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post #4351 of 5999
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Same here. Only the amp is with me now waiting the player, interlink and my Roxanne!!!

let us wait together "patiently", luckily i still have my x3 and jh5 which can temporarily feed my hunger.. hahaa

post #4352 of 5999
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post
 

Lee, I wish you success man but those amps are transportable, I was thinking maybe you would stay in the "portable" section :happy_face1: Good luck then my friend ;)

 

Well I have the T1 amp for that if I want to stick to Portable. But of course I want to use an amp that will make the S mod worthwhile. I see no reason to have such a resolving transport if you are just going to hinder it with a sub-par amp :). Might as well just stick with the stock AK120 then :P. Basically what I'm saying is get the full potential of your investment instead of watering it down. Simply getting this mod done is pretty much destroying the portable aspect of it. Even with a slim amp it is gonna be thick in comparison to a stand alone DAP that is truly portable (Rocoo BA, 3rd ANV). So I would consider it transportable regardless. To take it a bit further, I would think anyone doing such a mod knows they are pretty much forsaking portability in return for the ultimate in sound quality on the go in a transportable package. I'll be shipping out my AK120 to be modded either Monday or Tuesday morning. I just don't consider using a DAP and an amp to be portable. My definition of portable is fitting the device comfortably in your side pocket (and being able to remove it without hassle), not lugging it around in a bag :).


Edited by lee730 - 11/18/13 at 12:40am
post #4353 of 5999
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post
 

 

Well I have the T1 amp for that if I want to stick to Portable. But of course I want to use an amp that will make the S mod worthwhile. I see no reason to have such a resolving transport if you are just going to hinder it with a sub-par amp :). Might as well just stick with the stock AK120 then :P. Basically what I'm saying is get the full potential of your investment instead of watering it down. Anyways simply getting this mod done is pretty much destroying the portable aspect of it. Even with a slim amp it is gonna be thick in comparison to a stand alone DAP that is truly portable. So I would consider it transportable regardless. I'll be shipping out my AK120 to be modded either Monday or Tuesday morning.

i partially agree what u said, yes the ultra portability is gone after modding, but it's still portable :wink_face:

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i partially agree what u said, yes the ultra portability is gone after modding, but it's still portable :wink_face:

 

I consider something that is ultra portable to be like a nano :P. While I could fit the AK120 into my pocket with the UHA6 MKII or the T1 amp it is not easy to put in or remove from my pocket and is quite cumbersome (due to the thickness of the AK120 and amp). I do not consider that portable due to the lack of convenience. If I'm out in public with such a device I honestly can't say I'm totally care free due to carrying around the extra bulk and in that it takes away from what I consider portable. Although it can be carried around easy enough. That is why I label it as transportable as I can carry it with me. Then again I could do the same with the Triad but that would be carrying around a brick (about 2 iphone 4s stacked together in otterbox cases) and would be even more awkward.

 

trans·port·a·ble
transˈpôrtəbəl/
adjective
 
  1. 1.
    able to be carried or moved.
    "the first transportable phones"

Edited by lee730 - 11/18/13 at 1:16am
post #4355 of 5999
From that definition, that makes all rigs, including speaker rigs, transportable...
post #4356 of 5999
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From that definition, that makes all rigs, including speaker rigs, transportable...

 

Well that is if you could pick up the speaker rig ;).

post #4357 of 5999
But only 100 buck more to have balance & SE option, I think should go with it. I'm still thinking how to combine the AK120 + SR-71B together and make it easy to insert or remove from pocket.
post #4358 of 5999
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But only 100 buck more to have balance & SE option, I think should go with it. I'm still thinking how to combine the AK120 + SR-71B together and make it easy to insert or remove from pocket.

 

True but I'm thinking of it from the sound quality POV. From what I gathered from an owner of the S mod (AK120 and AK100) the side jack used for the S mod sounds noticeably better than the line out located on top of the device (originally the HO). So yes you do have the convenience of having both options but from what he told me you would be downgrading the single ended termination in return for a balanced termination. So it just really depends on exactly what you plan to use the device with. If it's mainly balanced then I'd say go for the balanced. But if it's mainly single ended then go fro the S mod. But ultimately I'm going this route because the scalability of this unit is very high and pretty much the limiting factor in most cases will be the actual amp paired to this device. So it's only natural for me to go the route where I can potentially get the maximum sound quality out of the unit.


Edited by lee730 - 11/18/13 at 2:24am
post #4359 of 5999
Solder the interlink wire directly to AK120. tongue.gif
post #4360 of 5999
Well I just shipped my unit to Vinnie today. Can't wait to hear this beast wink.gif.
post #4361 of 5999
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Well I just shipped my unit to Vinnie today. Can't wait to hear this beast wink.gif.


Congratulations! Now the wait begins. 

post #4362 of 5999
Congrats lee, might get mine modded too but first have to wait and see what ak200 and new colorfly dap is going to be like.
post #4363 of 5999
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post
 

 

True but I'm thinking of it from the sound quality POV. From what I gathered from an owner of the S mod (AK120 and AK100) the side jack used for the S mod sounds noticeably better than the line out located on top of the device (originally the HO). So yes you do have the convenience of having both options but from what he told me you would be downgrading the single ended termination in return for a balanced termination. So it just really depends on exactly what you plan to use the device with. If it's mainly balanced then I'd say go for the balanced. But if it's mainly single ended then go fro the S mod. But ultimately I'm going this route because the scalability of this unit is very high and pretty much the limiting factor in most cases will be the actual amp paired to this device. So it's only natural for me to go the route where I can potentially get the maximum sound quality out of the unit.


Hmmmm.... do you really think that the amp in the A&K120 stands up to the dedicated amps in the RSA/ALO range though? As

 

far as it being part of the unit and its native sound I can agree but otherwise I'd say it would be bettered by the others.... that and a 4cm thickness isn't that bad for daily carrying. I'm looking at the iBasso PB2 and having measured them up as a stack its still do-able despite the odd shape of the PB2.

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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post
 

....So it just really depends on exactly what you plan to use the device with. If it's mainly balanced then I'd say go for the balanced. But if it's mainly single ended then go fro the S mod. But ultimately I'm going this route because the scalability of this unit is very high and pretty much the limiting factor in most cases will be the actual amp paired to this device. So it's only natural for me to go the route where I can potentially get the maximum sound quality out of the unit.

 
Lee, I am confused (as usual, lol) if you are after the "max SQ" wouldn't a fully balanced input & output setup be the maximum? What has you convinced that the improvements with balanced would not reward the minimal extra cost it would entail (B Mod + TRRS Plugs + Balanced Input Amp)?
post #4365 of 5999

I think both jacks are seeing the same signal. The side jack is probably a super quality one that Vinnie hard wires to the best spot. Top one may not get the rw bypass mod as it's redundant though the difference shouldn't be very significant in this function.

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