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post #1396 of 1890
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Are there people wearing them up without switching channels? I'm wearing my VSD1's down because I found it to difficult and annoying to wear them over my ear.

I wear them both ways. But over the top without the hooks is a bit annoying.  The wires don't really like to drape over the ear. With the hooks it's better but I'm always reaching up and finding the wire coming partially out of the hooks.

 

In general I have found a bit fit and more 'comfort' wearing them over the top. But yesterday and today I've been experimenting more with 'down'.

 

When I wear them down the earpiece with the printing is in my right ear and over the top printing in my left ear. I've never tried it any other way.

post #1397 of 1890

This is kind of a tuff thread to wade through in search results so forgive me for a quick question

 

I saw a mention in an early post about "fake comply tips". What are the fake ones? I saw a website saying the Original Comply tips. Is that the difference?

 

Related questions(s): I assume the nozzle size has stayed the same since the GR02 Pro 02, the two models on the Comply site.

 

Is the material different from the typical foam tips like that come with the Vsonics?

post #1398 of 1890
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This is kind of a tuff thread to wade through in search results so forgive me for a quick question

 

I saw a mention in an early post about "fake comply tips". What are the fake ones? I saw a website saying the Original Comply tips. Is that the difference?

 

Related questions(s): I assume the nozzle size has stayed the same since the GR02 Pro 02, the two models on the Comply site.

 

Is the material different from the typical foam tips like that come with the Vsonics?

Well, I guess someone mentioned fake comply tips because the foam tips that come with the VSD1/S resemble a bit the comply foam tips. And yeah, the comply tips use different material, which is a lot better than of the vsonic foam tips.

No, the Gr02 has bigger nozzle size and there isn't an exact size made for the other vsonics like VSD1/S, GR07, GR06 etc. While some people use certain comply tips like t200 there aren't perfect fit for this nozzle size and that's why on comply's site these vsonic iems have been listed as incompatible and not approved for use with comply tips.

On another hand, none of these vsonic iems sounds its best with comply foam tips or the "fake comply" vsonic tips , so you're better off sticking to silicone tips. 

post #1399 of 1890
I actually found that the TSX500 Comply's fit best on my VSD1 classics, but the Auvio tips are the best fitting tips thus far. They might even have the edge over stock tips for fit because stock tips are quite the PITA to get on.biggrin.gif
post #1400 of 1890
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I actually found that the TSX500 Comply's fit best on my VSD1 classics, but the Auvio tips are the best fitting tips thus far. They might even have the edge over stock tips for fit because stock tips are quite the PITA to get on.biggrin.gif

 

Well, I remember trying t500 and it fit fairly secure when forced over the entire nozzle if I had to choose I would go for the t200 or the other 200 series.. Don't know what you mean by the stock tips being a PITA to get on. They are pretty easy to put on although I do have quite the experience with tip rolling and can fit almost any tip on any nozzle in a very short time.

I'll tell you what's a PITA - the colored silicone tips that come with the other vsonic iems also come with iems like gr02 that has quite the bigger nozzle. And not only these tips have narrower stems than the stock black vsonic tips but someone from vsonic decided everyone will be able to fit them on a 5.5mm nozzle. Now that's a PITA - to get a gr02 and start tip rolling and realize that 90% of the tips you got will aren't really meant for this iem.

post #1401 of 1890
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I actually found that the TSX500 Comply's fit best on my VSD1 classics, but the Auvio tips are the best fitting tips thus far. They might even have the edge over stock tips for fit because stock tips are quite the PITA to get on.biggrin.gif

I think you mentioned these above and I took quick look at them.

 

The price is certainly right. Can you explain what you like about them over other tips other than easy to get on. Comfort? Sound? Seal?

post #1402 of 1890
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Originally Posted by Vain III View Post

I actually found that the TSX500 Comply's fit best on my VSD1 classics, but the Auvio tips are the best fitting tips thus far. They might even have the edge over stock tips for fit because stock tips are quite the PITA to get on.biggrin.gif

Well, I remember trying t500 and it fit fairly secure when forced over the entire nozzle if I had to choose I would go for the t200 or the other 200 series.. Don't know what you mean by the stock tips being a PITA to get on. They are pretty easy to put on although I do have quite the experience with tip rolling and can fit almost any tip on any nozzle in a very short time.
I'll tell you what's a PITA - the colored silicone tips that come with the other vsonic iems also come with iems like gr02 that has quite the bigger nozzle. And not only these tips have narrower stems than the stock black vsonic tips but someone from vsonic decided everyone will be able to fit them on a 5.5mm nozzle. Now that's a PITA - to get a gr02 and start tip rolling and realize that 90% of the tips you got will aren't really meant for this iem.

