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Originally Posted by Sonic Ecstasy View Post

@spook76 As a current owner of the Shure SE535, I too have wondered what sort of difference aftermarket cables can bring to the already balanced and lush sound signature.

I then purchased the furutech aftermarket cable from eBay and noticed - after A/Bing with the stock cable - that it increases the brightness and sparkle of the SE535.

Did you notice any mild or significant difference between your stock cable and the pure OCC silver aftermarket cable that you purchased?

I do not want to spark a debate about cables but in my humble opinion the pure silver OCC cable made a material difference. Is it night and day, of course not but the clarity from top to bottom was tightened and the detail is noticeably improved. Some say pure silver brightens the sonic signature, I feel it does not brighten the sound but increases the detail which some as interpret as added brightness. What truly amazed me was the 535 had a great deal more depth that proper cables can bring out.

The one caution I make is that with the improved clarity you definitely need a minimum of 320 bit rate music and the best quality recordings as that makes the biggest difference. Is it worth the $200 for pure silver cables, that depends on your budget but I could not be happier with mine. Another thing I caution you on is if you use an amplifier with your portable rig you will notice the lack of transparency in an low end amp with silver. If you want to discuss it further feel free to send me a private message.

FYI my avatar is a picture of my SE535 SE with the 24 gauge OCC silver cables
Edited by spook76 - 6/5/13 at 6:11pm
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What? Have we moved on to cables because we are done with the price?wink_face.gif

 

Here's an odd cable story. I have the original cable that came with my SE535 from 2010 and the cable that came with the warranty replacement in 2012.  And, the 535 sounds a little different with these seemingly "identical" cables. Well, they look the same but they don't feel the same. The original feels slightly rough (when you slide your fingers along the cable and it tangles easily). The new cable feels thicker and smoother and does not tangle.

 

The 535 sounds ever-so-slightly better with the original cable but that could be due to a variety of reasons....

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What? Have we moved on to cables because we are done with the price?wink_face.gif

Here's an odd cable story. I have the original cable that came with my SE535 from 2010 and the cable that came with the warranty replacement in 2012.  And, the 535 sounds a little different with these seemingly "identical" cables. Well, they look the same but they don't feel the same. The original feels slightly rough (when you slide your fingers along the cable and it tangles easily). The new cable feels thicker and smoother and does not tangle.

The 535 sounds ever-so-slightly better with the original cable but that could be due to a variety of reasons....

Nah Truck I was just answering a question and let's face it the 70+ pages of whining about the price is and was getting tiresome.
post #1099 of 3180
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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post

What? Have we moved on to cables because we are done with the price?wink_face.gif

 

Here's an odd cable story. I have the original cable that came with my SE535 from 2010 and the cable that came with the warranty replacement in 2012.  And, the 535 sounds a little different with these seemingly "identical" cables. Well, they look the same but they don't feel the same. The original feels slightly rough (when you slide your fingers along the cable and it tangles easily). The new cable feels thicker and smoother and does not tangle.

 

The 535 sounds ever-so-slightly better with the original cable but that could be due to a variety of reasons....

Yes, silver cables do make an audible difference to me, even with a ~$25 USD hand-made one.

 

320 kbps is an overstatement. This isn't the right thread, but 256 kbps VBR is good enough and 320 kbps would be a waste of space per se in that sense. Heck, I heard the difference while playing chiptune music at 192 kbps.

 

Silver cables with a K 701 sounded OK, but too bright for me. Silver cables with a SE215, SE535, and consequently the SE846 (based on current impressions) makes sense.

post #1100 of 3180
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Yes, silver cables do make an audible difference to me, even with a ~$25 USD hand-made one.

320 kbps is an overstatement. This isn't the right thread, but 256 kbps VBR is good enough and 320 kbps would be a waste of space per se in that sense. Heck, I heard the difference while playing chiptune music at 192 kbps.

Silver cables with a K 701 sounded OK, but too bright for me. Silver cables with a SE215, SE535, and consequently the SE846 (based on current impressions) makes sense.

I do feel 320 bitrate makes a difference but you are correct this is not the right forum for that discussion. As for the silver cables, I am not just speaking about just a LOD or interconnect (as you discuss in your video) but the actual replacement cable for the 535.
Edited by spook76 - 6/5/13 at 6:55pm
post #1101 of 3180
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Yes, silver cables do make an audible difference to me, even with a ~$25 USD hand-made one.

320 kbps is an overstatement. This isn't the right thread, but 256 kbps VBR is good enough and 320 kbps would be a waste of space per se in that sense. Heck, I heard the difference while playing chiptune music at 192 kbps.

Silver cables with a K 701 sounded OK, but too bright for me. Silver cables with a SE215, SE535, and consequently the SE846 (based on current impressions) makes sense.

I do feel 320 bitrate makes a difference but you are correct this is not the right forum for that discussion. As for the silver cables, I am not just speaking about just a LOD or interconnect (as you discuss in your video) but the actual replacement cable for the 535.

Yes I know, but I figured the same kind of sound would get translated to headphones' cables.

 

I just realised I quoted the wrong person in my previous post as I had meant to quote your post instead, hahaha.

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@spook76 Your response was much appreciated. I use a sansa fuse with flac compression level 0 files so an amp is simply out of the question for me with the Shure SE535.

I must say, when I first received the news of the Shure SE846 annoucement, my initial thought was to sell my SE535 and immediately begin saving up. Let me just say that after reading about the MSRP being £949 here in London and $1,250 in the US that I don't intend to spend anything above £600 for these.
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^how much you pay for your 535's?
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From discussion with one rep at the tokyo audio show, cable is slightly different from se535, at both ends. What I remember from the difference is the jack molding beeing a bit more recessed to fit into most dap. There was something about the plugs on the earphone side, but I don't recall the details.

There was one aftermarket cable maker from Japan trying a prototype cable on one of the 846 while I was there though. Since I doubt they would have had early access to the design, I suspect you will still be able to use 535 cable and other aftermarket cables with the 846.

 

My number one complaint in the modern world of protected smartphones is plugs that are too fat for cases :/

 

The Phonak plug is perfect in that respect as it is catwalk model thin. Or maybe case manufacturers just need to create inclines around headphone port to allow all earphone jack plugs to fit. Hmm.

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If you want to be a true audiophile, you're not supposed to use a smartphone with a $1,000 phone; you've got to use a $1,000+ DAP with it. End of story.

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If you want to be a true audiophile, you're not supposed to use a smartphone with a $1,000 phone; you've got to use a $1,000+ DAP with it. End of story. /s

Fixed. biggrin.gif
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@UnityIsPower I paid £224/$333 for my SE535, now you can understand why I think it's outrageous for Shure to demand £949 for their new flagship.
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The price of the SE846 may be a little annoying but it is not “outrageous” because Shure doesn't (and can't) demand that you purchase it. You can always always always speak-with-your-wallet and NOT buy it.

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If you want to be a true audiophile, you're not supposed to use a smartphone with a $1,000 phone; you've got to use a $1,000+ DAP with it. End of story.

 

Haha, talking about coincidence... wink.gif  I just posted this in a different thread:

 

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Briefly tried my FI-BA-SS with a fellow member's RWAK100 yesterday and they sounded warmer than from any other source I've tried. That left me so puzzled that I PMd him today, asking if the EQ might have been on (it wasn't). First the Tera Player, now the RWAK100... seems like the FI-BA-SS and audiophile DAPs don't get along well. But then again, they sound stellar from my boringly normal Galaxy S3.

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I'm new to earphones.  Just how long does it take to get used to having something crammed inside my ear canal?

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