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post #1051 of 3046
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

The First SE846 ad


http://shureuk.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/se535-vs-se846-whats-the-difference/


This is maybe a slight concern:

"The SE535 features triple high definition microdrivers made up of one dedicated tweeter and two woofers. This delivers highly detailed sound, great clarity, and spacious rich sound. However, those who like their music a little more bass heavy might be left wanting."

The ad looks like some central heating advert.

post #1052 of 3046
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Originally Posted by uchihaitachi View Post

The ad looks like some central heating advert.
Lol. Nice one. But it does looks like what you described!
post #1053 of 3046

I remember a similar advert from calgon or finish for laundry/dishwasher tablets. 

post #1054 of 3046
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

The First SE846 ad


http://shureuk.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/se535-vs-se846-whats-the-difference/


This is maybe a slight concern:

"The SE535 features triple high definition microdrivers made up of one dedicated tweeter and two woofers. This delivers highly detailed sound, great clarity, and spacious rich sound. However, those who like their music a little more bass heavy might be left wanting."

 

What do you mean?  What concern?   That the SE535 doesn't give subwoofer bass?  Everyone already knows that, it's been out 3+ years.                                       

 

First, SE535 already delivers more bass and slam than W4 or UE900 so it should really be good enough for most except for bass heads.  I'm sort of a bass head and find SE535 more EQ friendly than W4 or UE900 so I DO EQ in a bit more bass and find the overall sound sig fabulous.  And the "star" tips bring out all the treble.

post #1055 of 3046
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post                                      

 

What do you mean?  What concern?   That the SE535 doesn't give subwoofer bass?  Everyone already knows that, it's been out 3+ years.

 

First, SE535 already delivers more bass and slam than W4 or UE900 so it should really be good enough for most except for bass heads.  I'm sort of a bass head and find SE535 more EQ friendly than W4 or UE900 so I DO EQ in a bit more bass and find the overall sound sig fabulous.  And the "star" tips bring out all the treble.

 

Okay, Spyro, you're a big fan of the SE535 — cool! A couple of things, though:

The SE535 has been out 3 years, not 3+ years.

You say, "the SE535 already delivers more bass and slam than W4" — from memory, I don't believe that is actually the case (I owned both, though didn't have both at the same time to do a direct comparison. However, I did a direct comparison with the UM3X and much preferred the latter). I personally found the SE535's bass inadequate, unconvincing, a bit too lean; I had issues with a the upper mids / lower treble, which I found a bit unnaturally bright at times and on some recordings a bit grainy / unrefined. Add to that the pretty poorly designed swivel mechanism / connectors and a very stiff and microphonic cable. I put my SE535s up for sale in less than 24 hrs after I got them.

It seems more people prefer the W4 over the SE535, though that, of course, doesn't mean the former is necessarily better than the latter, but just pointing out that there seems to be more interest in the Westones, or people like me who have tried both and prefer(red) the Westones.

Your repeated attempts to claim 'the SE535 is the best of the lot' is rather misleading because you insist that's a fact — they may certainly be the best to you—great!—but they're certainly not the best to several / many others.

post #1056 of 3046
Would like them to 1. Make the nozzle adjustable. 2. Remove the memory tube that loops around your ear. 3. Make the cable to iem socket smaller and/or more ergonomic. Also, one that doesn't swivel would be nice. 4. Yup, less stiff cable.
Edited by UnityIsPower - 5/30/13 at 5:58pm
post #1057 of 3046
The SE535 (I believe) suffers from a not so optimal nozzle angle. I think it causes some users to perceive that they have a good seal when they actually don't have one. Thus, people post about "lack of bass" and strident upper mids.

Shure marketing suggests (up to) 37 db of isolation. That (to me) means it was tuned to perform under a vacuum seal. And, to my ears, it does indeed perform well under a vacuum seal. Also, as Spyro says, the SE535 is quite EQ friendly. Where as it's harder to find that optimal spot between nice bass and (overly mid-bass) boom with the IE8, it's easy with the SE535 (one setting works for everything).

I hope with the SE846 Shure corrects the nozzle angle.
post #1058 of 3046
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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post

The SE535 (I believe) suffers from a not so optimal nozzle angle. I think it causes some users to perceive that they have a good seal when they actually don't have one. Thus, people post about "lack of bass" and strident upper mids.

Shure marketing suggests (up to) 37 db of isolation. That (to me) means it was tuned to perform under a vacuum seal. And, to my ears, it does indeed perform well under a vacuum seal. Also, as Spyro says, the SE535 is quite EQ friendly. Where as it's harder to find that optimal spot between nice bass and (overly mid-bass) boom with the IE8, it's easy with the SE535 (one setting works for everything).

I hope with the SE846 Shure corrects the nozzle angle.

Good post. It's another aspect of the se530 that I preferred over the se535.

post #1059 of 3046

Yah, used to se215, and moving to se535, thinking offcource it will fit as perfectly as 215, only to realize the nozzle angle is all different. Wonder if it is to like it was in se215 on this new 846.

post #1060 of 3046

was looking to treat my Dad to some IEMs and thinking about the shure SE535 as I have these and so far very happy with the sound and fit.   But now I am thinking.....does this sound bad......maybe upgrade mine to the new SE846 and he gets a nice not too used, run in pair of SE535!!!    Is that a tad cheeky???   Is the upgrade from 535 to 846 really noticeable?

post #1061 of 3046
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Originally Posted by Whippler View Post

Yah, used to se215, and moving to se535, thinking offcource it will fit as perfectly as 215, only to realize the nozzle angle is all different. Wonder if it is to like it was in se215 on this new 846.

