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post #2821 of 3042
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acrolinks 

 

FYI - 

 

Acrolink 3.5mm Plugs: LINK

 

Oyaide 3.5mm Plugs: LINK

post #2822 of 3042
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FYI - 

 

Acrolink 3.5mm Plugs: LINK

 

Oyaide 3.5mm Plugs: LINK

Thats the one :)

Looking nice, although the Oyaide has a more industrial look, also very nice.

If I'll make a HE-400 Silver cable ill take the viablue, they look professional


Edited by BaTou069 - 3/23/14 at 1:28pm
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Oyaide Silver Rhodium - LINK

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Hey BaTou069, if you try V4A, let me know how it goes.

 

I remember listening to the LG G2 in the T-Mobile store. There was hissing and a buzzing noise when I touched the screen. All of that will be gone. It's like Foobar2000 with that plug-in that doesn't allow outside sound. When you stop the music, it abruptly goes dead silent (no click, on hiss).

post #2825 of 3042
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Hey BaTou069, if you try V4A, let me know how it goes.

 

I remember listening to the LG G2 in the T-Mobile store. There was hissing and a buzzing noise when I touched the screen. All of that will be gone. It's like Foobar2000 with that plug-in that doesn't allow outside sound. When you stop the music, it abruptly goes dead silent (no click, on hiss).

I downloaded the zip with the APKs inside from XDA, put the right one on the phone and installed it. I guess thats User install and not system. dont know how to install as system I guess. Installed busybox but it was already installed. In short, did as you said and as the XDA thread said.

Now I'm playing music with Poweramp and switching to V4A and playing around with setting... but there is no difference. nothing

I listen directly from the headphone out, so I'm in the Headset Tab. Enabled it, even force enabled it. nothing.

I tried also surround, reverb 1200m2, nothing...strange

post #2826 of 3042

Try uninstalling the V4A driver from the menu options. Restart your phone and open V4A. It should prompt you to install the driver again. Reinstall it and make sure it shows a message saying it was successful. Then restart your phone again. If that doesn't work, you can post the problem in the Viper4Android thread in Portable Source Gear on this forum. I've had a few hiccups with the latest version myself.

 

Another option is to try the V4A in the Play Store. It's the first one (on the list) if you have Android version 4.0 to 4.2 and the third one if you have 4.3

post #2827 of 3042

Oh, here is something I forgot to tell you.  Go into Poweramp menu--Audio--Advanced Tweaks--and uncheck Direct Volume Control. While you are in that menu make sure Audio Thread Priority is set to highest.

post #2828 of 3042
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:p Good thing you tried it Audio, I keep mentioning it over and over again on every thread.  By the way, if your processor is not capable of 64-bit it will only do 32.  Maybe the new apple processor can do 64.  Other than that, there is nothing like it even on desktop software, the software developer is a genius.  I wish the USB Audio Player pro interface was like Neutron with the options.

 

It would great on my Samsung also, it's an S4.  I guess it's friendly with Snapdragon systems.

 

With the Neutron, it's like I don't need an external device to provide better quality.  It's money well spent, much cheaper than an external device for my phone.

 

I still can't believe how good now my Note 3 sound with Neutron player, I also uncheck the use generic driver today and it still works well. I compared with some of the portable amps like Dacport, M8, Pico etc and ZX1. I am still puzzle by this software, how can a software improve the sound without changing the hardware like the DAC, OPamp etc is something beyond me, I am simply amaze. I went back and forth between Dacport  and Note3 with Neutron player today and I hate to say that the Note 3 is at the same league if not better than Dacport with Note 3 having more "omph" on the bass.

 

I have been tweaking Neutron for the past 2 days and finally arose from my wooden chair, and conclude that the Note 3 does not require any amp after all, as its already sound better than some of the amps that I highly respect. It sound so good that I ended up spending 2 nights with ZX1 vs Note 3 and am so relieved that ZX1 hold its ground pretty well fighting the Neutron invasion and that the $800 spent on importing ZX1 is able to put a stop to Neutron player slaughtering almost all of my other portable amps... amps that fought back include the M8 (1ohm). The M8 is able to punch it way out of Neutron invasion by only a slight edge on transients and loudness. All my other amps like the pico slim and Imod were completely wiped out.

 

Can anyone with good knowledge share how this Neutron player works? What did it do to the hardware exactly? Strangely if I did not tweak it like using 64 bit, dither and so on, it sound like stock player but the tweaking makes all the differences and I understand that the phone is at 32 bit and not 64bit but it did change the sound so subtly (I am lost now). Also I am not talking about tonality change here like tweaking EQ that sort of thing, I am referencing the Neutron player's awesome Attacks, the transients, clarity, instrument separations etc..is every bit like having a portable amp/Dac stack.

post #2829 of 3042
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I still can't believe how good now my Note 3 sound with Neutron player, I also uncheck the use generic driver today and it still works well. I compared with some of the portable amps like Dacport, M8, Pico etc and ZX1. I am still puzzle by this software, how can a software improve the sound without changing the hardware like the DAC, OPamp etc is something beyond me, I am simply amaze. I went back and forth between Dacport  and Note3 with Neutron player today and I hate to say that the Note 3 is at the same league if not better than Dacport with Note 3 having more "omph" on the bass.