Yeah, I've fit some horrible tight tips on to my iem's before as well, but that's what I love about the Auvio tips. They literally just plop right onto the nozzle and unless I pull really hard they'll stay firm. Haven't had the fun of tip rolling to many headphones as a lot of the headphones I buy have fit the Monster triple flange's quite easily. I absolutely hated the foam tips that came with the VSD1's though. I believe I mentioned it when I first got them but no matter how I put them on they just keep coming off inside my ear. Which is why I forced the 500 series tip over the nozzle. It holds extra firmly now and even took a little muscle to get it off.
post #1403 of 1890
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Well, I remember trying t500 and it fit fairly secure when forced over the entire nozzle if I had to choose I would go for the t200 or the other 200 series.. Don't know what you mean by the stock tips being a PITA to get on. They are pretty easy to put on although I do have quite the experience with tip rolling and can fit almost any tip on any nozzle in a very short time.

I'll tell you what's a PITA - the colored silicone tips that come with the other vsonic iems also come with iems like gr02 that has quite the bigger nozzle. And not only these tips have narrower stems than the stock black vsonic tips but someone from vsonic decided everyone will be able to fit them on a 5.5mm nozzle. Now that's a PITA - to get a gr02 and start tip rolling and realize that 90% of the tips you got will aren't really meant for this iem.

 

I'll tell YOU what's a PITA... trying to get ANY tips on the M200's! Somehow though I've been managing do it (and it's definitely worth it!).

post #1404 of 1890
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I actually found that the TSX500 Comply's fit best on my VSD1 classics, but the Auvio tips are the best fitting tips thus far. They might even have the edge over stock tips for fit because stock tips are quite the PITA to get on.biggrin.gif
I think you mentioned these above and I took quick look at them.

The price is certainly right. Can you explain what you like about them over other tips other than easy to get on. Comfort? Sound? Seal?

Foam tips will give you a better seal because they expand. They're also extremely comfortable. This comes at the price of less bass and a more laid back, imo, sound. It works on some headphones, but I didn't find it useful on my VSD1. Actually, I think the smallest Auvio tips are best for me. It strengthens the mid bass and it seems to enlarge the already large--for it's price range--sound stage. It doesn't muddy the mid-range and might even bring it forward a tiny bit. One thing I always found to be true with Vsonic headphones--like the Kef M200 and ASG2 for example--is that it's a very tip dominate headphone. Different tips will affect the headphones to a massive extent. I think master troll also said something like this about the VSD1LE. biggrin.gif

The Auvio Smallest tips are excellent! They're giving me a new found love for the VSD1 and are keeping me happy until Christmas when I can jump on my IM70. Glory and Gore by Lorde has some great sub-bass starting at 2:07 minutes into the song. The tips also bring forth her voice more than any tips I have.
Edited by Vain III - 12/14/13 at 6:10pm
post #1405 of 1890
I just looked up the AT IM70 and what a gorgeous dual dynamic driver! Never even knew they were out! I wonder how they stack up against the JVC FXT90 and Meelectronics M - Duo???
post #1406 of 1890
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Foam tips will give you a better seal because they expand. They're also extremely comfortable. This comes at the price of less bass and a more laid back, imo, sound. It works on some headphones, but I didn't find it useful on my VSD1. Actually, I think the smallest Auvio tips are best for me. It strengthens the mid bass and it seems to enlarge the already large--for it's price range--sound stage. It doesn't muddy the mid-range and might even bring it forward a tiny bit. One thing I always found to be true with Vsonic headphones--like the Kef M200 and ASG2 for example--is that it's a very tip dominate headphone. Different tips will affect the headphones to a massive extent. I think master troll also said something like this about the VSD1LE. biggrin.gif

The Auvio Smallest tips are excellent! They're giving me a new found love for the VSD1 and are keeping me happy until Christmas when I can jump on my IM70. Glory and Gore by Lorde has some great sub-bass starting at 2:07 minutes into the song. The tips also bring forth her voice more than any tips I have.

