Funny that I never posted my review in this thread. Here Ω's review of Kuro. And yes, it is the bee's knees.
I love the review Shigzeo! Never heard the Kuro but can totally relate to you regarding drums on the Sui. Seriously they do drums so well and enough so to warrant some serous drooling. Just sounds so natural and real. I think this was similar to how the W3000 ANVs handled drums and that very much impressed me as well. I'm looking forward to getting the Kaede :).
Hi guys, don't mean to derail the thread but I thought I'd post that the Westone Star Tips, although it takes a little doing, can be used on the Ocharaku IEM line. If you check out the video below you'll see a video I shot of a pair of SUI's I received from a friend who has them on tour. The tips are quite comfortable and work very well, in my opinion, without any negative effects to the sound signature.
These are google language translation errors, I'm assuming the other 2 match existing products also
How do you like them in comparison to the Kaede?
At first brief listen, I'm tempted to say that the Kuro seems to grab (my) attention more since the one I demo-ed sounded more treble-forward than the Kaede but there was something that sounded not so "controlled" with the Kuro. I'm not certain if it's the bass that wasn't as tight or if it was some other part of the FR - bear in mind these were all demos of which I feel the Kuro was a newer demo than the Kaede which had been on the shelf longer and therefore presumably, more time to bed in). Or maybe it was really a just the fundamental tuning differences. One thing though to me, the Kuro & Kaede were a lot closer sounding than the Sui. Yet pricing-wise, the Kuro is closer to the Sui price. To me this puts the Kuro very good value for money if one is looking for bang for the buck for th Ocharaku siganture.
Ah, this pretty much confirms some past impressions.
Kaede vs. Kuro A-B test (using Chesky's The Ultimate Demonstration Disc - lossless format)
Both earphones are close in sound; the general signature on both is shared, but their are small differences.
Kaede has slightly more bass.
Kaede has more detail to the music, but not a huge difference.
Kaede had better depth, notes seem to have more weight.
Bass decay is faster on the Kuro; the Kaede handles bass sounds better to my ears with the slower decay.
Brightness - both are just as bright, but I felt that the Kaede handled the sounds of symbols just a bit more naturally.
The Kaede has a slightly fuller richer sound.
Still the Kuro is not far behind and is an excellent way to experience 95% of the Kaede's sound. The truth is that most people would be hard pressed to hear a difference between the two, and one really has to struggle to hear the difference, but once you start to notice it, it is obvious.
Needless to say, the price difference is much greater than what the sound difference implies, making the Kuro quite a bargain for experiencing the Ocharaku sound.