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I am listening to 1.21 + Listrid 1.0 based on Goodvibes recommendations and it sounds good, but I honestly could not A/B...it just takes too much time to switch FW and I forget.

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Does anybody know if the  new firmware will bring anything else apart from not true DSD playback?

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Originally Posted by musicday View Post

Does anybody know if the  new firmware will bring anything else apart from not true DSD playback?

What does 'not true DSD' mean? Is there a write up about what is going to come on the 15th?


Edited by Saraguie - 7/11/13 at 12:45am
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The WM8740 DAC chip Wolfson is not capable of handling native DSD which means DSD has to be converted to PCM on-the-fly by the upcoming firmware.

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What does 'not true DSD' mean? Is there a write up about what is going to come on the 15th?

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Originally Posted by pekingduck View Post

The WM8740 DAC chip Wolfson is not capable of handling native DSD which means DSD has to be converted to PCM on-the-fly by the upcoming firmware.

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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

What does 'not true DSD' mean? Is there a write up about what is going to come on the 15th?

This is sad, they should have told us about this, especially at this price point. And I suppose that will affect the DSD playback sound quality right?

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The WM8740 DAC chip Wolfson is not capable of handling native DSD which means DSD has to be converted to PCM on-the-fly by the upcoming firmware.

Got it. My understanding is there is not a lot of DSD available? I don't think I have any.

Is it really a big deal to have the capability?

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This is sad, they should have told us about this, especially at this price point. And I suppose that will affect the DSD playback sound quality right?

PCM vs DSD is a highly controversial topic...kinda like SS vs tube if you ask me. Besides most, if not all, DSD recordings are actually mastered in PCM (and then converted back to DSD!) so the point is moot :p

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Got it. My understanding is there is not a lot of DSD available? I don't think I have any.

Is it really a big deal to have the capability?

Yeah there's not much DSD available for download and ripping SACD is just a PITA.


Edited by pekingduck - 7/11/13 at 3:44am
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I do not think that a portable ak120 can hear a big difference between 24/192 and DSD.
I'm waiting for this update is to simply use ak120 his collection DSD. (about 20 concerts format dff and dsf).
It's just advertising and marketingspeak Iriver action.
Edited by wladrus - 7/11/13 at 2:34am
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I do not think that a portable ak120 can hear a big difference between 24/192 and DSD.
I'm waiting for this update is to simply use ak120 his collection DSD. (about 20 concerts format dff and dsf).Agree

Agree. Depending on the use (on the go vs in a quiet place), and the iems used, I do not know if most people could distinguish 16/44 vs 24/192, let alone DSD...

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Agree. Depending on the use (on the go vs in a quiet place), and the iems used, I do not know if most people could distinguish 16/44 vs 24/192, let alone DSD...

 

Yes. You are right. I listen to DSD for good home system. You can hear the quality.
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I thought the dac in it didnt support native dsd playing so I assume it converts to PCM? Isn't that a bit of a waste? You're not going to get the same quality as natively playing a dsd file are you?
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

I really don't know Jon. That will be up to you in reality. I have the AK120 which doesn't sound like the RWA AK100 going from memory. So a different firmware may suite you better? In the end it will be up to you which you prefer. With a factory reset it will not delete your music. At least not on my AK120. It will delete your playlists and settings (such as enabled gapless, etc).
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On my stock AK100, factory reset only delete the playlist, settings, etc like lee730 mentioned.
All the songs in the internal storage remains

Aiite, thanks for the info guys. I'll test it when I get home and report back smily_headphones1.gif

Cheers!
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AK120 Firmware 1.00 available for download ;). Courtesy of Wladrus

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tv5nb6qewtfyic3/AK120.hex

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Thank you, lee730. Courtesy of Listrid.

We tested the 1.11 - 1.0 - 1.21. It's okay to install. I like 1.21. 1.0 - not very good for me.


Edited by wladrus - 7/11/13 at 5:08am
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Thank you, lee730. We tested the 1.11 - 1.0 - 1.21. It's okay to install. I like 1.21. 1.0 - not very good for me.

 

I agree I just went back to it and it did sound more on the muddy side with the bass being overly emphasized. So I reverted back to 1.11 with Listrid 2.0 applied. :) Still it is nice to finally have the option to go back and compare for oneself.

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