I have been tweaking Neutron for the past 2 days and finally arose from my wooden chair, and conclude that the Note 3 does not require any amp after all, as its already sound better than some of the amps that I highly respect. It sound so good that I ended up spending 2 nights with ZX1 vs Note 3 and am so relieved that ZX1 hold its ground pretty well fighting the Neutron invasion and that the $800 spent on importing ZX1 is able to put a stop to Neutron player slaughtering almost all of my other portable amps... amps that fought back include the M8 (1ohm). The M8 is able to punch it way out of Neutron invasion by only a slight edge on transients and loudness. All my other amps like the pico slim and Imod were completely wiped out.

Can anyone with good knowledge share how this Neutron player works? What did it do to the hardware exactly? Strangely if I did not tweak it like using 64 bit, dither and so on, it sound like stock player but the tweaking makes all the differences and I understand that the phone is at 32 bit and not 64bit but it did change the sound so subtly (I am lost now). Also I am not talking about tonality change here like tweaking EQ that sort of thing, I am referencing the Neutron player's awesome Attacks, the transients, clarity, instrument separations etc..is every bit like having a portable amp/Dac stack.
You can find the explanation in their website but basically Neutron creates its own environment, it has its own full asynchronous rendering core and works with very low latencies. So basically you're not using the Android audio system and you're substituting it with a better one focused in the critical aspects of the digital playback.
Edited by fermelom - 3/24/14 at 1:17pm
post #2830 of 3042
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You can find the explanation in their website but basically Neutron creates its own environment, it has its own full asynchronous rendering core and works with very low latencies. So basically you're not using the Android audio system and you're substituting it with a better one focused in the critical aspects of the digital playback.


Nice description in a nutshell and thanks for putting it in a more layman way. I will head over there and check it out. This Neutron player is really something..

post #2831 of 3042
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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post
 

Oh, here is something I forgot to tell you.  Go into Poweramp menu--Audio--Advanced Tweaks--and uncheck Direct Volume Control. While you are in that menu make sure Audio Thread Priority is set to highest.

I did the reinstall with all the reboots, and tried first the speakers. This works, and I'm really amazed. Too bad it doesn't work with headphones. Now I know that I need to switch forum for this issue :)

Thanks for everything


Edited by BaTou069 - 3/25/14 at 1:18am
post #2832 of 3042
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Originally Posted by BaTou069 View Post
 

I did the reinstall with all the reboots, and tried first the speakers. This works, and I'm really amazed. Too bad it doesn't work with headphones. Now I know that I need to switch forum for this issue :)

Thanks for everything

 

That's odd. I hope you figure that out and can try that deep sub-bass thing with the 846 thru the headphone out. It's really something. I think the free software V4A makes an Android phone into a (sub-$1000) boutique DAP killer.

 

Oh yes, the 846. This is the 846 thread. Between cables/connectors, a software player, and Viper4Android, I don't think the 846 has been mentioned for a while.

 

I thought there was something unique about the 846 sub-bass capability so I connected my IE8 to my V4A enhanced Note 3 and discovered the IE8 can do the sub-bass thing as well. I then took the IE8 out in the truck. That was a disaster similar to the UE900 (BA but weak tips) and Ultrasone IQ. As quiet as the 2014 Frieghtliner engine runs, the engine and wind noise still destroys non-isolating earphones. The 846 dispels all noise (with my hybrid triple flange tips) to the point where I can hear sounds tapper off to the end in the truck. The 535 is not as isolating using the same tips.

post #2833 of 3042
You use the stock shure triple flanges? Wow, for me they go too deep into the ear. Not sure how to modify them to be gentle to my ears.
Another issue I have with the tips: shure seem to have changed a bit the sizes. Maybe my ears wore off from frequent use, but once I was M and now I need L tips for good isolation.
Also the new tips have some kind of grill, will take pics when back from work

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The grill is Shure's version of a wax guard.  I also need to use a larger size than normal.  For me it is because the 846 is larger than my ear cavity so it is pushed forward and crushes one side of the tip.

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Yes, I use the Shure triple flange tip with another kind of tip on the stem. I forget the name of the other tip (on my breakfast mat there). I think I got it at Radio Shack. Sometimes I use foam tips on the stem, but I have to remove those to soak my tips in alcohol.

 

The backfill helps in isolation but it also helps stability as well. If you look at BA customs, they are solid material. They aren't flimsy and thin. In my opinion, a more solid thick tip provides a more solid musical note with better tone and timbre. But again, that's just my opinion.

 

You can cut off the front tip if it is causing you problems. I have narrow canals so it is perfect for me.


Edited by truckdriver - 3/25/14 at 4:53am
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