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post #1171 of 1910

Btw, I need a bit of distraction, so I'm thinking of putting the LE against the ever so hyped mh1/c and might post a short comparison later

post #1172 of 1910
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With any luck i should be able to get mine this week, since hk to singapore is relatively close redface.gif

 

With any luck, I'll get mine...

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 Estimated delivery Monday, Nov 18, 2013 - Thursday, Dec 12, 2013

... since I apparently live on the other side of the solar system ;)

post #1173 of 1910
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Your the only person here who's hyping them! Or are you trolling everybody... ;)

 

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Well, I don't recall saying anywhere that the LE isn't good. Just because sf is really trying to sell them really hard while I'm just stating my opinion, doesn't mean that he's the only one liking them. And yeah, he's trolling constantly even when praising stuff.

^ Guilty as charged on both account. :bigsmile_face:

 

It all depends if YOU like them or not though. What i say is irrelevant. :)

post #1174 of 1910
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^ Guilty as charged on both account. :bigsmile_face:

 

It all depends if YOU like them or not though. What i say is irrelevant. :)

Well, I definitely like it. I've been comparing it to the mh1 for a few  hours and I constantly feel the need to put it against something more detailed and analytical, which I'll do.

 

I still can't form my exact opinion on it but I'll definitely have to change my initial impressions coz I haven't had an iem change so much in some areas during burn-in in a long time. At around 30 hours of burn-in I put it against the mh1 coz someone asked me about it and now after all that intensive burn-in I'll have to change my impressions. 

 

Putting soundstage size aside the LE does some things really well. It's actually kinda weird - it's like someone at Vsonic said "Let's make a stage monitor that sounds very clear and detailed without sacrificing the bass quantity. And let's make it extremely forgiving even at very high volume coz I see people complain about that stuff. Oh, and let's reduce that airiness in the presentation coz it only dilutes the sound and people on stage don't care about fullness and width of the soundstage - they care about accuracy."


Edited by kova4a - 11/10/13 at 3:24pm
post #1175 of 1910
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Well, I definitely like it. I've been comparing it to the mh1 for a few  hours and I constantly feel the need to put it against something more detailed and analytical, which I'll do.

 

I still can't form my exact opinion on it but I'll definitely have to change my initial impressions coz I haven't had an iem change so much in some areas during burn-in in a long time. At around 30 hours of burn-in I put it against the mh1 coz someone asked me about it and now after all that intensive burn-in I'll have to change my impressions. 

 

Putting soundstage size aside the LE does some things really well. It's actually kinda weird - it's like someone at Vsonic said "Let's make a stage monitor that sounds very clear and detailed without sacrificing the bass quantity. And let's make it extremely forgiving even at very high volume coz I see people complain about that stuff. Oh, and let's reduce that airiness in the presentation coz it only dilutes the sound and people on stage don't care about fullness and width of the soundstage - they care about accuracy."

^ Pretty much agreed with everything above, but for me these LEs are much more "airy" hence they sound more 3D to me as compared to the more flat 2Desque sound of the regular VSD1 or even the gr07 BEs. The better instrument layering, fuller, thicker, bolder sound combined with the more outta' your head presentation all makes these LEs much more "fun" and less analytical compared to everything i have heard from VSonic. Despite they are the most fun, they seem to be crazy accurate as well. This is how i hear them anyways.

 

They kinda remind me of a mix of the VSonic VC02s in that it is pretty damn fast and accurate due to the micro driver, combined with the bigger more well textured bass and lush forward mids of the regular VSD1. The more smooth treble is for sure closer to that of the VC02 so as you stated makes these extremely forgiving even at high volumes.  Very well controlled is how i would describe these LEs as well.

 

This is the 1st step VSonic seems to be taking in addressing some of the "problems" with their older lineup, but they also added some interesting twists into the mix. I really like what i am hearing and where they are going if these LEs are any indication of their future releases. :)

post #1176 of 1910

I still don't know from where you get that more airy sound with the LE. I tried different sources and combinations and the VSD1 and VSD1S are clearly fuller and wider. It's the lack of the that air that makes it so clear.After the burn-in the difference for me is as if there was a whole bunch of air in the presentation that make the sound fuller and more enveloping (while the VSD1 and VSD1S sounded wider and more transparent) and then someone removed most of it.

 

My initial impressions when I compared it with mh1 was that even though the LE is a bit behind its brothers its still fuller and more engaging than the sony. Now the mh1 sounds a bit fuller aside from being warmer. The LE is definitely clearer and has better separation than it. Actually, people always talk how smooth the mh1/c is but aside from the lower treble, which is still a touch hot at high volume (better than any other vsonic though) in comparison to the sony, the mh1/c sounds grainy next to the more neutral and smoother LE. The mh1 has a better treble extension but honestly I don't like how cymbal crashes sound at all on it. In reality at very high volume for stuff like metal and rock the LE is actually more forgiving.

