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post #856 of 1966

Yeah, just compared them quickly coz honestly I'm not listening to vc02 at all. So nothing too detailed - just quick comparison based on few soings.

As I already said due to its form factor the Vc02 has the better isolation but needs deeper insertion to sound its best which leads to the first issue - the detachable cable. While I personally am very careful when taking the vc02 out of my ears I have to admit that I always worry that the cables will detach and the housings will remain in my ears, which is something that some users have experienced.(Actually scratch that, coz it did just happen while I was going quickly between the VSD1S and the VC02). As far as sound, it didn't take me much to remember why initially I wasn't very impressed with the vc02 even before VSD1/S came out in comparison the the gr04 flagship. The vc02 is relatively hard to drive despite its low impedance. In that regard I think it sounds better amped but then comes the second issue - power handling. While VSD1/S can take a huge amount of power without even sweating, so you can push it really really loud even with bass boost on, the vc02 will start to distort and even more if you use bass boost. That's not a major issue per se if you don't like to listen to music at higher volume but I do occasionally like it louder and it's hard not to notice.

 Vc02 has a pretty good bass - flat, tight and punchy even though not much in quantity. In comparison VSD1S has more bass with more of a mid-bass punch and is a touch slower while VSD1S is better in that regard with flatter bass and harder impact, which easily beats the vc02's bass IMO even though slightly lacking in texture compared to it. The mids of VC02 and VSD1/S are very good with VSD1/S's being a touch laid back and slightly warmer and fuller in comparison to the more balanced vc02 . Detail is pretty good on both with the vc02 having a bit better clarity due to its more neutral presentation but the slightly warmer VSD1/S has better timbre and for me sounds more effortless overall with better layering. Treble-wise the VSD1S is the clear winner for me by a margin. Even the VSD1, which is slightly drier in that region and slightly more prone to sibilance is something I would pick any day over the vc02, which is dry, grainy and a bit peacky and has a strange dip in the lower treble, which makes female vocals sound really artificial to me.

So as I've said many times, the vc02 is a pretty decent iem but I've never really liked it that much. For me VSD1S is the clear winner overall.

 

edit: Now when I think about it, it didn't turn out as quick, short and not very detailed as I originally intended. LOL


Edited by kova4a - 9/30/13 at 1:55pm
post #857 of 1966

kova4a

I'm right the vsd1s have bass like gr02BE it's more subbass region and less midbass.

post #858 of 1966

Interesting stuff kova4a! But you're a trouble-maker... you've actually got me thinking about trying out the vsd1s now even though I already have, and am very happy with, the vsd1! 

:beerchug: 

post #859 of 1966
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Originally Posted by stimer View Post
 

kova4a

I'm right the vsd1s have bass like gr02BE it's more subbass region and less midbass.

 

Well, I sold the gr02be a while ago, so I haven't heard it in a while but I'll say no. The gr02be's bass was extending low but was softer on the impact and slower while the vsd1s' bass is tighter and with better impact, which while having more of a deep-bass punch I'd say is flatter.

post #860 of 1966
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

Interesting stuff kova4a! But you're a trouble-maker... you've actually got me thinking about trying out the vsd1s now even though I already have, and am very happy with, the vsd1! 

:beerchug: 

 

Nah, I'm just drinking and being helpful as usual. Anyway, as I said there isn't such a big difference between VSD1 and VSD1S. Yeah, VSD1S technically is the better iem of the two but honestly I thought the slightly fuller sounding VSD1 with its slightly bigger bass body would make someone like you happier. I guess you can't know for sure until you try it - how's that for a troublemaker?

post #861 of 1966
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

 

Nah, I'm just drinking and being helpful as usual. Anyway, as I said there isn't such a big difference between VSD1 and VSD1S. Yeah, VSD1S technically is the better iem of the two but honestly I thought the slightly fuller sounding VSD1 with its slightly bigger bass body would make someone like you happier. I guess you can't know for sure until you try it - how's that for a troublemaker?

 

Pitch perfect lol!

post #862 of 1966

Am I the only one here who prefer vc02 over vsd1/s? :) Or maybe I like vc02 better because its a little closer to RE400 sound sig when properly eq'ed. :)

post #863 of 1966

I'm looking into something better and richer sounding than the VSD1, under 100$, for ex, is the RE400 definitely a big jump?

 

I recently bought a DX50 and I want an IEM where I can take full advantage of the hd music files at high bit rate and can take more power too!

 

Thanks! :)

post #864 of 1966
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Originally Posted by RuRu View Post

I'm looking into something better and richer sounding than the VSD1, under 100$, for ex, is the RE400 definitely a big jump?

I recently bought a DX50 and I want an IEM where I can take full advantage of the hd music files at high bit rate and can take more power too!

Thanks! smily_headphones1.gif
I didn't find the re400s scale too much with gear. It sounds good whether from an iPhone or the dx50
post #865 of 1966

Thanks Spurxiii!

My point was that Im currently using the VSD1 and I would like to get a better sounding IEMs under 100$. Of course, I will use them with any gear (incluing my superb DX50 and my Lumia720) :)

 

Any recommendations? Would the RE400 be a good upgrade? I listened to some GR07 some time ago and I was impressed by its naturalness and clarity. 

post #866 of 1966
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Thanks Spurxiii!
My point was that Im currently using the VSD1 and I would like to get a better sounding IEMs under 100$. Of course, I will use them with any gear (incluing my superb DX50 and my Lumia720) smily_headphones1.gif

Any recommendations? Would the RE400 be a good upgrade? I listened to some GR07 some time ago and I was impressed by its naturalness and clarity. 

I've got the GR07 BEs and they sound great with the DX50. But I listen mainly to EDM, so for acoustic and vocals the RE400 may be a better choice since the mids are a little more forward. The bass, especially the mid bass is leaner on RE400 though
post #867 of 1966

I actually listen to all kind of music depending on the day and my mood :D  I heard that the GR07 are really flat and natural, so perhaps the mid and voices are not as bright or forward. Where can I find the RE400 in Europe? Any other options in Dynamic driver? 

 

On the other hand, how do they compare to the GR01, Rockit R50 or any other Dual BA with the Knowles TWFK driver? I'm sure I can find some of these around 100$...:bigsmile_face:

post #868 of 1966

The only BAs I've ever heard are the ones I've owned which are UE600, UE700, Superfi 3, UE900 all of which were pretty neutral and go well with any genre. I've also heard my mate's MEElectronics A161P and although only single BA I liked their sound. The UE700s were dual BAs and I loved them also until they broke, my own fault. When my UE700s broke it lead me to headfi in May and that was it.

post #869 of 1966

So then the options are between a RE400 and possibily a BA around 100$...I hope the final choice makes a difference with the VSD1!

 

Any recommended online shop for the RE400? I don't want to end up buying in Ebay :confused_face: 

post #870 of 1966

What model should i buy: VSD1 vs. VSD1S if i like more the Sony EX082 than MH1? Or should i wait for the Brainwavz S1, which seems better than VSD1? What you guys think?

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