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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

 

19 out of 20 people on headfi say that they need an amp to properly drive whatever they are listening through. Personally, I think, my SE535 does great from an ipod classic. I sold my C5 and pocketed the $150. I just couldn't hear an improvement, though there was a difference. 

I think most of us prefer not to use an amp. I have had a few to check out but nothing wacky and used a Fiio LOD. The no required amp consideration is part of my IEM selection process and will again be with my next DAP. My IEMs are a benign, nonreactive 28 ohms. The new Shure is 9 ohms with a normal network besides the acoustic woofer low pass. Seems an odd choice for a ground up design and seemingly aimed at <1 ohm amplification. I also thought the 530 was fine sans amp.


Edited by goodvibes - 5/11/13 at 6:51pm
post #482 of 3180

Guys, acoustic low-pass is the norm for multi-BA setups. BAs are extremely sensitive to inductive noise, so a typical low-pass is very difficult to implement. That's why you see that low drivers always have fairly heavy acoustic dampers in front of them. However, that's never enough to create a true <100 Hz low pass. That's where the metal plates of the 846 are an innovation.

post #483 of 3180
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

Guys, acoustic low-pass is the norm for multi-BA setups. BAs are extremely sensitive to inductive noise, so a typical low-pass is very difficult to implement. That's why you see that low drivers always have fairly heavy acoustic dampers in front of them. However, that's never enough to create a true <100 Hz low pass. That's where the metal plates of the 846 are an innovation.

 

tomscy2000,

 

Could you please translate that into English?

post #484 of 3180

Yes I do know but this is kind of unique. Somewhat similar to the 3 dynamic driver JVCs bass loading without the Frankenstein dimensions..

post #485 of 3180
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

tomscy2000,

 

Could you please translate that into English?

 

The Shure is cool. wink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post  Yes I do know but this is kind of unique. Somewhat similar to the 3 dynamic driver JVCs bass loading without the Frankenstein dimensions..

 

I was just addressing peoples' posts in general, not to you?

post #486 of 3180
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...and $100 $300 interconnect cables...

That better give me flying abilities then! I can get a headphone for that price mang.
post #487 of 3180
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

tomscy2000,

Could you please translate that into English?

The stainless still nozzles have a propensity to withstand oxidization with the extruded decombopulator faceplates. With older IEM's the armature flywheel gramus would impede the circumferential flow of the dynaflow creating an unequal bandwidths within the parameters of the specified frequency range. Beyond that, these IEM's should sound really really good!
Edited by Spyro - 5/11/13 at 7:09pm
post #488 of 3180
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

 

The Shure is cool. wink.gif

 

    :)

post #489 of 3180
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

 

The Shure is cool. wink.gif

 

 

I was just addressing peoples' posts in general, not to you?

I wasn't taking offense. Just clarifying and any good info works for me.bigsmile_face.gif

post #490 of 3180
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

The stainless still nozzles have a propensity to withstand oxidization with the extruded decombopulator faceplates. With older IEM's the armature flywheel gramus would impede the circumferential flow of the dynaflow creating an unequal bandwidths within the parameters of the specified frequency range. Beyond that, these IEM's should sound really really good!

Outstanding!
post #491 of 3180
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

Guys, acoustic low-pass is the norm for multi-BA setups. BAs are extremely sensitive to inductive noise, so a typical low-pass is very difficult to implement. That's why you see that low drivers always have fairly heavy acoustic dampers in front of them. However, that's never enough to create a true <100 Hz low pass. That's where the metal plates of the 846 are an innovation.

Thank you for the explanation, I have been wondering about this...

post #492 of 3180
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post


The stainless still nozzles have a propensity to withstand oxidization with the extruded decombopulator faceplates. With older IEM's the armature flywheel gramus would impede the circumferential flow of the dynaflow creating an unequal bandwidths within the parameters of the specified frequency range. Beyond that, these IEM's should sound really really good!

 

I seriously was trying to make sense out the sentences. "decombopulator", was difficult to diggest, but I moved on. By the time I reached "circumferential flow of the dynaflow", I said, hey, isn't he being facetious a bit? I am such an engineer ;).

post #493 of 3180

My first thought is "Wow that's alot!"  Then again, if these new shures SQ can beat other $1,000 universal iems (1plus2, etc), then they have just won the game.  One thing I know they got right though, is the changable filters.  Once again, if its SQ meets the 1k universal competition, then it's just another 1k universal to think about.  I can't really get mad at the price if I think about it that way.

 

I don't like the cheap plastic shell, I've got tons of bad experiences with plastics made in china.  I never liked the westone shells either, they just look plain and ugly, yet they did pretty well. 

 

Now the real question is:  Did I make a mistake buying the JH16 pros?  I'm secretly hoping the new shure 846's will crash and burn! MWUHAHAHAHA!! 

 

What'll be really interesting though, if they combined shures new 'true subwoofer' technology with JH Audio's 'FP' technology! 

post #494 of 3180
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

The stainless still nozzles have a propensity to withstand oxidization with the extruded decombopulator faceplates. With older IEM's the armature flywheel gramus would impede the circumferential flow of the dynaflow creating an unequal bandwidths within the parameters of the specified frequency range. Beyond that, these IEM's should sound really really good!

 

I find it incredibly endearing how every (real) word in your post is spelt correctly except 'steel'.
 
Someone should make a headphone amplifier with a flywheel instead of a battery. *nod nod*
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I find it incredibly endearing how every (real) word in your post is spelt correctly except 'steel'.

I could have sworn that was intentional on his part.

 

It would make a very powerful piece of satire even more powerful if it was indeed on purpose. 

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