 

The bass like the highs hasn't particularly changed after the burn-in. Still tighter and more controlled than the mh1's and less in quantity. The VC02 is still punchier and faster but it has less bass and that makes it easier to keep it under control. I should probably put the LE against the VC02, which I haven't heard for a while coz I'm pretty sure vc02 will be fuller and more aggressive than it.

Actually, just gave the VC02 a quick listen and yeah, it sounds crisper but also extremely harsh and fatiguing next to the super smooth and gentle LE.


Edited by kova4a - 11/10/13 at 4:53pm
post #1177 of 1910

Weird how they designed these for an almost perfect around the ear fit but made you swap left and right side for that to happen.

post #1178 of 1910
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Weird how they designed these for an almost perfect around the ear fit but made you swap left and right side for that to happen.

Well, it's a matter of personal preference and personal fit. Yeah, over the ear fit is great with these but it's also great for me cable down and I quite prefer the quicker seal I get this way. And now I have 3 pretty great bang for the buck iems that are meant to be worn cable down and give me a  good fit without twisting cables around my ears.

post #1179 of 1910

Has anyone received fake VSD1S? I got it through amazon, through SoundShiNe (new seller, but has 4.9 stars). The box seemed legitimate with the seals and such (http://i.imgur.com/QWELmav.png), but the VSD1S I got sound worse than the stock earphones that came with the Sansa Clip+. I thought maybe my Sansa Clip was broken, but I tested out it with AD700s on it and they sounded perfect.

 

 

I've heard about the 50 hour burn-in time recommendation, but unless that improves sound quality by 200% I'd still rather use the <$1 stock earphones: i.imgur.com/nh43Yvh.png.


Edited by heavytwenty - 11/11/13 at 2:09pm
post #1180 of 1910

Nah, haven't heard of any fake vsonics yet. I don't know where my clip buds are coz I never cared for their sound but IMO the VSD1S 100% destroys them. Now, personal preference plays a huge part in this hobby and you should listen to what you like. I've had a lot of my friends prefer their iems next to my technically better ones and there's no convincing them, so I don't see how I can convince you that VSD1S is superior if you personally don't like it coz it doesn't really change with burn-in.

post #1181 of 1910
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Nah, haven't heard of any fake vsonics yet. I don't know where my clip buds are coz I never cared for their sound but IMO the VSD1S 100% destroys them. Now, personal preference plays a huge part in this hobby and you should listen to what you like. I've had a lot of my friends prefer their iems next to my technically better ones and there's no convincing them, so I don't see how I can convince you that VSD1S is superior if you personally don't like it coz it doesn't really change with burn-in.
I agree with you, these ear buds rock, they sound better than some of way more expensive IEMs. Burn in is important with these, as far as I know there is no such thing as fake Vsonics specially a fake 50 dollar ear bud. Give it more time and try a different DAP as well.
post #1182 of 1910
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Well, it's a matter of personal preference and personal fit. Yeah, over the ear fit is great with these but it's also great for me cable down and I quite prefer the quicker seal I get this way. And now I have 3 pretty great bang for the buck iems that are meant to be worn cable down and give me a  good fit without twisting cables around my ears.

 

Yeah fit is personal and the ergonomics straight down don't work at all for my ears. 

If you really want to wear them over the ear without the cable falling of from top of you ears moving about it's a good idea to make a home made cable slider from pliable cable or a cable tie.

post #1183 of 1910
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I agree with you, these ear buds rock, they sound better than some of way more expensive IEMs. Burn in is important with these, as far as I know there is no such thing as fake Vsonics specially a fake 50 dollar ear bud. Give it more time and try a different DAP as well.

I'm beginning to suspect that I received defective IEMs unless by design they're suppose to have -10 dBs from 150 hz and below? It seriously sounds like I'm listening to audio from a built-in TV or laptop speakers. Like french horns sound tinny; that's probably ~250+hz?

 

I've tried other devices (phone, PC, can't connect it to my AV receiver because I don't have a 1/4 converter) with same results.


Edited by heavytwenty - 11/11/13 at 3:08pm
post #1184 of 1910
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I'm beginning to suspect that I received defective IEMs unless by design they're suppose to have -10 dBs from 150 hz and below? It seriously sounds like I'm listening to audio from a built-in TV or laptop speakers. Like french horns sound tinny; that's probably ~250+hz?


Sounds maybe like you cant get a good fit.

Have you tried wearing them around the ear?

post #1185 of 1910
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Originally Posted by heavytwenty View Post
 

I'm beginning to suspect that I received defective IEMs unless by design they're suppose to have -10 dBs from 150 hz and below? It seriously sounds like I'm listening to audio from a built-in TV or laptop speakers. Like french horns sound tinny; that's probably ~250+hz?

 

I've tried other devices (phone, PC, can't connect it to my AV receiver because I don't have a 1/4 converter) with same results.

Well, I doubt it's a defect unless you somehow got 2 defective drivers. You should make sure you're getting the right fit. Play a little bit with the nozzle position and try to find the best angle for you. I recently had one of my Le's nozzles slightly off and for a few minutes I thought one of the drivers was damaged because of the difference in sound even though I still got a decent fit, so nozzle positioning plays a big part in getting the right sound.

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