Originally Posted by kova4a
Originally Posted by Vain III
Foam tips will give you a better seal because they expand. They're also extremely comfortable. This comes at the price of less bass and a more laid back, imo, sound. It works on some headphones, but I didn't find it useful on my VSD1. Actually, I think the smallest Auvio tips are best for me. It strengthens the mid bass and it seems to enlarge the already large--for it's price range--sound stage. It doesn't muddy the mid-range and might even bring it forward a tiny bit. One thing I always found to be true with Vsonic headphones--like the Kef M200 and ASG2 for example--is that it's a very tip dominate headphone. Different tips will affect the headphones to a massive extent. I think master troll also said something like this about the VSD1LE.
The Auvio Smallest tips are excellent! They're giving me a new found love for the VSD1 and are keeping me happy until Christmas when I can jump on my IM70. Glory and Gore by Lorde has some great sub-bass starting at 2:07 minutes into the song. The tips also bring forth her voice more than any tips I have.
Hmm, what foam tips usually do to the sound is warm it up and boost the bass while reducing the treble, which makes the sound a bit darker and sometimes muffled. I personally use foam tips only with bright and cold iems. Btw I was also considering the new ath iems - either the IM70 or the new multi-BA ones coz my friend from Japan will be coming early February and I like to use him to get the best prices without paying for shipping and customs taxes. Now with the Noble 4 on the way I'm not so sure about the BAs but the IM70 is relatively cheap, so I might give it a go unless something other interesting comes out in Japan by then.
Weird, I always hear more mid-bass, but less sub-bass when I have comply tips on my phones. The vocals seem to come forward a bit but in a softer way. Overall it just makes all frequencies seem more mellow. Warm and dark was never my IEM sound signature though. I don't mind it, and even prefer it, on some over-ear headphones, but on IEM that is my definition of laid-back. I tend to get the best treble from deep insertion tips, and sub-bass from hybrid silicon tips.
Though the material is only half the battle. Still have to worry about spacing, size of the bore, any ventilation or materials used inside the tips--such as the wax guard filter--etc. Which I find makes all the difference. My problem with the comply tips could be that I forced them onto the headphone, as we stated earlier, but I've never had much luck with foam tips as they all seem to just come off inside my ear. I've had to tweezer out foam tips at least 20 times since I started coming to head-fi.
It doesn't seem to be that debatable anymore that the IM50 is basically a bass light version of the IM70. So if you want something cheaper that retains the same overall SQ I would check those out. Though if you're bass hungry I would grab the IM70. They're just shy of bass-head level without really interfering with the other frequencies. I'm actually thinking of picking up the Tzar 90 or NOBLE 3 for my birthday.Edited by Vain III - 12/14/13 at 7:26pm