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post #1936 of 3180
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Do get a demo. It really is subjective and maybe you would love it...

 

I concur. I had a different reaction to kkcc in re. to FitEar vs. the latest 846. While it is sometimes difficult to get consensus on over the ear phones, iems are yet another bag of worms. It starts with the fit / tips and major differences between peoples ear canal I suspect.

 

To make matters worse, these sub-10 ohms multi-drivers iems sound totally different when using various daps / amps upstream. The funny thing is you got much better chance to make these sound proper out of a low z-out ipod touch 5 than many of so called "high fidelity" portable amps designed to drive 300 ohms cans and other orthos...

post #1937 of 3180
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 I had a different reaction to kkcc in re. to FitEar vs. the latest 846.

Ok, pray tell what your reaction was....? I for one, would like to hear your impressions too, please.

post #1938 of 3180
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Originally Posted by burtomr View Post

Ok, pray tell what your reaction was....? I for one, would like to hear your impressions too, please.
I'm kind of in agreement with Arnaud on this too. I've been a long TG!334 fan buying it twice even. But this time, I personally feel the SE846 has a greater sense of spaciousness. I can't comment on the rest of the FR thoughts as it was a quick 10-15 demo. But the spatial imaging was what noticed first over the 334.
post #1939 of 3180
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post

Thanks Java. As much as I love the Westone Star Tips I am always willing to take good advice. I just ordered the assortment pack of the ProGuard tips.


Have you tried the Westone Star Tips?

Yes, as soon as I knew about 'em, I tried the Star and True-Fit tips. This was well after I'd been using the EarPortz for a very long while. As great as the Predator DAC/amp > W4 > EarPortz sounds, I'm always up for trying something that could be even better. I should've known, though. I think the Star tips are an improvement over the similar type flexi gray Shure tips. But since trying Sensorcom's dual flange, and then finding the right EarPortz, I think a lot of it comes down to the larger opening in those two tips. They both flange out into a larger opening into the ear than any of the normal Shure/Westone type tips. I've never really gotten along with foam tips, but had to at least try the True-Fit... and really don't care for them much at all. They may sound okay, but I can't get used to having to squeeze them down, insert in the ear, and then waiting for 'em to open back up... and wondering if they did open back up fully.

I will say, it took me a month or two to figure out what to do and how to do it using the EarPortz. I wasn't completely sold at first. The first ones I bought were the mediums, which were too small. I really think the EarPortz run pretty small in size relative to getting good results. I normally use mediums, but have to use xLarge EarPortz. I think people who really do have xLarge ear canals probably won't be able to get a good seal unless they modify the EarPortz a little. But for everyone else... I bet getting a size or two larger in the EarPortz than what you normally get will probably be best. A lot could depend on how your ear is shaped just past the opening, too, as the EarPortz go pretty deep, and angle back towards your eardrum. But they have a big bore opening and face back more directly onto your eardrum. Which is why, if you have a good sounding driver... I think it'll make any universal with great sounding drivers sound so much better. With the RSA Mustang or Predator into the W4, the EarPortz just opened up a very warm, quite big sounding low end, and really silky, smooth high end... that isn't even close using any other tip. So I would guess it might be possible, if a universal is a little harsh or overly bass heavy to begin with, the EarPortz could conceivably make them sound even worse. So, with what I've heard so far about the SE846... that even though there's a sub, it's not close to being bass heavy... and the mids are good, and the highs better than the SE535 by possibly a small margin... the EarPortz will hopefully help as much with them as they did with the W4... which should make them about the perfect IEM for me. The Ray Samuels amps are a little on the warm side, too, which is kinda my preference. So I'm hoping the SE846 sounds as good as the W4 in the mids and highs, with maybe just a touch more sizzle on the top end, and give some really tight but defined but big sub lows and low end, and warm but just a little less congested in the lows and low mids than the W4. Just those small changes would make me completely satisfied with 'em. So, I'm preparing myself for them to not be as perfect as I want them to be, trying to keep my expectations to a minimum. But you know, inside I'm really hoping they'll be just enough of an improvement over the W4 in the areas I think they will be to make them almost perfect for me (using the EarPortz, of course... but if it takes another tip, it takes another tip... but I really don't think there is a better one).

Expect (vs W4)
-Fuller, Warmer Mids (Still with clarity)
-Highs are customizable (The filter nozzles are not a gimmick)
-Plenty of Subbass and Midbass
(Rmb to let them burn in-- the demo (burned in)set and my purchased set sounds very different in bass quantity)
-Midbass may sometimes sound a little on the heavy side (steal limelight from mids) but this problem can be solved by a cable swap.

I'm one of those using the national amp and my thoughts are that the 846 (balanced filter) are quite dark with the national amp, will find time to try it with the treble filter.

The national amp came FOC so I might as well take it and use it.

Hope this helps.
post #1940 of 3180
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Originally Posted by arnaud View Post


To make matters worse, these sub-10 ohms multi-drivers iems sound totally different when using various daps / amps upstream. The funny thing is you got much better chance to make these sound proper out of a low z-out ipod touch 5 than many of so called "high fidelity" portable amps designed to drive 300 ohms cans and other orthos...

X2. The latest itouch 5 is simply sublime, much better than many other audiophile dap, iPhone and iPad when driving low impedance armature iems.

I would expect a great pairing with the se846.
post #1941 of 3180
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Originally Posted by burtomr View Post

2X 

At least to me, I don't find it to be x2 better than 334 having owned 846 for 3 weeks since it first landed in Singapore.

What I feel is 846 sounded more real while 334 sounded more engineered which made the latter sounded with more tonality and airy.

YMMV
post #1942 of 3180

Received an email today from B&H that my order has shipped. They are also showing in stock for anyone that is interested, at least right now.

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Originally Posted by noahbrown View Post

SHURE SE215 has already blown me out love to try this new baby form this Amazing Company

You do noe the price difference is almost 1000.
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It looks like a spam post to me
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It looks like a spam post to me

Meaning?
post #1946 of 3180
Few posts only, male nick but female pic, post that makes no sense and is grammatically off. Yup, looks like a spammer. A mod should check it out.
post #1947 of 3180

Or maybe English isn't his primary language? (i.e. a lot of us are NOT from the States nor use English as our mother tongue...). I also have the SE215 and I'd love to try these new ones from Shure... long time Shure fan -- full size headphones.

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I just received confirmation that my 846s will arrive Monday. The big, unanswered, question left is why the hell is it called the "846". Logically following the 215, 315, 425 then 535 it should be 645 or even the 635. Does anyone know why Shure named it the 846?
post #1949 of 3180
Anyone here try to ask for an IEM demo at B&H? biggrin.gif
post #1950 of 3180
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post

I just received confirmation that my 846s will arrive Monday. The big, unanswered, question left is why the hell is it called the "846". Logically following the 215, 315, 425 then 535 it should be 645 or even the 635. Does anyone know why Shure named it the 846?

Read it some where in this thread ... 8 refers to its class/series ... 4 for the number of drivers and 6 something about ita configiration

That is if memory doesn't fail me
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