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ocharaku-FLAT4-KURO earphones.jpg

 

Funny that I never posted my review in this thread. Here Ω's review of Kuro. And yes, it is the bee's knees.

post #47 of 174

I love the review Shigzeo! Never heard the Kuro but can totally relate to you regarding drums on the Sui. Seriously they do drums so well and enough so to warrant some serous drooling. Just sounds so natural and real. I think this was similar to how the W3000 ANVs handled drums and that very much impressed me as well. I'm looking forward to getting the Kaede :).
 


Edited by lee730 - 6/25/13 at 5:10am
post #48 of 174
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Yes, I saw that you lucked out... I hope you enjoy Kaede.

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Hi guys, don't mean to derail the thread but I thought I'd post that the Westone Star Tips, although it takes a little doing, can be used on the Ocharaku IEM line. If you check out the video below you'll see a video I shot of a pair of SUI's I received from a friend who has them on tour. The tips are quite comfortable and work very well, in my opinion, without any negative effects to the sound signature.

 

post #50 of 174
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Flat4-Xuan
Flat4-Gen
Flat4-Trendy
Flat4-Chic

Does anyone know what this madness is about?

Edit: I'm not sure where else to post this...


Xuan=Kuro

Chic=SUI

 

These are google language translation errors, I'm assuming the other 2 match existing products also

post #51 of 174
Welp. I guess I'm the latest dude to join the Kuro club. I'm not proud to admit that btw. It shows lack of restraint on my part :l

Disappointing to hear that the paint flakes off btw :l
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... I'm not proud to admit that btw.

 

   :)

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Welp. I guess I'm the latest dude to join the Kuro club. I'm not proud to admit that btw. It shows lack of restraint on my part :l

Disappointing to hear that the paint flakes off btw :l

 

How do you like them in comparison to the Kaede?

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How do you like them in comparison to the Kaede?

No experience with either at the moment actually. My Kuro is bein delivered in the coming week. The ocharaku family of phones intrigues purely cause there are so many varying opinions on how the phones rank in comparison to one another. Some people think there's hardly any difference between SUI and Kaede, while others think they are in entirely different leagues. And heck, Utdeep (from whom I bought the phones) preferred Kuro to Kaede. I'm just tryin to sate my curiosity in regards to the matter. Unfortunately for myself, as an ENFP, I think in terms of "possibilities" or some such new-agey nonsense, and therefore, hope that there's a 901% difference between the Kuro and SUI, but that there's no difference to be found whatsoever between SUI and Kaede, lest some overzealous avian onlookers start to get a lil "cocky."
post #55 of 174
Argh... That musicn00b_fadfanboy_4321 (scientific name headphoneus supremeus) will wave his FOTM at us and tell us to go get an AKG3003.
Kuro forever! I plan to use my Kaede as firewood next weekend but I'm concerned that the brightness would confuse nearby aircraft
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No experience with either at the moment actually. My Kuro is bein delivered in the coming week. The ocharaku family of phones intrigues purely cause there are so many varying opinions on how the phones rank in comparison to one another. Some people think there's hardly any difference between SUI and Kaede, while others think they are in entirely different leagues. And heck, Utdeep (from whom I bought the phones) preferred Kuro to Kaede. I'm just tryin to sate my curiosity in regards to the matter. Unfortunately for myself, as an ENFP, I think in terms of "possibilities" or some such new-agey nonsense, and therefore, hope that there's a 901% difference between the Kuro and SUI, but that there's no difference to be found whatsoever between SUI and Kaede, lest some overzealous avian onlookers start to get a lil "cocky."

 

At first brief listen, I'm tempted to say that the Kuro seems to grab (my) attention more since the one I demo-ed sounded more treble-forward than the Kaede but there was something that sounded not so "controlled" with the Kuro. I'm not certain if it's the bass that wasn't as tight or if it was some other part of the FR - bear in mind these were all demos of which I feel the Kuro was a newer demo than the Kaede which had been on the shelf longer and therefore presumably, more time to bed in). Or maybe it was really a just the fundamental tuning differences. One thing though to me, the Kuro & Kaede were a lot closer sounding than the Sui. Yet pricing-wise, the Kuro is closer to the Sui price. To me this puts the Kuro very good value for money if one is looking for bang for the buck for th Ocharaku siganture.
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One thing though to me, the Kuro & Kaede were a lot closer sounding than the Sui. Yet pricing-wise, the Kuro is closer to the Sui price. To me this puts the Kuro very good value for money if one is looking for bang for the buck for th Ocharaku siganture.

Ah, this pretty much confirms some past impressions. 

post #58 of 174
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Kuro makes me want to bang out with my baby case.
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Kaede vs. Kuro A-B test (using Chesky's The Ultimate Demonstration Disc - lossless format)

 

Both earphones are close in sound; the general signature on both is shared, but their are small differences.

 

Kaede has slightly more bass.

Kaede has more detail to the music, but not a huge difference.

Kaede had better depth, notes seem to have more weight.

Bass decay is faster on the Kuro; the Kaede handles bass sounds better to my ears with the slower decay.

 

Brightness - both are just as bright, but I felt that the Kaede handled the sounds of symbols just a bit more naturally.

The Kaede has a slightly fuller richer sound.

 

Still the Kuro is not far behind and is an excellent way to experience 95% of the Kaede's sound. The truth is that most people would be hard pressed to hear a difference between the two, and one really has to struggle to hear the difference, but once you start to notice it, it is obvious.

Needless to say, the price difference is much greater than what the sound difference implies, making the Kuro quite a bargain for experiencing the Ocharaku sound.


Edited by Carlsan - 7/7/13 at 9:38pm
post #60 of 174
Wow. That doesn't sync up with my experiences at all.

I agree that there are small differences, but I'm hearing the opposite of what you are hearing.

Kuro has more bass and it extends deeper. It's the most noticeable difference to me on all music. Decay seems to be about the same.

I could agree that Kaede has richer sound, but feels brighter to my ears.

Ignoring price points, I feel like they're two different expressions of the same signature.

I found sibilance at exactly the same points in the same songs with both IEMs. My sibilance test includes the following tracks: Bleed it Out by Linkin Park, This Sweet Love by James Yuil. They are both a brutal experience with the Ocharakus.
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