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post #31 of 41
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Aha i see now i thought you just bought it haha
No, it was long time ago, and I bought it with some significant discount.
post #32 of 41
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Audio-GD NFB-15.32 is another nice model but I wish it had line-in so that I could use my Xonar DX (I'm a PC gamer too).

That DAC/amp will work great with your DX. Just use the optical out connection from the DX. Unlike when using USB DAC connections which bypass the sound card all together, the sound card still can do digital processing before sending the digital signal to the card. So you are only bypassing the DAC and line out of the DX.
post #33 of 41
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Originally Posted by Jag86 View Post

As a result of a internet search, I found the following models of integrated amplifiers (in alphabetical order):
  • Denon PMA-720AE
  • Marantz PM-6004
  • NAD C326BEE (or C316BEE?) (high headphones' output impedance from datasheet)
  • Rotel RA-10

I'd like to test them to listen how they drive my Tannoys, but I'm not sure I will able to do that. However, I'm pretty sure that all of these amps will sound good, with their slightly different sound signature.
I'm wondering which of them has the "best" headphone output. Has anyone of you more information or has the chance to listen to them?

I recently "downgraded" from an HK 3390 to an Indeed TA2021. Only it wasn't a downgrade in SQ for nearfield listening volumes. Mine is in a computer desktop setup with Ascend Acoustics CBM-170SEs using an ODAC. If that's how you are using your Tannoys, I think your instinct to focus on your headphone setup, first, is probably a good one.
post #34 of 41
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post


That DAC/amp will work great with your DX. Just use the optical out connection from the DX. Unlike when using USB DAC connections which bypass the sound card all together, the sound card still can do digital processing before sending the digital signal to the card. So you are only bypassing the DAC and line out of the DX.

 

Yes, after reading about nfb-15.32 I realized that I can set up this configuration.

I have only some doubts about:

  1. How is Xonar DX optical converter quality?
  2. Is Audio-gd DAC a considerable upgrade from Xonar DX one?
  3. How is Audio-gd build quality?

 

Furthermore, is nfb-15.32 amp section comparable to Asgard 2 one?

 

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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post


I recently "downgraded" from an HK 3390 to an Indeed TA2021. Only it wasn't a downgrade in SQ for nearfield listening volumes. Mine is in a computer desktop setup with Ascend Acoustics CBM-170SEs using an ODAC. If that's how you are using your Tannoys, I think your instinct to focus on your headphone setup, first, is probably a good one.

 

My Tannoys are on two handmade stands of about 20 cm tall, which are on my desk. So yes, it is a nearfield positioning.

Actually I'm pretty happy with my Topping and its Tripath TK2050, but Tannoys are pretty hard to drive (SPL of 86 dB) and sometimes the amp triggers its speaker protection relay without reason. This could be a relay failure though.

If I buy the nfb-15.32, can I connect its line out (fixed) to the Topping line in?

Is nfb-15.32 a nice preamp if I couple it with a final amplifier (such as a Poppulse T150 Pro)?

 

Thank you all for your patience and sorry for this huge amount of questions, but I would like to invest my money in best configuration I can afford :)

post #35 of 41
The DXs optical output will be fine. I haven't heard the nfb-15.32, but I own the DX in one of my computers. Decent SQ for its price, but I can't imagine it will compete with the nfb-15.32 as a DAC. I would imagine that it would be a significant upgrade.

However, I don't own an NFB-12. There's quite a long appreciation/owners thread for the NFB-12 series. Good place to ask more specific questions from people that own it: http://www.head-fi.org/t/524263/audio-gd-nfb-12

Toppings are known for being good t-amps. If you are driving it that hard it is triggering, that's pretty loud for nearfield listening. Perhaps you might want to look into a full sized amp with significantly more power.
post #36 of 41
I have Xonar DG toslinked with NAD T744. I bought it because it has DAC, headphone, and 6+2 channel power amps and FM radio, and it also supports Dolby Digital, Pro Logic, DTS and EARS. The manual says it has audiophile grade DAC/ADC and op-amps. Most importantly I got all that for only 300 euros (plus 50 for cables and 35 for Xonar). I was thinking what kind of sound will I get from that device. Must say I'm positively surprised - sound quality is amazing, so I need to upgrade headphones now. NAD has pre-amp output so I can buy some dedicated headphone amp and have it easily connected. I can also use NAD as surround sound processor, so I just need to buy some good loudspeakers (JBL or KEF was in my mind). Don't know where to start...

I've seen some review on some Denon AVR (then it was $1300) vs this NAD (it was $800 then), and in terms of SQ NAD was better. You won't be able to buy any more any of these (unless you live in Ireland, because there is one remaining in the shop). But I think this generally (at least for me) is some proof that NAD products in general are worth attention. They are hardly available though...

The Xonar DG... well it's toslinked, so SQ should remain bit-equal, but even if not I'd not use it for listening to music anymore. I have tested with Counter-Strike GO, Crysis Wars and Crysis 2, and basically you can hear things in these games like they were really there. No noise, no sibilance - sound is simply perfect. I really need better headphones to start seeing where I could improve.

For music I found nice LG BlueRay drive. I bought it mainly because it can play FLAC's, and it has built-in WiFi. There are some sound setting, and I set to use Bitstream output, but I don't really think I heard any difference from when it was PCM - maybe it didn't change, who knows... Honestly I don't care sound quality is very much perfect. I would like to believe that if you spend way more it can be better, but it is beyond my imagination.
post #37 of 41
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Well... I'm about to buy Schiit Asgard 2 or Audio-gd NFB-15.32

What should I do? :D

post #38 of 41
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Well... I'm about to buy Schiit Asgard 2 or Audio-gd NFB-15.32
What should I do? biggrin.gif

Pick one smily_headphones1.gif

I'm sure either would be a good choice.
post #39 of 41
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Just got Asgard 2.. What a wonderful piece of hardware :D

I'll post my impressions when it will be burned-in.

Could I link its output to the Topping? I've read it would not be a nice idea, because TP22 already has a pre-amp section..

post #40 of 41
It won't hurt anything to hook the TP22 to the Topping. Let your ears be the judge of whether it's a bad idea or not. Just try it with and without the Asgard 2 in the chain before the TP22 smily_headphones1.gif
post #41 of 41
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I followed your advice.. I'm amazed! With Topping's volume set to 3/4 and Asgard's one to about half (low gain), everything seems to have taken life. I'm not able to explain with technical terms.. Sound seems much fuller and linear. Struments separations is much more evident now.

About headphones, I've tried only MS1i for now. Music it's clearly much more linear, but I wait to do more listen sessions to go on with impressions ;)

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