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post #556 of 1488
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Too bad most if not all alternatives look bad

post #557 of 1488

Choo choo, here comes the late train!

 

I used to really hate beats because they were genuinely pieces of muddy bass-boosted crap but recently they've upped their game - funnily enough, it happened after the monster/beats split, and monster have also upped their game - so now all I can say is 'I don't like the build quality and I prefer their alternatives.' 

 

Also, I do love the aesthetics of some of the alternatives.

post #558 of 1488
This is weird - like parallel threads running at the same time - there's another thread very similarly named to this one on the go, but anyway, here's my take on beats (and a re-post from parallel thread).

I agree with guy in below viddy and he sums up my views on the Studio 2.0 nicely.


I like beats, I don't mind turtles, but the new Studio 2.0's inc. the wireless type are excellent IMO.

And the mixr beats are one darn good DJ can for sure smily_headphones1.gif




Edited by cb3723 - 5/11/14 at 1:41pm
post #559 of 1488
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Originally Posted by metal571 View Post

I think that's a lot more of a trend than anything else. Of course they use near field monitors. Headphones are only for referencing, and the Studios are pretty flat but don't extend that well in the bass. There's no point in testing on them, there are other better headphones that do extend but are also flat anyway.

A popular trend at that - Apple have just offered dr $3.2 billion USD - now that's something I wouldn't take offence to if I were dre tongue.gif

http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2014/05/09/apples-3-2b-beats-buy-would-make-dre-raps-richest-man/
post #560 of 1488
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


A popular trend at that - Apple have just offered dr $3.2 billion USD - now that's something I wouldn't take offence to if I were dre tongue.gif

http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2014/05/09/apples-3-2b-beats-buy-would-make-dre-raps-richest-man/

Wait...Dre actually owns Beats by Dr. Dre? I always thought he was just a figure head.

post #561 of 1488
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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post

Then mastering engineerings aren't doing their jobs. Their job is make their music sound good on a wide variety of systems. Considering how popular Beats are, it's smart to atleast check if the music sounds good on Beats headphones. I'm not saying it should be used for mastering or mixing, but atleast check the final mastering on it.
Why would they master specifically for a popular headphone, when they can do so on neutral equipment and make it sound good on all equipment? Mixing and mastering is about making a recording sound good, not to specifically make it sound good for users of an extremely coloured, popular headphone. Beats users expect huge bass, so the frequency response will add that bass... the recording engineers don't need to check if a recording has heavy bass on Beats as long as the bass is a bit emphasized on a neutral headphone. Recordings are made to sound good on their own, if the equipment colours the sound it is the users preference... not anything for audio engineers to be concerned about.

Edit: Sorry if some of this doesn't make a whole lot of sense, I've been drinking a bit tongue.gif.
Edited by ToddTheMetalGod - 5/11/14 at 6:16pm
post #562 of 1488
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Why would they master specifically for a popular headphone, when they can do so on neutral equipment and make it sound good on all equipment? Mixing and mastering is about making a recording sound good, not to specifically make it sound good for users of an extremely coloured, popular headphone. Beats users expect huge bass, so the frequency response will add that bass... the recording engineers don't need to check if a recording has heavy bass on Beats as long as the bass is a bit emphasized on a neutral headphone. Recordings are made to sound good on their own, if the equipment colours the sound it is the users preference... not anything for audio engineers to be concerned about.

Edit: Sorry if some of this doesn't make a whole lot of sense, I've been drinking a bit tongue.gif.

It's all about how the future of how music us expected to be delivered - direct streamed into the next generation of headphones from companies like streamz (http://www.streamzmedia.com) and Apple want huge market share now in readiness for this.

All the debate and dated misconceptions regarding beats cans as heavy bass and bandwagon haters is irrelevant - Apple want in on headphone brand that dwarfs everything else in market share for their domestic market and around the world (I think beats have something like a 60% of US headcan market share alone) and they ain't going to get that by taking on beats head to head, and Apple know this.
post #563 of 1488

Beats are more than enough to make iTunes' 128 kbps AAC music sound impressive to an average iPhone user, and they definitely blow Apple's earbuds or EarPods out of the water.

 

Since Beats already works so closely with Apple's personal music players, it only makes sense from a business standpoint.

post #564 of 1488

Apple buying beats, would make Dre a very very rich man. It would be dumb to not take Apple's offer.

 

If Apple does end up buying beats, believe that the Beats Audio Sticker will be on every product. 

post #565 of 1488
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Originally Posted by GeneraI View Post
 

Apple buying beats, would make Dre a very very rich man. It would be dumb to not take Apple's offer.

 

If Apple does end up buying beats, believe that the Beats Audio Sticker will be on every product. 

If that happens, I'm never setting foot in an Apple store ever again. Why won't they just take proper headphone brands like Sennheiser or AKG? Right now, they're buying a fashion brand with overpaid CEOs and an army of POS "artists" who endorse them.

If it's really only because of their streaming service, my biggest hope is that they never emblazon that logo onto any iPhone in the future.

post #566 of 1488
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Originally Posted by GeneraI View Post
 

Apple buying beats, would make Dre a very very rich man. It would be dumb to not take Apple's offer.

 

If Apple does end up buying beats, believe that the Beats Audio Sticker will be on every product. 

 

Apple never puts any sticker on their Macs - no Intel inside, Nvidia, ATi, whatever sticker mania is usually on PCs - so you can chill, there won't be a beats sticker - over Jonny Ive's dead body.

post #567 of 1488
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

If that happens, I'm never setting foot in an Apple store ever again. Why won't they just take proper headphone brands like Sennheiser or AKG? Right now, they're buying a fashion brand with overpaid CEOs and an army of POS "artists" who endorse them.

If it's really only because of their streaming service, my biggest hope is that they never emblazon that logo onto any iPhone in the future.

 

Yep, for that price they might have been able to buy Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic, Ultrasone, German Maestro together (and these are just the german manufacturers) - but since all these companies are privately owned, they might simply not be for sale. And somehow I doubt it's about the headphones. Or they just took a look at the Apple shop sales and saw how much money beats is raking in - so maybe that's something to think about. Simply grow revenue/profits and make Wall Street happy. and maybe I am totally wrong.

post #568 of 1488
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Originally Posted by Koolpep View Post
 

 

Apple never puts any sticker on their Macs - no Intel inside, Nvidia, ATi, whatever sticker mania is usually on PCs - so you can chill, there won't be a beats sticker - over Jonny Ive's dead body.

Hopefully that will be the same for iPhones and iPads. I wouldn't want to see that logo defiling the Apple name. 

And you're right -- over Jonny Ive's dead body.

:beerchug:

post #569 of 1488
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Originally Posted by Koolpep View Post
 

 

Apple never puts any sticker on their Macs - no Intel inside, Nvidia, ATi, whatever sticker mania is usually on PCs - so you can chill, there won't be a beats sticker - over Jonny Ive's dead body.

I was about to say the same thing. Stickers feel cheap, and we all know that the word 'cheap' is not in Apple's vocabulary.

post #570 of 1488

It's for shallow people who care about what other people think of them and what they are wearing which phone they are using etc etc

 

There are a lot of materialistic people these days and Dre just cashed in on that he turned a headphone in to a fashion accessory via getting famous people to wear them and the sheep lapped it up.

 

It's all driven by the rap / gangsta bling materialistic subculture many people seem to aspire to and love these days.


Edited by c64 - 5/13/14 at 1:27pm
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