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post #346 of 642
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Originally Posted by inthere View Post

Just tried the Studios without them plugged into anything. No hiss. What can cause hiss when it's not even plugged in? Bad cable?

Go some where more noisy, like a living room with a TV on, and test there. That should in theory simulate the "BestBuy/AppleStore" environment

post #347 of 642

Went outside where there's a busy two way street. Heard cars passing by but that's just noise and sounds nothing like hiss. 

 

I've heard loud, nasty distorted hissy amps in stores before, but that wouldn't explain hiss when a pair of cans are not even hooked up.

 

Very puzzling.

post #348 of 642

I didn't hear any hiss , when I demoed the headphones.

Nor did I hear bloated bass.

post #349 of 642
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Originally Posted by inthere View Post

Just tried the Studios without them plugged into anything. No hiss. What can cause hiss when it's not even plugged in? Bad cable?

No. The crappy internal amplifier. I'm guessing it's class C amp.

post #350 of 642
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Originally Posted by kimvictor View Post

No. The crappy internal amplifier. I'm guessing it's class C amp.

  

So the internal amp of the headphones had gone bad in the store?

post #351 of 642
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Originally Posted by inthere View Post

  

So the internal amp of the headphones had gone bad in the store?

No. I'm saying that internal amp is crap, and leads to double amping. Although double amping is fine with certain really clean outputs, amp in beats totally degrades the sound. High distortion and lacking extension are not good signs of a audiophile headphone.

post #352 of 642

  Completely agree with the double amping part, last night I was advising a friend against double amping his Beats when we were testing a new headphone amp prototype. 

 

 You shouldn't put Beats on a headphone amp, period. 

 

 But that doesn't explain why the crappy internal amp in my Beats is not hissing while the pair you heard had hiss. Maybe one pair had a defective internal amp and the other didn't.

post #353 of 642
Uhh...the hiss is inherent with the NC. If you can't hear it, it might not be working correctly...
post #354 of 642
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Originally Posted by ev13wt View Post

^^ So, while "producing" you never noticed how they hiss all the time without music on? Of course the hiss is drowned out by playing music, but I think it's also part of the fatigue you experienced possibly?

only hiss or noise I ever heard was because of phones or laptops near by, but that was quickly solved by relocating the devices

 

and of course you're going to hear noise through them at stores where there's a bunch of other electronics that could be picked up by the Beats

 

this is definitely a design flaw but not he end of the world

 

if anything, the hissing is the least I'd worry about causing fatigue, the music I work on can be a bit ridiculous


Edited by ohmicide - 7/10/13 at 7:27am
post #355 of 642
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Originally Posted by inthere View Post

  Completely agree with the double amping part, last night I was advising a friend against double amping his Beats when we were testing a new headphone amp prototype. 

 

 You shouldn't put Beats on a headphone amp, period. 

 

 But that doesn't explain why the crappy internal amp in my Beats is not hissing while the pair you heard had hiss. Maybe one pair had a defective internal amp and the other didn't.

Really? I tried 4 different pairs(owned by various friends), but all of them had hissing, even when matched with silent sources.

post #356 of 642
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Originally Posted by Colton127 View Post

I know I may get some hate from this, but allow me to share my personal experience.I got a chance to listen to a pair of Solo HD (new version, not made by Monster) and was expecting a lot of overpowering bass. However, this was not the case. They sound great for dubstep or electric dance music. Listening to Skrillex's "Reptile" had a very nice, tight bass in every "drop" but the mids and highs were more than there. You can hear the distint "reptile" being repeated in the background. Even listening to "Voltage' with bass boost on my EQ didn't touch mids and highs a bit. I was kinda impressed. 

 

Listening to Rock music proved to be decent. Not AMAZING, but it was enjoyable at least. They really shine with hip hop and dubstep...What they're made for, I guess.

 

The Pros are, in my opinion, the most well-built headphones I have ever touched. They're full aluminum and are built like a tank. They're sound may not match their price, but the looks and durability may. 

 

All headphones are subjective and beats are by no means the absolute best for sound quality. They have a different target audience, and they meet their demands well. This forum is full of people who buy audiophilia headphones and therefore have a right to dislike Beats.

 

I've no idea what they've done with them, but the non-Monster version of the Solo HD actually sounds respectable. Not great, and still overpriced, but decent at most genres. This surprised me especially since the old Monster version sounded like an accident at a speaker factory...

post #357 of 642
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Originally Posted by EPICFAILXD View Post

 

I've no idea what they've done with them, but the non-Monster version of the Solo HD actually sounds respectable. Not great, and still overpriced, but decent at most genres. This surprised me especially since the old Monster version sounded like an accident at a speaker factory...

This might explain why the solo hd that I've  demoed sounded much better than what I've expected.

post #358 of 642
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Originally Posted by Ishcabible View Post

Uhh...the hiss is inherent with the NC. If you can't hear it, it might not be working correctly...

 I think this is the reason.........the NC in my GF's pair is probably broken. I'll be damned if I buy her a new pair though. They sound perfectly fine.

post #359 of 642
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Originally Posted by kimvictor View Post

You boosted the bass on beats? Holy jesus.

 

Yes, I was actually TRYING to get the bass to effect the mids/highs. I was playing "My Name is Skrillex" BASS BOOSTED rip from YouTube, with bass boost enabled in my EQ. The bass hit - hard - and the mids/highs remained untouched. Kyoto with bass boost turned all the way up on PowerAMP on my S III with a ROM for improved audio is simply great, really fun to listen to.

 

Impressed the hell out of me, the older Monster ones were such crap.


Edited by Colton127 - 7/10/13 at 10:00am
post #360 of 642

Beats is not terrible, but overpriced... way overpriced.

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