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post #1036 of 3180

I want to share this:

 

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I have re-watched the video by Jude and I somehow do not understand the brilliance of the innovation and the genius of Shure's R&D dept.

 

It seems the SE846 is based on the SE535, developed as a result that the competition stuffs four drivers into the same housing and thus sells better. So Shure added an additional bass driver but noticed it muddies up the frequencies. To free the additional driver of mids and highs, a four inch intestinal was included, so only bass comes through.

 

Shure then realized the longer sonic distance lifts the sub-bass further off from the music. This feature is sold as a revolutionary subwoofer and costs 500 $.

 

Is this correct? Or where is the error in my train of thought?

 

Official reply by Shure:

 

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"Is this correct? Or where is the error in my train of thought?"

 

 

Actually correct! The advantage - or uniqueness: two pure subwoofers are being used. Other IEM bass drivers use bass/mid drivers.

 

 

The use of low-pass achieves clean and dry lows - like I have not yet heard in our own in-ears.

Why do you raise concerns about the temporal delay? We are talking about frequencies below 75 Hz. If it should really be 10cm (I cannot verify this number in my documents), then I'd expect a phase angle of ca. 8° or 0,3 ms.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Jürgen Schwörer
Applications Engineer
SHURE Distribution GmbH

 

Translated by me. Source (Sorry about the bad formatting. It shows correctly in the edit.)

 

Some thoughts:

1. While Shure claims that other companies use bass/mid drivers, this is fairly generalized because I can think of some right now (universal and custom) that do not.

2. I read very little improvement over the SE535 except for two subwoofers. The main concerns of the SE535 were rolled-off treble, fatiguing mids and very limited soundstage.

3. The delayed bass is supposed to be unnoticeable. That might actually be very true. However, I'd expect an unhealthy dose of rumble.

4. Did Shure just confirm that they charge 500$ for the subwoofer feature?

 

It's nice to see Shure commented. I am still curious about the product but I am almost absolutely sure they will not please me as I listen to a lot of Classical, Jazz and Vocal.

 

I just wanted to share. Have a nice day!


Edited by Ultrazino - 5/28/13 at 5:20am
post #1037 of 3180
Soooo... you're not impressed then?

It's a tiny frickin intestine. A high precision tiny intestine. This is probably a skynet quality tiny intestine. And it does something! How is that not impressive by itself?

I'd be curious to see if you could get past your bias even if you heard it.

Are they putting in a delay for the other frequencies? I get that it's probably not worth it but the brain in capable of some impressive processing so I also wonder how different it would sound compared.
post #1038 of 3180
sounds great to me! you get se846 and less back problems as a result! lmaoo
post #1039 of 3180

As I have preordered 846 already, the least thing I want is a tonality just like IE800 (too much bass). 

I would rather have flat deep bass than bumped mid-deep bass no matter how good the quality is. Hope shure can do it right this time.

post #1040 of 3180
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Originally Posted by czqdtc View Post

As I have preordered 846 already, the least thing I want is a tonality just like IE800 (too much bass). 
I would rather have flat deep bass than bumped mid-deep bass no matter how good the quality is. Hope shure can do it right this time.

But are you able to hear it though? When I'm outside on the sidewalk, I tried boost frequencies around 32Hz. I can't tell unless I boost at least +5dB, which then sounds bloated.
post #1041 of 3180
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But are you able to hear it though? When I'm outside on the sidewalk, I tried boost frequencies around 32Hz. I can't tell unless I boost at least +5dB, which then sounds bloated.

what do you mean by saying am I able to hear it o_O

My hearing is so sensitive that I usually listen at super low volume. I found both IE8 and IE800 to have too much bass.

post #1042 of 3180

I'd have thought at least one pre-order candidate would have expressed concern over June becoming August. Perhaps I'm just late to the release month change discussion.

post #1043 of 3180
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I'd have thought at least one pre-order candidate would have expressed concern over June becoming August. Perhaps I'm just late to the release month change discussion.

Where did you hear this?

post #1044 of 3180
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Where did you hear this?

 

I saw it here http://www.shure.com/americas/news-events/coming-soon/se846-sound-isolating-earphones

post #1045 of 3180
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Thanks for the info! I actually pre-ordered a pair thinking it would be here in June...

post #1046 of 3180

I had a pair pre-ordered, I contacted earphone solutions and verified the new ship date of August.  A rep. stated they were expecting July for shipping and Shure was saying August to be safe.  I decided to cancel my pre-order since I wanted them for when I go on vacation in late June. 
 

post #1047 of 3180
The First SE846 ad


http://shureuk.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/se535-vs-se846-whats-the-difference/


This is maybe a slight concern:

"The SE535 features triple high definition microdrivers made up of one dedicated tweeter and two woofers. This delivers highly detailed sound, great clarity, and spacious rich sound. However, those who like their music a little more bass heavy might be left wanting."
Edited by dleblanc343 - 5/29/13 at 9:08pm
post #1048 of 3180

The next paragraph.^^^

"This is where the SE846 comes into its own. Thanks to the patented quad high definition microdrivers, listeners can look forward to true subwoofer performance and sound for a low end that is second to none."

post #1049 of 3180

psssh is it jus me or these thangz r ugly as hell lool

post #1050 of 3180
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Originally Posted by pwnzorzz View Post

1000usd?!

Doesn't really scream value 

sure it does.. plastic value..wink.gif

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