Hmm, what foam tips usually do to the sound is warm it up and boost the bass while reducing the treble, which makes the sound a bit darker and sometimes muffled. I personally use foam tips only with bright and cold iems.  Btw I was also considering the new ath iems - either the IM70 or the new multi-BA ones coz my friend from Japan will be coming early February and I like to use him to get the best prices without paying for shipping and customs taxes. Now with the Noble 4 on the way I'm not so sure about the BAs but the IM70 is relatively cheap, so I might give it a go unless something other interesting comes out in Japan by then.

post #1407 of 1890
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Originally Posted by Vain III View Post

Foam tips will give you a better seal because they expand. They're also extremely comfortable. This comes at the price of less bass and a more laid back, imo, sound. It works on some headphones, but I didn't find it useful on my VSD1. Actually, I think the smallest Auvio tips are best for me. It strengthens the mid bass and it seems to enlarge the already large--for it's price range--sound stage. It doesn't muddy the mid-range and might even bring it forward a tiny bit. One thing I always found to be true with Vsonic headphones--like the Kef M200 and ASG2 for example--is that it's a very tip dominate headphone. Different tips will affect the headphones to a massive extent. I think master troll also said something like this about the VSD1LE. biggrin.gif


The Auvio Smallest tips are excellent! They're giving me a new found love for the VSD1 and are keeping me happy until Christmas when I can jump on my IM70. Glory and Gore by Lorde has some great sub-bass starting at 2:07 minutes into the song. The tips also bring forth her voice more than any tips I have.
Hmm, what foam tips usually do to the sound is warm it up and boost the bass while reducing the treble, which makes the sound a bit darker and sometimes muffled. I personally use foam tips only with bright and cold iems.  Btw I was also considering the new ath iems - either the IM70 or the new multi-BA ones coz my friend from Japan will be coming early February and I like to use him to get the best prices without paying for shipping and customs taxes. Now with the Noble 4 on the way I'm not so sure about the BAs but the IM70 is relatively cheap, so I might give it a go unless something other interesting comes out in Japan by then.

Weird, I always hear more mid-bass, but less sub-bass when I have comply tips on my phones. The vocals seem to come forward a bit but in a softer way. Overall it just makes all frequencies seem more mellow. Warm and dark was never my IEM sound signature though. I don't mind it, and even prefer it, on some over-ear headphones, but on IEM that is my definition of laid-back. I tend to get the best treble from deep insertion tips, and sub-bass from hybrid silicon tips.

Though the material is only half the battle. Still have to worry about spacing, size of the bore, any ventilation or materials used inside the tips--such as the wax guard filter--etc. Which I find makes all the difference. My problem with the comply tips could be that I forced them onto the headphone, as we stated earlier, but I've never had much luck with foam tips as they all seem to just come off inside my ear. I've had to tweezer out foam tips at least 20 times since I started coming to head-fi.

It doesn't seem to be that debatable anymore that the IM50 is basically a bass light version of the IM70. So if you want something cheaper that retains the same overall SQ I would check those out. Though if you're bass hungry I would grab the IM70. They're just shy of bass-head level without really interfering with the other frequencies. I'm actually thinking of picking up the Tzar 90 or NOBLE 3 for my birthday.
Edited by Vain III - 12/14/13 at 7:26pm
post #1408 of 1890
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Originally Posted by ezas View Post
Is the material different from the typical foam tips like that come with the Vsonics?

Yes,The stock foam tips that are tagged along with, are not original Complys.The Complys are very soft textured and vsonic's are like packing foam finish.Overall Complys look professional and well finished. But vsonic's foamies does their job too.......not bad ones. I don't use much but silicones so I'm least bothered about foamies, as it impacts the original SS IMO.

post #1409 of 1890

I've been using the V-Moda wide bore tips. They seem to give me the best fit and seal out of all the other tips I've tried.

post #1410 of 1890

+1> I did save the wide bore tips from v-Moda faze and also from M9P and some other IEMs.

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