind of range and battery life do they have? 

post #11 of 20

Range is pretty good, not actually tested range that much, I tend to have them on the desk besides me (or in the car) when in use. Battery life varies, in the order of 5-7 hours (despite the manufacturers claims of 10 hour battery life). In terms of how well they work: extremely well when paired with the right app. I use Bubble UPnP on my Android devices and its great.


Edited by NZtechfreak - 5/18/13 at 4:08am
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

Range is pretty good, not actually tested range that much, I tend to have them on the desk besides me (or in the car) when in use. Battery life varies, in the order of 5-7 hours (despite the manufacturers claims of 10 hour battery life). In terms of how well they work: extremely well when paired with the right app. I use Bubble UPnP on my Android devices and its great.

I like the idea, especially with so many phones and tablets that don't have card slots these days.

post #13 of 20
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I like the idea, especially with so many phones and tablets that don't have card slots these days.

 

Yeah, that was the reason I got one last year in the first place. Had an iPhone 4S and the crippled internal storage made it fairly useless to me as a music player. Used 8-Player with it on the iPhone, played FLAC files, sorted. Didn't find a DLNA/UPnP app on iOS as polished as Bubble on Android in my six weeks or so inside the reality distortion field.

post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

How many albums do you expect to fit on your phone's storage in 24/192? Seems a bit silly to me.

 

Micro SD card slot. wink.gif

post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by Sefelt103 View Post

An interesting idea. Have a 'phone that also doubles as a hi-fi music player. Storage might not be a problem if you can stream hi-res content from somewhere. It will need the mother of all batteries to keep going though and cost more than an iPhone.

 

Rechargeable case is not very expensive. And I spend most of my day in the car anyway where I have access to charging. I guess it depends on your circumstance. 

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