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That's glad to hear.

Btw, I wish to use foam ear tips but they just alter the sound too much. Is it just the case for shure olives or all foam eartips? Otherwise I might give some comply foam a shot.

I have tried all of the Comply tips and I agree they alter the sound. I suggest the Westone Star Tips order the assortment pack to find your size.

Thanks I will try them out. To all 846 owners, I can't find the cleaning tool, was one even provided?
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I don't remember seeing a cleaning tool in mine either. I will look when I get home. 

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Is the Shure SE846 better than the Shure SRH 1840.

 

I tried the Shure SRH 1840 and it annihilates the Shure SE535. The difference is huge. :eek:

 

If the Shure SE846 is better than the Shure SRH 1840, I'm ordering it :P


Edited by ubs28 - 9/7/13 at 5:51am
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Could udauda confirm this? I am not too familiar with BAs response but that does seem very sharp roll off to be natural.

 

It's fascinating to see the trolls coming up at the surface all suddenly though ;). 

 

It's fascinating to see how people that claim to hear smallest details in silver cables or amps that measure equally, cannot even find out if their earphone can put out 12 kHz or reproduce the sound of a violin naturally.

 

You generate two tones. One 9kHz (just to go sure) and one 12kHz and then you compare them in loudness.

Or if that's too difficult, there are thousands of tone generator apps that cost 0.99 Cent, something that isn't even worth mentioning after spending thousand bucks on a SE846 and another open end on cables "to bring out the mids".

 

It does look like the test just stopped putting out sounds after 10 kHz, however, uduada should have plenty of experience with measuring earphones.

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Unfortunately it is not that simple as human physiology comes into play. No one can hear above 20,000 hertz and most over 30 cannot hear above 14,000 hertz. I am lucky at 46 to hear barely 14,000. So any test using an app and the 846s is automatically biased by the listener and his or her age and hearing.
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Ultrazino, read up loudness curves and come back again. Still, for kicks, I just fired up tone gen pro on the iphone. Low and behold, I don't notice any severe roll until 14kHz, that's using the generator at 20% volume, which is the level I listen to (probably around 60-65dB SPL).

I can very hear 15.5kHz clear and loud when increasing the volume to 50%. It quickly rolls of after that but that might also be due to iphone dac and circuitry for all I know.

I use a Stax 009 as part of the home rig, if the 846 was that blatantly deficient, it should be previous obvious and it's not...

Now if you'll excuse me, there are better things to listen to than a tone generator smily_headphones1.gif.
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I dunno, highs for me are kind of hard to judge in terms of roll off by ear, partly because of the knowledge that we have limited hearing up there. It's almost like a compensating bias. The graph doesn't really disagree with you and I don't see raw data; the OW compensated curve shows that there's output until about 15khz just like you say. Isolated it's there, but how there would it be in a song where with sound being played near the loud end of the dynamic range at say 100hz and 2Khz while playing a 15khz sound?

Your last sentence got a chuckle out of me. smile.gif
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Thanks, that's settled then. We need to wait for new measurements. Or until they're released internationally...

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Thanks, that's settled then. We need to wait for new measurements. Or until they're released internationally...

Yes, because then there would be people who's ears (and machines) we could rely on. No one in specific... rolleyes.gif
Edited by vwinter - 9/7/13 at 7:11am
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Yes, because then there would be people who's ears (and machines) we could rely on. No one in specific... rolleyes.gif

I guess Asia and The US are not international. :-)
Edited by spook76 - 9/7/13 at 8:26am
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Arnaud,

Great suggestion. I downloaded Tone Generator Pro and running it through the RSA Protrctor clearly heard the tone at 20,000 hertz at 75% power at low gain through the SE846.
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Arnaud,

Great suggestion. I downloaded Tone Generator Pro and running it through the RSA Protrctor clearly heard the tone at 20,000 hertz at 75% power at low gain through the SE846.

 

Now I am impressed!

 

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No one can hear above 20,000 hertz and most over 30 cannot hear above 14,000 hertz. I am lucky at 46 to hear barely 14,000.
 

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Now I am impressed!



Please note my test confirmed the 846 was capable of sounds at 20,000 hertz not that I could normally hear them with my admittedly impared (due to age and a mispent youth at too many rock concerts) hearing.
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 I ....clearly heard the tone at 20,000 hertz at 75% power at low gain through the SE846.

 

I call BS......unless your mother had 4 legs.....woof lol

post #2115 of 3180
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Arnaud,

Great suggestion. I downloaded Tone Generator Pro and running it through the RSA Protrctor clearly heard the tone at 20,000 hertz at 75% power at low gain through the SE846.

Instead of just running a specific tone, see If you can manually sweep the tone. Try that and see if you can get a similar result by going up from like 1Khz.
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