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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

Hi Sean.....And that is for the impedance to be 1 or less than 3?

 

I believe so. There's no DAC change for the RWAK120 but just further reducing the OI and "some other stuff too".

post #3017 of 6125
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

 

I believe so. There's no DAC change for the RWAK120 but just further reducing the OI and "some other stuff too".

I wonder what's next?  I've had to stop subscribing to the 901 thread because it makes me itchy thinking about getting one. LOL  A short time ago I could not imagine myself using anything other than a i~Device based rig.

 

Hey I read your mini to mini shootout.....well done. I wish I could hear the differences in sound like that. I can when it's big changes, like say a mediocre HP or IEM then to the LCD3s or the 334s but not subtle ones.

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In this case let me be the devils advocate and tell you guys that I think Ak200 is just around the corner! 

post #3019 of 6125
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

 

I believe so. There's no DAC change for the RWAK120 but just further reducing the OI and "some other stuff too".

So over $1600 extra just for the RWAK120-S to bypass the internal amp?  I can almost get a HDVD800 for that...

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it will have two pair of 8741 wolfson dac chips. You have to understand that the reason why vinnie charges so much is that he has to cover the cost of the damages that might come about because of his mode. So yes it is reasonable cost however having said that I do not see myself spending such kind of money. 

 

If the current owner of the AK120 are not happy with their gear the smarter think is to sell it than spend more cash on something which is already not cheap in any means. 

post #3021 of 6125
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

it will have two pair of 8741 wolfson dac chips. You have to understand that the reason why vinnie charges so much is that he has to cover the cost of the damages that might come about because of his mode. So yes it is reasonable cost however having said that I do not see myself spending such kind of money. 

 

If the current owner of the AK120 are not happy with their gear the smarter think is to sell it than spend more cash on something which is already not cheap in any means. 

That's very true, and what's $1600 more when you already spend over 1k on your DAP.  My question is that will his mod able to drives high impedance cans (>300 ohms) well?  I am asking this because I do plan on getting the HD800 with the HDVD800 later, but since I am not much of a desktop amp guy, I could put my money on a mod like this instead.


Edited by DrSheep - 8/3/13 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post

That's very true, and what's $1600 more when you already spend over 1k on your DAP.  My question is that will his mod able to drives high impedance cans (>300 ohms) well?  I am asking this because I do plan on getting the HD800 with the HDVD800 later, but since I am not much of a desktop amp guy, I could put my money on a mod like this instead.
I think the 1600 includes the device itself, the modding cost is less than 450. The one which bypass the resistor alone is 250 USD. As far as change will for 300 ohm you don't need to mod your akxx as the damping factor is covered and the extra gain you get cannt make that huge of a difference. Not worth it if you ask me.
Edited by audionewbi - 8/3/13 at 7:58pm
post #3023 of 6125
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post


I think the 1600 includes the device itself, the modding cost is less than 450. The one which bypass the resistor alone is 250 USD. As far as change will for 300 ohm you don't need to mod your akxx as the damping factor is covered and the extra gain you get cannt make that huge of a difference. Not worth it if you ask me.

Good to know, but has anyone here tries to drive the HD800 straight from the AK120?

post #3024 of 6125
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post

Good to know, but has anyone here tries to drive the HD800 straight from the AK120?
The plug used on hd800 suggest it is not an ideal match.
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Have tried it,but not exactly ideal, volume pumped right up to use it. Ok if you travel a lot and want to take the HD800's I suppose.
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Just purchased the AK120 from the Mook Headphone Festival. I've decided to not wait for the docking stand, hopefully I can post some pictures soon.

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I think DSD playback on AK120 is not quiet ready, the heat produced is too much and concerning me alot, and  beside that the battery life has reduced done to 4-5 hours. 
Sure i do hear (at least think I do) improvement over its flac counter part but I think the sweet spot in terms of performance/space is 24/96.

 

The lack of gapless playback and excessive heating and 5 hours battery life is enough for me to opt out of DSD feature of AK120. It would have been nice to have DSD over USB via AK120 but that too is not possible.

 

So for now I am happy with 24/96 and in terms of amping well CK100PRO sounds great out of AK120 so I will stick with that. I was about to order the T5p but Tyll reviews scared me. 

post #3028 of 6125

When I auditioned the AK120 at Mook festival yesterday, I was listening to the Highlife song in DSD format from Jazz At The Pawnshop album.

The sound was just eerily good, reminds me of the SACD version that I used to play on my Bladelius CD player from my previous hifi rig.

But without the ancient fat PS3 player that can rip SACD files, I can only listen to DSD files available from the web.

post #3029 of 6125
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post

Good to know, but has anyone here tried to drive the HD800 straight from the AK120?

As GSArider said, tried it too and results weren't good imho. Have to turn the volume all the way up and even then...


Edited by Steven R. Rochli - 8/4/13 at 6:24am
post #3030 of 6125
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

I think DSD playback on AK120 is not quiet ready, the heat produced is too much and concerning me alot, and  beside that the battery life has reduced done to 4-5 hours. 
Sure i do hear (at least think I do) improvement over its flac counter part but I think the sweet spot in terms of performance/space is 24/96.

 

The lack of gapless playback and excessive heating and 5 hours battery life is enough for me to opt out of DSD feature of AK120. It would have been nice to have DSD over USB via AK120 but that too is not possible.

 

So for now I am happy with 24/96 and in terms of amping well CK100PRO sounds great out of AK120 so I will stick with that. I was about to order the T5p but Tyll reviews scared me. 

 

I agree. With 24/96 converted from DSD, you will be straining to hear any difference. Just enjoy the music etysmile.gif

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