my main issue fro moving form the 215s to the 535s was that the bump in the rear of the housing made it a bit painful for me to push into my ears at times. apart from that, love them to death.
post #1062 of 3046
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Originally Posted by kerrys30 View Post

was looking to treat my Dad to some IEMs and thinking about the shure SE535 as I have these and so far very happy with the sound and fit.   But now I am thinking.....does this sound bad......maybe upgrade mine to the new SE846 and he gets a nice not too used, run in pair of SE535!!!    Is that a tad cheeky???   Is the upgrade from 535 to 846 really noticeable?
Hey, I am sure your father would appreciate the 535's enough. As for how the 846 sounds, nobody knows yet.
post #1063 of 3046

cool thanks....will keep checking posts for first reviews......didnt mention that was also gonna treat him to a vamp verza to really get him some good sounds so either way with new or used 535s he should be getting a good system :)

post #1064 of 3046
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

 

Okay, Spyro, you're a big fan of the SE535 — cool! A couple of things, though:

The SE535 has been out 3 years, not 3+ years.

You say, "the SE535 already delivers more bass and slam than W4" — from memory, I don't believe that is actually the case (I owned both, though didn't have both at the same time to do a direct comparison. However, I did a direct comparison with the UM3X and much preferred the latter). I personally found the SE535's bass inadequate, unconvincing, a bit too lean; I had issues with a the upper mids / lower treble, which I found a bit unnaturally bright at times and on some recordings a bit grainy / unrefined. Add to that the pretty poorly designed swivel mechanism / connectors and a very stiff and microphonic cable. I put my SE535s up for sale in less than 24 hrs after I got them.

It seems more people prefer the W4 over the SE535, though that, of course, doesn't mean the former is necessarily better than the latter, but just pointing out that there seems to be more interest in the Westones, or people like me who have tried both and prefer(red) the Westones.

Your repeated attempts to claim 'the SE535 is the best of the lot' is rather misleading because you insist that's a fact — they may certainly be the best to you—great!—but they're certainly not the best to several / many others.

 

I would have let your post slide but you just struck a nerve.wink.gif.   One of my biggest pet peeves on HF is people flat out saying IEM A is better than IEM B.  It pisses me off and I DON'Tt do it because it is of no help to anyone.

I am always talking in context that assumes I PREFER A over B (never saying it is BETTER)  and more importantly, will elaborate why I think that way.

 

I've been here 10 years and have spent probably $10,000 on IEM's through this journey.  I have been helped by many and my objective of my presence here is to learn and help other people's learning curve as well so, perhaps, they don't have to spend as much as I did to find their niche.  After 10 years I feel I have an obligation to be a straight shooter and to try to help people out.  I always said....read posts and follow posters.  In doing that you can identify certain posters that have the same likes or dislikes as you and when combining experiences among the masses and using that information....it can REALLY shorten the learning curve to a persons audio nirvana.

 

Regarding bass on UE900, W4 and SE535:   UE900 fizzles out quick, not a contendre at all. Distorts at even moderate volume which is so obvious I would almost consider it a design flaw.     W4 has decent bass but if you are the type of person that likes to really crank it up (me),  the W4 will start sounding really taxed or strained.  Not necessarily distorting but feeling veryclose to that.  But same volume with SE535 it is not breaking a sweat with exact same quality bass according to my ears.  Throw in the MUCH clearer mids with the Shure and I am dumbfounded why it doesn't get more praise? Yes, for many it is the treble but the star tips literally fix that issue.

 

But I really don't care.....I found my HF universal nirvana.   SE535 + westone star tips + Ibasso T3 analog + Ipod 160G Classic.    I feel I am pretty picky about my sound (having spent $10K to find it)  and going on 3 months..... I am floored every time I put this combo in my ears.

 

Sorry to tangent the thread....carry on....  (If I win the lottery SE846 will be the first thing I buy)

post #1065 of 3046
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

 

I would have let your post slide but you just struck a nerve.wink.gif.   One of my biggest pet peeves on HF is people flat out saying IEM A is better than IEM B.  It pisses me off and I DON'Tt do it because it is of no help to anyone.

I am always talking in context that assumes I PREFER A over B (never saying it is BETTER)  and more importantly, will elaborate why I think that way.

 

I've been here 10 years and have spent probably $10,000 on IEM's through this journey.  I have been helped by many and my objective of my presence here is to learn and help other people's learning curve as well so, perhaps, they don't have to spend as much as I did to find their niche.  After 10 years I feel I have an obligation to be a straight shooter and to try to help people out.  I always said....read posts and follow posters.  In doing that you can identify certain posters that have the same likes or dislikes as you and when combining experiences among the masses and using that information....it can REALLY shorten the learning curve to a persons audio nirvana.

 

Regarding bass on UE900, W4 and SE535:   UE900 fizzles out quick, not a contendre at all. Distorts at even moderate volume which is so obvious I would almost consider it a design flaw.     W4 has decent bass but if you are the type of person that likes to really crank it up (me),  the W4 will start sounding really taxed or strained.  Not necessarily distorting but feeling veryclose to that.  But same volume with SE535 it is not breaking a sweat with exact same quality bass according to my ears.  Throw in the MUCH clearer mids with the Shure and I am dumbfounded why it doesn't get more praise? Yes, for many it is the treble but the star tips literally fix that issue.

 

But I really don't care.....I found my HF universal nirvana.   SE535 + westone star tips + Ibasso T3 analog + Ipod 160G Classic.    I feel I am pretty picky about my sound (having spent $10K to find it)  and going on 3 months..... I am floored every time I put this combo in my ears.

 

Sorry to tangent the thread....carry on....  (If I win the lottery SE846 will be the first thing I buy)

When did music_4321 View Poststate flat out that one IEM A is better than IEM B? music_4321 View Postjust made some comparisons.

And additionally, he stated it that more people prefer W4 over SE535 in the end. Seems true.

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