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post #1276 of 6309

I have not listened to the FitEar MH335DW for a few weeks now.

 

Just got them out to try on the AK120 with the updated FW and........WOW, stunning. This is extraordinary, as before the FW., I found the pairing rather lacking and preferred using the Stock (stock) AK100 ......

 

Happy days........bigsmile_face.gif

post #1277 of 6309
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Originally Posted by robdr View Post

Of course! While they were at it they could have...

 

  • improved the performance of scrolling
  • switched the number designated to each SD card over (makes no sense to me that the top card is 2)
  • provide an on screen explanation of what exactly Pro EQ does to the sound signature
  • increase the size of the tiny scroll bar on the right of the screen. I have no idea whether it can be grabbed and used to scroll quickly through a list of albums because its microscopic
  • scan my library in the background rather than preventing me from listening to anything until it's done
  • improve the boot time

 

And finally, if someone from Astell & Kern could magically fix the microphonics of my IE800's I'd really appreciate it wink_face.gif

 

But I will forgive all of the above because my AK120 sounds sublime. 

 

Yes you can grab it to scroll... works better without the leather case (obviously).

post #1278 of 6309
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Originally Posted by robdr View Post

WOW! You must listen LOUD!!!!

Those are all full sized audiophile incredibly demanding headphones he tried to drive using the 1.6 vrm of AK120. I do not think AK120 was designed to drive large headphones. As I explained before there is really no point in purchasing a small pocket size DAP to only carry around bulky headphones around. The major selling point of AK series is there size and battery life. This is one of the reason why people are taking this over their competitive DAP which cost the same and according to some sound on par or on occasion better. 

post #1279 of 6309
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post

I read veeeeeeery nice things about both the product and iriver. Now the only issue is their pricing mad.gif God d**n it my student wallet.

 

Anyway glad to see you guys liking the new firmware and usb dac option. I must say usb dac is quite tempting for me but anyway there are a lot of months in front of me to get them and probably their price will be reduced a bit at these times I guess, well I hope actually.

I cant say I hear any audible improvement, the only significant change is that I finally have access to the promised DAC feature. This means that at home I can have access to the much large laptop screen and mouse which is much easier to navigate and search with than the DAP itself.

 

Be patient, I am sure as I am typing this AK80 is well in its design stages.

post #1280 of 6309

I have a pair of HD800's plugged into mine right now. Listening to some classical. My threshold for comfortable listening is exceeded when turn the dial over 67. Turning it up to 75 is pretty damn loud (for my tastes anyway). 

post #1281 of 6309

OK. The new firmware does weaken the mid/upper bass to my ears, which leads to a slightly clearer sound with a bit more air and space to fill in and pushes the vocal more forward. Not sure if I really like the bass reduction so far. Need some more time to listen.

 

I think it's actually moving a bit further from a extreme neutral DAP. Haven't found out a good pairing so far with my CIEMs.


Edited by tupac0306 - 6/13/13 at 7:25am
post #1282 of 6309
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Originally Posted by fcandi View Post

 

Hi Tresvigint,

 

last week, I went to a very good Hifi-Store in Berlin with my brand new AK 120 and tried several Headphones: Hifiman HE-6, Sennheiser HD-800, Fostex 600&900, Beyerdynamic T1 and Audeze 2&3. In my opinion, only the Fostex played nicely without any amplifier.

 

Fostex 900:

This Fostex is very clear and exact, but for my taste much to analytical. Somehow the music is split up into its smaller parts and I cannot enjoy the music as a holistic thing. Somehow, the music sounds like many pieces of broken glass. You hear everything, but at the end, its not how it sounds in the concert hall. But it seams to be very easy to drive it, I could put the volume at 1/2 to 2/3 at the AK 120.

 

Hifiman & Sennheiser:

Absolutely not working for me: Too quiet with volume 100% up. Even with the amplifier Fostex HP-P1, it might work with volume up 100%, but I was not convinced.

 

Beyerdynamic T1:

This one was much better, very nice with the Fostex HP-P1, but I found the Audeze much better:

 

Audeze:

I love these headphones. But both sounds much better with the Fostex HP-P1: The LCD2 is a little bit to quiet without the amplifier. The LCD3 is loud enough, but the basses are lacking. At first, I only compared the LCD2 with all the other headphones (with and without the Fostex Amplifier). At the end, I preferred the LCD2 over all other products, but I wished it could be a bit more analytial. Then at the end, I heard the LC3 and this headphone had exactly the missing part.

 

Now, I am sitting here with my Ak 120, the Fostex HP-P1 and the Audeze LCD 3, a nice cable between the AK 120 and the amplifier (audioquest sidney 0,5m) and am stunned with the quality. A concert hall on my head :)

 

One last note: I only hear classical music and a bit of jazz, for these tests I used only 24 bit studio masters, some chamber orchestra pieces, some operas and organ music.

 

Andreas

 

My wallet hates you.... deadhorse.gif  must... resist.......

post #1283 of 6309

Just having a listen right now with a pair of Final Audi Design fi-ba-ss iem's. Sound isn't exactly to my taste, but I can appreciate them for what they are and the pairing with the AK120 is pretty good. Sound is crystal clear, bass is around 50% of my IE800's, mids are about 30% more forward and the highs aren't too bright. Good with female vocal tracks especially.

 

Tried them also via the MBPR and the AK120 as a DAC using Audioirvana and similar results. A lot of detail in the tracks. At the 1k price for these, not sure they're great value though, the cable feels a tad too flimsy for my liking and not sure it could stand up to my everyday use handling of them.
 


Edited by GSARider - 6/13/13 at 7:37am
post #1284 of 6309
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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post

OK. The new firmware does weaken the mid/upper bass to my ears, which leads to a slightly clearer sound with a bit more air and space to fill in and pushes the vocal more forward. Not sure if I really like the bass reduction so far. Need some more time to listen.

I think it's actually moving a bit further from a extreme neutral DAP. Haven't found out a good pairing so far with my CIEMs.

Can IRiver think what kind of sound they would like on their products?
Seem it change sound signature every firmware version
post #1285 of 6309
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Edited by toads - 6/13/13 at 8:55am
post #1286 of 6309

Good question. I find it tends to take some warmth out of vocals and boost the treble a little. But it would be nice to know what their thinking is? What's 'pro' about it?

post #1287 of 6309

i like the sound of ak120

with this... maybe just maybe, more people won't like "normal" ak100 anymore, when comparing ak100 and ak120 IMO

 

ak120 get more power, louder sound, maybe 5 point difference, still not enough for some people, because max volume still not loud enough for some music

not bright like ak100, still not warm like hifiman series 600

 

definitely need amp for some headphone

 

i will wait for my sony xba 40

not satisfied pairing ak120 with he500, sound normal to me, but nothing special

surprisingly not bad when pairing with hd800

post #1288 of 6309
now looking forward to hm901!
post #1289 of 6309
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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post

OK. The new firmware does weaken the mid/upper bass to my ears, which leads to a slightly clearer sound with a bit more air and space to fill in and pushes the vocal more forward. Not sure if I really like the bass reduction so far. Need some more time to listen.

 

I think it's actually moving a bit further from a extreme neutral DAP. Haven't found out a good pairing so far with my CIEMs.


I agree with this. Although I was kinda thinking it made the sound more along the lines of neutral. But in this case I'm not sure if this is to my liking on the 1Plus2s.... On the 8As it does sound better than it was on 1.00 though.... Can we get the 1.00 firmware from anywhere if we want to revert back?

post #1290 of 6309
Yep bass is definitely a lot less, my 7100's sound anaemic compared to last night now! Not good.
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