Originally Posted by music_4321
Okay, Spyro, you're a big fan of the SE535 — cool! A couple of things, though:
The SE535 has been out 3 years, not 3+ years.
You say, "the SE535 already delivers more bass and slam than W4" — from memory, I don't believe that is actually the case (I owned both, though didn't have both at the same time to do a direct comparison. However, I did a direct comparison with the UM3X and much preferred the latter). I personally found the SE535's bass inadequate, unconvincing, a bit too lean; I had issues with a the upper mids / lower treble, which I found a bit unnaturally bright at times and on some recordings a bit grainy / unrefined. Add to that the pretty poorly designed swivel mechanism / connectors and a very stiff and microphonic cable. I put my SE535s up for sale in less than 24 hrs after I got them.
It seems more people prefer the W4 over the SE535, though that, of course, doesn't mean the former is necessarily better than the latter, but just pointing out that there seems to be more interest in the Westones, or people like me who have tried both and prefer(red) the Westones.
Your repeated attempts to claim 'the SE535 is the best of the lot' is rather misleading because you insist that's a fact — they may certainly be the best to you—great!—but they're certainly not the best to several / many others.
I would have let your post slide but you just struck a nerve.. One of my biggest pet peeves on HF is people flat out saying IEM A is better than IEM B. It pisses me off and I DON'Tt do it because it is of no help to anyone.
I am always talking in context that assumes I PREFER A over B (never saying it is BETTER) and more importantly, will elaborate why I think that way.
I've been here 10 years and have spent probably $10,000 on IEM's through this journey. I have been helped by many and my objective of my presence here is to learn and help other people's learning curve as well so, perhaps, they don't have to spend as much as I did to find their niche. After 10 years I feel I have an obligation to be a straight shooter and to try to help people out. I always said....read posts and follow posters. In doing that you can identify certain posters that have the same likes or dislikes as you and when combining experiences among the masses and using that information....it can REALLY shorten the learning curve to a persons audio nirvana.
Regarding bass on UE900, W4 and SE535: UE900 fizzles out quick, not a contendre at all. Distorts at even moderate volume which is so obvious I would almost consider it a design flaw. W4 has decent bass but if you are the type of person that likes to really crank it up (me), the W4 will start sounding really taxed or strained. Not necessarily distorting but feeling veryclose to that. But same volume with SE535 it is not breaking a sweat with exact same quality bass according to my ears. Throw in the MUCH clearer mids with the Shure and I am dumbfounded why it doesn't get more praise? Yes, for many it is the treble but the star tips literally fix that issue.
But I really don't care.....I found my HF universal nirvana. SE535 + westone star tips + Ibasso T3 analog + Ipod 160G Classic. I feel I am pretty picky about my sound (having spent $10K to find it) and going on 3 months..... I am floored every time I put this combo in my ears.
Sorry to tangent the thread....carry on.... (If I win the lottery SE846 will be the first thing I buy)