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post #766 of 1277

Ok I'm back to just to be polite to a few posts:) Don't lynch me!!

 

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Originally Posted by Hailin View Post
 

 

Thanks LugBug1 for your review we all need a reminder now and then that everyone hears differently. 

Thankyou :) And that is so true! I would also add, that although I was comparing them to mid price headphones (K701/HD600, I was only doing this because of the hype surrounding these that they are as good (or better) to some folks. But taste is everything in this hobby.   

 

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Originally Posted by kstuart View Post
 

Lugbug1 is an experienced listener, so I think some of his observations must be due to one or more of:

 

* Not allowing any burn-in time at all (some dynamic drivers - such as Shure - are more grainy out of the box)

 

* Not trying my mod of a piece of tape to hold the sliders (although yeah, the quality should be better so that you should not have to do).
 

* Reading other comments and so did not plug it into one of his Kenwood or Pioneer amps

 

* Not moving the ear pieces up and down or backwards or forwards a little, to get the best response.

Burn in is something that is so hard to prove... I defo believe in warming up any audio component, but that is different. I find most components sound better after at least half an hour. But there is also a sound difference with some headphone pads too as they mold to your face over time and cause more of a seal. The reason why I don't believe in burn in with moving coil dynamic drivers, is that something moving through air shouldn't be affected over time like other mechanical moving parts where friction is involved. But this is such a grey area and still can't be proved by science. So its always going to be a subjective experience whether true or not. And I believe you my friend!  

 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

^^ You really don't want him to plug into one of those vintage amps. That is unless he likes to see smoke coming from the drivers. :eek:  ...seriously. 

I did try them with my Nad integrate as this has a low mute button. Just to see how well the impedance compensator worked. To be fair the sound character didn't change much, only darker because of the sig of the amp. But the volume level went right down. This means they weren't getting fed enough current and I would be close to frying them If I turned them right up! 

 

 

 

Also just to say.. 

 

I think a whole day spent with a headphone is enough time to evaluate it. It may not be enough time for it to grow on you... And I certainly don't dislike it!  It's just it was not above average for me (so unfortunately 2 stars it had to be, because 3 stars would have been above average) Also, I'm not a gamer or watch films. I'm a music lover. 20 years of listening and collecting classical music (my dads fault). I'm also admittedly becoming more of an audiophile snob hahah.. But this comes with the hobby I'm afraid. And owning a headphone such as the HD800's for the best part of a year is bound to have an impact on how you judge SQ no matter how much you try to be objective in regards to price performance etc with other cans. So in that respect I may very well have been unfair to the Sony's subconsciously.

 

I also bought the K701's (3rd time) at the same time as the MA900's and for me it was no contest. But as always its down to taste in sq. Music preference is also a very important factor. Amps, sources etc goes without saying in regards to how a headphone will perform as well. The Necosoundlabs amp I used with the MA900 is a fabulous amp with nothing but stellar reviews. I have upgraded opamps that make it even smoother than what it is stock and it is a very neutral sounding SS amp. Its as good as any Schiit amps I've heard. So I don't believe my amp had any part in them not being winners with me. 

 

So I'll just sit here on one side of the tree with my K701's on, while you guys sit on the other side with your MA900's. We all love a nice big soundstage! Only you guys love your more forward mids and like my extension and less forward sound. Happy days!!    

post #767 of 1277

I dont think few negative impressions changes anything for me on MA900 ..and not even worth repeating their negative impressions here...  I'm also a classical fan and I prefer ma900 over 880,598 and most of the AKG lineup including 701..  but I dont bash the other headphones that I dont like on their appreciation threads... if you dont like, move on ... thanks..

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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post



Also just to say.. 

I think a whole day spent with a headphone is enough time to evaluate it. It may not be enough time for it to grow on you... And I certainly don't dislike it!  It's just it was not above average for me (so unfortunately 2 stars it had to be, because 3 stars would have been above average) Also, I'm not a gamer or watch films. I'm a music lover. 20 years of listening and collecting classical music (my dads fault). I'm also admittedly becoming more of an audiophile snob hahah.. But this comes with the hobby I'm afraid. And owning a headphone such as the HD800's for the best part of a year is bound to have an impact on how you judge SQ no matter how much you try to be objective in regards to price performance etc with other cans. So in that respect I may very well have been unfair to the Sony's subconsciously.

I also bought the K701's (3rd time) at the same time as the MA900's and for me it was no contest. But as always its down to taste in sq. Music preference is also a very important factor. Amps, sources etc goes without saying in regards to how a headphone will perform as well. The Necosoundlabs amp I used with the MA900 is a fabulous amp with nothing but stellar reviews. I have upgraded opamps that make it even smoother than what it is stock and it is a very neutral sounding SS amp. Its as good as any Schiit amps I've heard. So I don't believe my amp had any part in them not being winners with me. 

So I'll just sit here on one side of the tree with my K701's on, while you guys sit on the other side with your MA900's. We all love a nice big soundstage! Only you guys love your more forward mids and like my extension and less forward sound. Happy days!!    

