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Originally Posted by fermelom View Post


The ratio SQ/Price is not linear. If your set up is around $100 when you hear a set up of $200 you could tell that it's sounds two times better but a $2,000 set up doesn't sounds two times better than a $1,000. When you're in cosumer grade audio products, it's a lot of things than can easily be improved with an obvious impact in SQ but when you're scaling to Audiophile/Reference SQ you start to look for exotic material and extreme solution to get a little improvement. I am positive that those improvements are real, I'm just saying that as the price increase there's less room for improvement in SQ.

Under economics it would be defined as the law of diminishing returns. haha

 

Just got mine pre-ordered really hope they don't disappoint me and for its price i'm kinda expecting a lot from it.

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Price really has nothing to do with sound quality.
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yupp no doubt that price isn't directly proportional to SQ but with high price you expect.... and that is just merely my expectations ... furthermore shure's sound appeals to me. no one in the right mind would pay **** loads of money and expect crap ... bet it goes the same for yourself

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Originally Posted by Muzeick View Post

Price really has nothing to do with sound quality.

 

Often it doesn't, but at times, unfortunately, it does. Let's not talk about the SM3...

 

I suggest, if you can at some point, you try the excellent and pretty underrated Sony MDR-7550 (aka MDR-EX800ST in Asia), which can be had for a lot less than the original retail price of $375 (€150 / ~$200 recently), and performs better than quite a few $400+ IEMs.

 

EDIT: Oh, and the 7550 is made in Japan.


Edited by music_4321 - 7/20/13 at 7:17am
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Originally Posted by Kunlun View Post

It's as much the stability in the ear on stage as it is total isolation. Plus, the tuning requirements for stage use (bass presence, lead instruments/vocal need to be clear in the mix, and the need for non-fatiguing treble) are different than the tuning that's often found in audiophile iems.

I'm well aware but mixing boards often have EQ and I've never heard a Shure that didn't have good mid presence. This one is supposedly bass enhanced as well. Without hearing it, I can only comment on my isolation experience with a se530 vs my custom.

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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post

I believe what qualifies for stage usage actually varies quite a bit depends on what type of musician one is and what frequency ranges would he/she need to monitor most, how much bass is need, and if ambient noise is required etc.  From what I heard with the se846 demo it seems to be fairly all-rounded that would make quite a good studio or production monitoring.   At this price point, I believe musicians/performers would have a lot of more customized/specialized options for them.
I wonder what you've heard because none of the impressions so far made me believe the SE846 is useful as a production monitor.
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I wonder what you've heard because none of the impressions so far made me believe the SE846 is useful as a production monitor.

 

No need to wonder.  I heard the Shure SE-846  ksc75smile.gif

 

Maybe you should listen to it yourself and state your own impression.  Personally I am never able to form any judgement or views just based on impression I read online.   I can only provide subjective views on gears I have actual experience with.  

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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post

No need to wonder.  I heard the Shure SE-846  ksc75smile.gif

 

Maybe you should listen to it yourself and state your own impression.

 

Ah, sorry. I don't keep track of usernames. But this is from your impressions:

 


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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post
Shure's transient responses, and the bass, are way too slow for any faster paced music across different genres
Resolution and sound stage is also disappointing.
I feel the bass of the Shure is more impactful ... It is also the perfect upgrade for existing 535 users who wanted more bass. 
 
Doesn't sound like a monitoring tool at all.
Too much bass to be neutral (more bass than SE535) and maybe possibly noticeable delay, resolution and soundstage possibly not worth the price tag.
Add this to the other impressions, basically saying the same but adding "still the best I've ever heard" but also mentioning the treble extension does not seem to be improved from SE535.
 

Sorry, but that's all the information I have right now. This will change once it's available to all. BTW, when is the official release date in Europe?

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Originally Posted by Ultrazino View Post

Sorry, but that's all the information I have right now. This will change once it's available to all. BTW, when is the official release date in Europe?

Shure Eu says end of the summer. Take it as the way you want happy_face1.gif They don't give any information on pricing either.

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Shure’s SE846 takes home gold VGP award

Published: 15 Jul 2013

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JAPAN: Shure’s SE846 sound isolating earphone was awarded the annual VGP (Visual Grand Prix) Summer Gold Award, which is described as ‘one of the most desired and respected prizes in the Japanese consumer electronics market’.

‘The SE846 pushed the frontiers of in-ear earphones,’ commented Mr Orihara, a judge for the Lifestyle A/V sectional committee. ‘A customisable sound signature with changeable nozzles is indeed great fun for audiophiles.’

The SE846’s low-pass filter was another feature that earned praise from the panel.
‘The best part of the SE846 is the low-pass filter,’ confirmed Atsushi Takahashi, exclusive judge for the Lifestyle A/V sectional committee. ‘The developers imagined unprecedented sound and achieved it with great technical challenge.’

Similarly, Kenji Nomura, exclusive judge for the Lifestyle A/V sectional committee echoed: ‘The innovative low-pass filter demonstrates Shure’s technical capabilities.’

The SE846 Earphones carry a one-year limited warranty and are currently shipping in Asia Pacific. Held by Ongen Publishing since 1984, the VGP award has contributed to the development and vitality of the A/V industry in Asia.

- See more at: http://www.proaudio-central.com/articles/pro-audio-asia/Shures-SE846-takes-home-gold-VGP-award#sthash.tcBPl5L4.dpuf
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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

I own customs but it wouldn't surprise me if Shure Olive dense foam tips had better isolation. If you haven't tried them, you'll be surprised.

Unfortunately foam tips have way to much sound damping. The sound became so muddy when I used comply tipes with the tdk BA200s... But boy, do they isolate great!

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Hey guys, I was just wondering what is the closest sounding thing to the 846. As I would wish to have a gist of its sound and the discount on the 846 would expire once the demo arrives. Thanks guys!
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Originally Posted by Ultrazino View Post

Ah, sorry. I don't keep track of usernames. But this is from your impressions:


Sorry, but that's all the information I have right now. This will change once it's available to all. BTW, when is the official release date in Europe?

Well then I guess we can agree to disagree on our views/experience on what can and can't be a monitor.

To take things back to their original context my subjective comments on se846 is on stock cable with regards to comparison with TG334 out of the AK120 and HM901 in case some missed them and as such should be taken in a relative sense. Also, I noted the 846's performance improved with better cable like a gold/silver alloy I also demoed the 846 with as below:


Edited by kkcc - 7/23/13 at 2:08am
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You just saw 4 drivers in there... wink.gif
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post

To take things back to their original context my subjective comments on se846 is on stock cable with regards to comparison with TG334 out of the AK120 and HM901 in case some missed them and as such should be taken in a relative sense. Also, I noted the 846's performance improved with better cable like a gold/silver alloy I also demoed the 846 with as below:
 

 

Just switch to EarPortz tips for about $20-$30... that'll make WAY more difference than blowing several hundred $$$ on a boutique cable.

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