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post #496 of 3180
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Originally Posted by a_recording View Post

So, a technical question I was thinking about.

 

I'm no engineer but as I understand it that 'plate maze' for the sound essentially routes the low frequency sounds through a very long channel, and because higher frequencies do not bend around objects as well they just end up 'lost in the maze' so to speak.

 

I'm wondering what advantage this mechanical filter has over trying to achieve the same kind of roll-off with the crossover electronics?

 

Also a bass tube with a curve on it - is that the same principle as found in the JVC FX100 / 200?

The high frequencies are passed straight through, rather than bending like bass. Shure are well aware of the technical details. From what I understand, Shure chose a mechanical routing low pass filter because it exerts less collateral effect on the rest of the frequency spectrum, at least vs. crossovers. At this point, no one can say for sure, but the low pass filter is an elegant, if expensive, method. And, it works. I am looking forward to more impressions.

post #497 of 3180
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Originally Posted by chengsta View Post

My first thought is "Wow that's alot!"  Then again, if these new shures SQ can beat other $1,000 universal iems (1plus2, etc), then they have just won the game.  One thing I know they got right though, is the changable filters.  Once again, if its SQ meets the 1k universal competition, then it's just another 1k universal to think about.  I can't really get mad at the price if I think about it that way.

 

I don't like the cheap plastic shell, I've got tons of bad experiences with plastics made in china.  I never liked the westone shells either, they just look plain and ugly, yet they did pretty well. 

 

Now the real question is:  Did I make a mistake buying the JH16 pros?  I'm secretly hoping the new shure 846's will crash and burn! MWUHAHAHAHA!! 

 

What'll be really interesting though, if they combined shures new 'true subwoofer' technology with JH Audio's 'FP' technology! 

Im not even going to worry about the price until there out in the field and some time honoured impressions/reviews are out, Ive had the triple.fi (still have), ie8 and the clear plastic may look cheap but I think shure are doing this for a reason so people can get a idea of the tech inside but Ive got the 535's in bronze and the build quality is pretty quality the nicest Ive come across, also something which was a bit of a problem with the 535 was people breaking the nozzle when changing the tips and this steel noozle setup should solve a old issue.

post #498 of 3180
Why would anyone buy these when actual custom Iems from JHAudio have twice the amount of drivers per monitor for only $150.00 more? $1000.00 for universals? And Shure isn't even that good.
post #499 of 3180

More drivers doesn't equal better sound for more than one reason but knowles and sonion offer a range of bass mid and treble drivers all rated at different sound pressure levels eg. 2 bass drivers vs one large bass driver.

post #500 of 3180
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Originally Posted by Oomingmak View Post

Why would anyone buy these when actual custom Iems from JHAudio have twice the amount of drivers per monitor for only $150.00 more? $1000.00 for universals? And Shure isn't even that good.

from the day 1 i had the idea that shure was pretty over priced... even considering this as well the shure 535's against competitors like SM3 and Westone 4's.. 

post #501 of 3180

I like the 535 not just for the sound signature, but the build quality is pretty top notch but they are expensive but I guess some of that is paying for shures house sound.

post #502 of 3180

I think they will be good but not for everyone, if that is a sonion bass driver in there then they should have low end bass, my customs use a sonion BA setup with bass driver being the sonion big boy which is rated down to 6hz (supposed to be the most powerful in terms of spl in production) and a very slight lift on the low freq band on poweramp with right dac/amp they do go into sub bass mode.

post #503 of 3180
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Originally Posted by Oomingmak View Post

Why would anyone buy these when actual custom Iems from JHAudio have twice the amount of drivers per monitor for only $150.00 more? $1000.00 for universals? And Shure isn't even that good.


I rarely use the expression "lol" but it might be warranted in this case. Guys, if you want to say something in this thread, please read it a bit first and make sure you are not the 1 millionth to say it.

 

Let me give you a hint of what has already been said  AD NAUSEAM:

 

"These are too expensive"

"For 1k I can get customs"

"I do not like Shure"

"The 535 were already overpriced"

"The 535 killed Kennedy"

"Iem manufacturers are mean, they gorge on the blood of audiophiles"

"Do these things go in my ears or elsewhere?"

 

Any non viable analysis on the cost structure of the SE846 or Shure's P&L

post #504 of 3180

$1399 for a pair of IEM is another way of saying "Don't buy me"!!!! or the customers thinking i'm way out of its league!!!!

post #505 of 3180

it actually took me 13 long years to finally own a pair of Shure. they're expensive and i thought i will never own them in my life! once i realized i finally get to own the top of the line or flagship SE535 this year I was raved! Now after learning the advent launching of a new flagship this summer release. i suddenly feel my se535 became old and obsolete!

post #506 of 3180
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$1399 for a pair of IEM is another way of saying "Don't buy me"!!!! or the customers thinking i'm way out of its league!!!!

 

That's why the new Shures don't cost $1,400 — so they can easily be purchased by the masses in most pound shops for $1,000 (or $900).

post #507 of 3180

nah I was going to sell my 535's, but I went to listen to them one last time before I advertised them I released I couldn't, I may have more technically competent stuff around but theres something about shure house sound.

post #508 of 3180

Summa summarum: there´s new tech and the early adopters will pay even if they grind their teeth while doing so. Eventually the low pass filter and the steel nozzle will be mass produced in volume for cheap and the whole SE200-500 lineup will be replaced. Just like the next IE8 successor will be a trickle down version of the IE800. Mark my words :) Sony EX1000 launched at 800 dollars too. What goes up most come down.

 

As for me, I´ll most likely pass the new Shure unless its real street price is closer to 600 or 700 euros. Then I might consider it, but at 1000 no chance. As customers we vote with our wallets. I´ll probably rather get a high end custom at this price range. 

post #509 of 3180

Yes it going to be priced at £999 when it hits the UK, Im kinda off hoping I can find it a bit cheaper somewhere at some point if I like the impressions/reviews, I picked up the 535 well below shures rrp.

post #510 of 3180

Really? That would mean a minimum of 1000 euros on Thomann. Wow... Shure can forget about my money then, but I´ll be following the reviews here for sure :)

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