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post #976 of 3470

Using the Anzu CIEM with XLR cable, Silver Widow from Toxic cable , and the DAC is X-Sabre, the Master 9 is now fully balanced

man so clean!! and the sound stage is epic!! i feel like i got more than HD650!!!  , high volume and still clean <3  thanks for going fully balanced

i gave it around 5 hours to make my brain get used to the new sound, the treble extend like crazy and still smooth!! so is the mids, as i said the sound stage is super!! not the CIEM alone its the setup too.

I am happy with that super Treble and Awesome forward warm mids!! the bass is less punchy than the UM Mentor yet i asked for it to be like this, but its still have the body and there, so i don't lose fun, not much of bass in my J-pop list anyway :P 
 

 

Thanks again peter!! 

post #977 of 3470
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Originally Posted by Shini44 View Post
 

Using the Anzu CIEM with XLR cable, Silver Widow from Toxic cable , and the DAC is X-Sabre, the Master 9 is now fully balanced

man so clean!! and the sound stage is epic!! i feel like i got more than HD650!!!  , high volume and still clean <3  thanks for going fully balanced

i gave it around 5 hours to make my brain get used to the new sound, the treble extend like crazy and still smooth!! so is the mids, as i said the sound stage is super!! not the CIEM alone its the setup too.

I am happy with that super Treble and Awesome forward warm mids!! the bass is less punchy than the UM Mentor yet i asked for it to be like this, but its still have the body and there, so i don't lose fun, not much of bass in my J-pop list anyway :P 
 

 

Thanks again peter!! 


Thank you for fun project I'm so happy we (me and LE) have met your expectations :) Happy listening - enjoy!

post #978 of 3470
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Originally Posted by Shini44 View Post
 

i am using Silver Widow cable, XLR 4pin btw since my X-Sabe + Audio-gd Master 9 are balanced using XLR cables :P

the Treble as Peter said isn't harsh at all.

will update my impressions tomorrow or by the end of the day ^^  just wanted to tell you people that the Treble is listenable and smooth too!! so most of you did assume wrong when they saw the graph lol.

 

That's awesome that he was able to create just want you wanted! The 1+2 is a little too much treble for me over the long haul but it is pretty good sounding treble indeed.  Probably the ER-4S is the best treble I've ever heard and I've been on an unsuccessful hunt for that in a more comfortable form factor. :frown:

post #979 of 3470

This morning I opened my email box and saw that :

 

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Recently developed Harmony 8 offers an advanced electro-acoustic design coupled with 8 balanced armatures creating smooth lush and relaxed sound. While this signature is pleasing and non-bothering it may not satisfy customers looking for high-end IEM with more aggressive sound and highs extension.

Harmony 8 Pro is equipped with the same drivers and acoustic terminations (such as Single Phase configuration) as Harmony 8 with an exception of a tweeter. Thanks to this tweak the only major change is presented in the highest frequencies. Harmony 8 Pro offers 15dB bigger output in the 12kHz-20kHz range. The outcome is more mainstream sound better suited for heavy genres such as rock and metal.
Both IEMs will hold position as Custom Art's flagships.

Piotr, you're awesome :D


Edited by Rollk2 - 5/17/14 at 11:42pm
post #980 of 3470
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Harmony 8 Pro offers 15dB bigger output in the 12kHz-20kHz range.

 

 

 

15db ?   YIKES! That's a LOT! :confused_face:

 

 

How about an in-between option? (a 'semi-Pro' version, if you will).

post #981 of 3470

15db seems like a lot to me too. If I were to order one of them, definitely the vanilla H8 would do the job for me as I am sensitive to treble.

post #982 of 3470

It's 12-20 kHz. I'd say that +15 dB is a welcome addition for people who want a more neutral response. You'll get an airer sound.

 

The default Harmony is fine, but the upper treble shelf from 12-20 kHz is definitely a good 9 dB lower than the lower treble shelf from 6-12 kHz.

 

The majority of "harshness" that people hear comes between 7-11 kHz, which is likely to be less affected by this tweeter change.

 

The UERM has about 7.5 dB of treble boost from 10-14 kHz and it's already a "bright" earphone even without that boost.

 

To my ears, this kind of boost helps delineate decay of treble harmonic-heavy instruments such as cymbals.

 

EDIT: Let's put it this way --- if the Harmony 8 were the HD650, the Harmony 8 Pro would be the HD800.


Edited by tomscy2000 - 5/18/14 at 2:16am
post #983 of 3470
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post
EDIT: Let's put it this way --- if the Harmony 8 were the HD650, the Harmony 8 Pro would be the HD800.

I think that is very good metaphor

Harmony 8 has response 10Hz-18,5kHz (+-20dB into 711 IEC)

Harmony 8 Pro is 10-20kHz (+-10dB into 711 IEC)

 

It's not very harsh actually despite what it may suggest. If you can handle JH or UM signatures this one is pretty similar.

post #984 of 3470
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Originally Posted by piotrus-g View Post

 

 

It's not very harsh actually despite what it may suggest. If you can handle JH or UM signatures this one is pretty similar.

 

 

  1. Would you consider offering a bespoke tweeter tuning?
  2. Can you please clarify if the tweeter BA is different in the Pro, or if it is identical but with different electrical or coupler tuning? (not asking for secret methodology, just what is the difference between Pro and non-pro tweeter configuration)

 

 

Thanks

post #985 of 3470
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

 

  1. Would you consider offering a bespoke tweeter tuning?
  2. Can you please clarify if the tweeter BA is different in the Pro, or if it is identical but with different electrical or coupler tuning? (not asking for secret methodology, just what is the difference between Pro and non-pro tweeter configuration)

 

 

Thanks


1. No I don't think so

2. Yes, Pro and regular have different dual-drivers for highs, slightly different tubing termination (due to phase) but almost identical crossover points.

post #986 of 3470
I think i need to buy both to see the difference. ...


damn it.

:-D
post #987 of 3470
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I think i need to buy both to see the difference. ...


damn it.

:-D
yep..looks like that's the only thing we can do....
post #988 of 3470

I listened Harmony 8 Pro today. There are more equal than Harmony 8. Bass is the same, there is a lot of it, goes low and its texture is very good. Highs are more, and got aggressiveness, aren't as relaxing as Harmony 8. Can listen to them every musical genres, especially electronic, hip-hop, rock and metal. On Harmony 8 I could listened Hip-hop, dub step, but classic music and anime OST sounds very bad.

post #989 of 3470
Universal Demo versions?
post #990 of 3470

No, Harmony 8 Pro made to Piotr ear impressions. I have very good seal on his ear impressions.

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