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Originally Posted by kinggs13 View Post
 

No intention of making any modifications to the Titan.
Much appreciated!!

May have more queries once I get my mini to mini and kobiconn cables.

Thanks a lot.

 

Sure, no problems but you'll get a better response posting in the appropriate thread. The IC and headphone cables for the amp/headphone will no longer be an AK120 topic :D.

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Hi, just wondering - when you use the HP P1 with the AK 120 do you know which DAC you are listening to?

Thanks.

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Sorry thread in wrong place, hahaha.

post #6154 of 6313
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Originally Posted by kinggs13 View Post
 

Hi, I want to go balanced with my ak 120 titan.

 

Would like to know how to go about doing it.

I suppose I would need

1) a cable terminated with a balanced plug/are single ended and balanced cables the same, btw?

2) a balanced portable amplifier

 

 

Anything else?

Would appreciate a response.

Sorry if this query is so basic.

Your cable has to have 4 wires in order to terminate to a balanced plug.  DO NOT TERMINATE A 3 WIRE CABLE TO THE BALANCE PLUG AS THIS WILL SHORT CIRCUIT YOUR DAP OUTPUT.

post #6155 of 6313
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Originally Posted by flymetothemoon View Post
 

Your cable has to have 4 wires in order to terminate to a balanced plug.  DO NOT TERMINATE A 3 WIRE CABLE TO THE BALANCE PLUG AS THIS WILL SHORT CIRCUIT YOUR DAP OUTPUT.

That's why I had Ted at Headphone Lounge reterminate my FitEar 000 cable from SE to Balanced. He knows what he's doing and I don't.

post #6156 of 6313
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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post
 

That's why I had Ted at Headphone Lounge reterminate my FitEar 000 cable from SE to Balanced. He knows what he's doing and I don't.

And that is the right thing to do.  Hope you'll get your new cables soon. Cheers

post #6157 of 6313

Hello, 

 

I have a question that i did not seen previously treated. If so, feel free to move it in the appropriate thread.

 

I just get an AK120 Titan after using a AK100 for few months. 

As i am using some iPod too and iTunes, i prefer ALAC encoding than Flac.

 

On the AK120, i do not understand why but when i play a song in 24 bits, for instance 24 bit/88,2 kHz : 

 

- When it is original Flac, it shows 24 Bit and 88,2 kHZ on the AK.

- When the file is first converted without loss in ALAC (in FlacTunes on OSX), it shows 16 bits/88,2 kHz.

 

I have verified, the ALAC file seems ok, it is a bit more heavier than the Flac and in iTunes, it is well recognized as 24 bit file.

 

Is it a display bug or somehow a problem with converting ?

 

Have you experiment this problem ?  

 

Thks.

post #6158 of 6313
Tuncurry,

I've had the same problem. Issue is Flac tunes. I'm using a new converter now, XLD, and everything is fine now.
Edited by onlychild - 7/28/14 at 4:18pm
post #6159 of 6313

Just to clarify - does this mean that a SE cable has three wires and a balanced one has 4?

Thanks

post #6160 of 6313
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Originally Posted by kinggs13 View Post
 

Just to clarify - does this mean that a SE cable has three wires and a balanced one has 4?

Thanks

 

SE (Single ended) - doesn't necessarily mean 3 wires. It could have 4 wires but ultimately terminated to a 3 point connector plug (e.g. 3.5mm, 1/4" TRS). Some cables have 4 wires from earphone up to connector plug and two of the wires merged there to make it a 3 point, but some other cables may merge at the Y-split portion. The only way to find out is to open up the plug to see if there's 3 or 4 wires (with a pair merged there). That's how Saraguie can change his FitEar 000 SE cable into balanced. But for those cables that has only 3 wires at the plug (i.e. the merging point is at the Y-split) then those cannot be converted to balanced. It's easier to buy a whole new balanced cable for the earphone/headphone in such cases.

 

Balanced has 4 (+L, -L, +R, -R). I think XLR connectors may have 3 pins per channel but the 3rd is a ground and unused (usually??).

post #6161 of 6313
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

 

Balanced has 4 (+L, -L, +R, -R). I think XLR connectors may have 3 pins per channel but the 3rd is a ground and unused (usually??).

 

The 3rd connection is for the RF shield, which is a ground of course but usually terminated to the chassis rather than either channel of the amp(s). That's what AK does with that mysterious box on their show demo AK240....they run the shield (ground) to the adjacent 3.5 TRS jack, but only hookup the ground connection of the plug.

post #6162 of 6313
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

 

SE (Single ended) - doesn't necessarily mean 3 wires. It could have 4 wires but ultimately terminated to a 3 point connector plug (e.g. 3.5mm, 1/4" TRS). Some cables have 4 wires from earphone up to connector plug and two of the wires merged there to make it a 3 point, but some other cables may merge at the Y-split portion. The only way to find out is to open up the plug to see if there's 3 or 4 wires (with a pair merged there). That's how Saraguie can change his FitEar 000 SE cable into balanced. But for those cables that has only 3 wires at the plug (i.e. the merging point is at the Y-split) then those cannot be converted to balanced. It's easier to buy a whole new balanced cable for the earphone/headphone in such cases.

 

Balanced has 4 (+L, -L, +R, -R). I think XLR connectors may have 3 pins per channel but the 3rd is a ground and unused (usually??).

This was the way my uber config for single-ended

post #6163 of 6313
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Originally Posted by flymetothemoon View Post
 

This was the way my uber config for single-ended

 

I think most audiophile level cable makers do it that way. The only ones I'm aware of that wasn't dont that way were the cheap consumer non-interchangeable Sony earbuds where it's an uneven Y-split so that one channel cable can go around your neck and the cable to your player drops on one side of the body (note, not talking about the ones with the microphone).

post #6164 of 6313
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Originally Posted by onlychild View Post

Tuncurry,

I've had the same problem. Issue is Flac tunes. I'm using a new converter now, XLD, and everything is fine now.

Thank you. Matthew Leon who made FlacTunes is working on it. It seems like a bad flag issue, he tells me that the conversion maintains the bit depth.

To be followed...

post #6165 of 6313
Has any body in this thread sent the ak120 to Red Wine Audio and add a coax output? Could you please let me know how's the coax output quality compares with optical? smily_headphones1.gif

Also how's the SQ of the coax out compares with other popular DAP (like C4, dx90...)? smily_headphones1.gif

Sorry for ask if I missed something from this thread.
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