Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Source Gear › [Impression] FiiO X3 – High Fi, Low Price.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Impression] FiiO X3 – High Fi, Low Price. - Page 21

post #301 of 626
Even my mom exclaimed "hey this says it's only 145 k-b-p-s!"

You know something is wrong when your non-tech-savvy mom realises something is up, hahaha. Most of her collection is < 256 kbps anyway though...
post #302 of 626

Yeah I never ran across that problem, everything I've seen was 320 kbps.

Is that a recent download you have? I seem to recall them using VBR encodings when they first started offering mp3s.  Since 145 kbps is not a standard biterate for mp3 its most likely an earlier VBR encoding where the bitrate displayed is not accurate, since it fluctuates from 128-256 kbps depending on the specific part of the decode In the song.

If I'm not mistaking ALAC is vbr too because it fluctuates in Foobar2000s display from 400-800 kbps I noticed once.

 

 

Where you able to confirm that the itunes version of the same song sounded any better?

post #303 of 626
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ Max View Post

Yeah I never ran across that problem, everything I've seen was 320 kbps.

Is that a recent download you have? I seem to recall them using VBR encodings when they first started offering mp3s.  Since 145 kbps is not a standard biterate for mp3 its most likely an earlier VBR encoding where the bitrate displayed is not accurate, since it fluctuates from 128-256 kbps depending on the specific part of the decode In the song.

If I'm not mistaking ALAC is vbr too because it fluctuates in Foobar2000s display from 400-800 kbps I noticed once.

 

 

Where you able to confirm that the itunes version of the same song sounded any better?

I just re-downloaded the songs from AmazonMP3 and yeah the bitrate varies a lot. I don't have a 320 kbps one, but I have 256, 246, 242, 204, and 145 kbps ones. >_<

 

iTunes's versions sound more or less the same depending on the album. They do have the digitally remastered version and it has been gloriously affected by the loudness war! :D

post #304 of 626
Quote:
Originally Posted by burtomr View Post

 

It does if ALL your music files are high res. Having to re-sample to lesser bitrates is unnessasary if the DAP can handle 'em.

 

Example: Rockbox FW in a player can play ANY res file & type ever made period.


Rockbox will decode high-res files but then down-sample them to accommodate the limitations of the player's DAC - most players that RB has been made for cannot play 24/96 without an external DAC, but I've seen that they have firmware (still buggy I think) for the Hifiman 801 and 6-series which I believe can handle high-res. For most, if not all other players, a lack of a true line-out makes pursuit of high-res nirvana a moot point.

post #305 of 626
Quote:
Originally Posted by doublea71 View Post

Rockbox will decode high-res files but then down-sample them to accommodate the limitations of the player's DAC

It has nothing to do with limitations of the DAC. It has to do with features like crossfading, and many parts of the code that just assume 16/44.1 (for convenience, I guess). Rockbox will downsample to 16/44.1 no matter what DAP it runs on.

Edit: the latest builds have an option to set playback to either 44.1 or 48 kHz. I've been told that 24 bit playback wouldn't increase sound quality and would require a lot of work, and would also increase memory requirements.
Edited by skamp - 7/9/13 at 3:45am
post #306 of 626

Is the FiiO X3 already available in the USA?

Any impressions about the FiiO X3  bought in the tongue_smile.gif USA?

post #307 of 626

i just preorder one from here http://www.mp4nation.net/?acc=f7177163c833dff4b38fc8d2872f1ec6  free shipping with fedex at usd200

post #308 of 626
Quote:
Originally Posted by skamp View Post


It has nothing to do with limitations of the DAC. It has to do with features like crossfading, and many parts of the code that just assume 16/44.1 (for convenience, I guess). Rockbox will downsample to 16/44.1 no matter what DAP it runs on.

Edit: the latest builds have an option to set playback to either 44.1 or 48 kHz. I've been told that 24 bit playback wouldn't increase sound quality and would require a lot of work, and would also increase memory requirements.


This makes sense to me, otherwise it'd be possible to use a line-out to an external DAC for high-res music.

post #309 of 626

Any comparisons with the Cowon X9.... They are both similarly priced..... Might get either the X3 or X9 to drive a V3... Help?

post #310 of 626
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gryphus0204 View Post

Any comparisons with the Cowon X9.... They are both similarly priced..... Might get either the X3 or X9 to drive a V3... Help?

X3 has much higher output power than X9.....so it would be better for either high-impedance fullsize headphones, or sensitive IEMs.  That said, this power output difference is the main reason for the difference in battery life....something over 10 hours for the X3, and rated 110 hours for X9.

 

X9 has a bunch of  DSP effects built in that some people enjoy and some do not, X3 has Bass and Treble controls.

 

X3 supports more file formats, including high-res files, than X9. X3 does offer more internal storage though.

 

X9 has old-school resistive touchscreen(with additional hardware buttons for volume, play/pause and track forward/back), and X3 has hardware buttons.

 

I can't make a sound comparison, having not heard the X3. Hope this helps.smile_phones.gif

post #311 of 626
Quote:
Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

X3 has much higher output power than X9.....so it would be better for either high-impedance fullsize headphones, or sensitive IEMs.  That said, this power output difference is the main reason for the difference in battery life....something over 10 hours for the X3, and rated 110 hours for X9.

 

X9 has a bunch of  DSP effects built in that some people enjoy and some do not, X3 has Bass and Treble controls.

 

X3 supports more file formats, including high-res files, than X9. X3 does offer more internal storage though.

 

X9 has old-school resistive touchscreen(with additional hardware buttons for volume, play/pause and track forward/back), and X3 has hardware buttons.

 

I can't make a sound comparison, having not heard the X3. Hope this helps.smile_phones.gif

Haha thanks that's a really detailed explanation! But are the X3 or X9 internal storage expandable? Or are they fixed

post #312 of 626
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gryphus0204 View Post

Haha thanks that's a really detailed explanation! But are the X3 or X9 internal storage expandable? Or are they fixed

The X3 is 8GB internal, with card slot, and the X9 is available in 8GB, 16GB, and 32GB internal, all with a card slot.

 

I have the X9 and I do enjoy it. If I was in a better financial situation, I would also like to get an X3 as well, but for now, funds don't permit it. redface.gif

post #313 of 626
Quote:
Originally Posted by hellfire8888 View Post

i just preorder one from here http://www.mp4nation.net/?acc=f7177163c833dff4b38fc8d2872f1ec6
  free shipping with fedex at usd200
Hopefully you saw and used the $10 coupon code from earlier in the thread.
post #314 of 626

i did not use the USD10 coupon but the preorder is attractive enough as it has free shipping fedex world wide and free IEM Brainwavz Earphone (M5 or R1) which easily worth USD30-40

post #315 of 626

I'm trying to figure out which cable to connect an X3  ---->  JH Audio A3  Posted this on the JH 16 pro thread: 

 

EDIT -- got it sorted out . .


Edited by Rico613 - 7/21/13 at 5:17pm
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Portable Source Gear
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Source Gear › [Impression] FiiO X3 – High Fi, Low Price.