In the end it all comes down to preference and we respect your opinion, even though we don't fully agree with it. Enjoy your K701's smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by appsmarsterx View Post
 

I dont think few negative impressions changes anything for me on MA900 ..and not even worth repeating their negative impressions here...  I'm also a classical fan and I prefer ma900 over 880,598 and most of the AKG lineup including 701..  but I dont bash the other headphones that I dont like on their appreciation threads... if you dont like, move on ... thanks..

I had moved on... Only you's kept discussing it and my name kept getting mentioned so I politely replied to the relevant posts. People who buy headphones go to their relevant threads to hopefully gain more information on them. Good and bad, I've always been happy to read the negatives as well as the positives as you can build a better picture that way. Otherwise I wouldn't have posted the link to my review in the first place. 

 

You might not post negatives about headphones on appreciation threads but lots of head-fier's do, as most of the time there is nowhere to do this that is still active. You've read the hype, you've heard the headphones, you then want to have your say. It's what its all about! It would be very boring if all we ever did was praise our fave headphones without any input from others with different tastes and opinions.

 

I'm moving :)

post #770 of 1277

as far as I remember I posted some negatives about this headphone too, I didn't mean that you can't post negative impressions on a impression thread,that's just silly...anyway I respect your personal preference, if you enjoy 701s sound signature, then that's just great .. I personally don't like 701,880.... but I don't call them below average, just because I don't like them.. according to my hearing they all are same tier headphones with different sound signatures..  if you think ma900 is a below average headphone, then Jude, me, and many more here must have below average hearing... 


Edited by appsmarsterx - 11/26/13 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

^^ You really don't want him to plug into one of those vintage amps. That is unless he likes to see smoke coming from the drivers. :eek:  ...seriously. 

I did try them with my Nad integrate as this has a low mute button. Just to see how well the impedance compensator worked. To be fair the sound character didn't change much, only darker because of the sig of the amp. But the volume level went right down. This means they weren't getting fed enough current and I would be close to frying them If I turned them right up! 

I'm not sure where this myth comes from.

 

Turn the volume knob of your Pioneer down to zero.  Plug them into the headphone jack.   Turn the volume knob up slowly.

 

Everyone should do this 100% of the time anyway.

post #772 of 1277

I already know I am going to like the ma900s now because the $20 ma100 is more tonally correct to me than the AKG K612s that I recently tried LOL

post #773 of 1277

I'm still a day away from a more comprehensive review, but I will say that the new Schiit Vali tube hybrid amp ($119) works just fine with the MA-900 (if you order one, be sure to read the whole page, including the part about microphonics).  Very nice bass response and generally a fun sound.

post #774 of 1277

Please post a link once the review is up kstuart.

post #775 of 1277

Are there any online retailers that I can purchase these from for <$200? These were around $160 several months ago and its ridiculous that the priced increased 1.5x since then.

post #776 of 1277
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Originally Posted by lolspops View Post
 

Are there any online retailers that I can purchase these from for <$200? These were around $160 several months ago and its ridiculous that the priced increased 1.5x since then.


It's called "December". ;)

 

Having said that, probably Beach Audio is the lowest priced established seller.

post #777 of 1277
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Originally Posted by donunus View Post
 

Please post a link once the review is up kstuart.

see:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/685162/new-vali-schiit-amp/1485#post_10030487

post #778 of 1277

Just got mine in the mail today, and I have to say I love them. Far better sound then I expected (not sure why as they have so many positive reviews).

 

As someone with mostly closed back experience, I have to say I really enjoy the fact that I can listen to them for hours, take them off, and not feel like I just listened to headphones for hours.

post #779 of 1277
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kstuart View Post
 

I am beginning to think that the real reason that Sennheiser headphones are so beloved is their grasp of ergonomics, rather than superiority of their drivers (although those are very good as well).  All of the non-Sennheiser headphones that I have owned have had hugely varying response by moving them slightly on my head.  The MA-900 is no exception - I can get the bass and the soundstage to vary hugely by moving them up or down or frontward or backward by even a little.   The Alpha Dog headphones come with a sheet of recommendations by Dan, and he says to allow the headphones to be lower than you would otherwise think, and I can confirm that helps the sound quality.  Those headphones can be good or great depending on how they fit.  The Shure SRH-1840 were even more sensitive to fit, and the massive stiff yoke is not designed to fit a lot of heads well.

 

In contrast, you grab a pair of Sennheisers, put them on, and they naturally are in the right spot.  People talk about their comfort, but the same aspect of their design helps them to have the same sound for everyone who tries them.


Absolutely Yes !!!

post #780 of 1277

Anyone think it would be stupid going from hd 600's to these?  I got my hd 600's for $300 and will get the ma900's for ~$200.  I really enjoy the 600's, but I don't find them as comfortable as many have said.  Also my creative z can't power them well enough, as they sounded far better on a schiit magni I tested.  Another needed purchase just further diminishes the value of the them.

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