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post #646 of 1278
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Does anyone know if the dimensions on the CEntrace site is the final sizes?  I'm looking for either an OtterBox or Pelican case...

Yes, final dimensions are on the website: 127 mm (L) x 82 mm (W) x 33 mm (H)

post #647 of 1278
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Now the PHA-2 is about to come out...DSD I hear....

 

Do compare the output power of PHA-2 vs. HiFi-M8.

 

Looks like these two devices are in different classes, like a Toyota and a BMW.
post #648 of 1278
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Do compare the output power of PHA-2 vs. HiFi-M8.

Looks like these two devices are in different classes, like a Toyota and a BMW.
Hi Michael, I enjoy my M8 but I acknowledge sometimes I use my Toyota for short trips. Toyota = my Fiio e12 etc without DAC.
post #649 of 1278

I've been using my jh13's balanced with the m8 for a few weeks now(yeah, overkill, I know lol), and thought I would share my impressions. First I'll start with the negatives. A couple of improvements I was hoping to hear just didn't come to light. I had hoped for a bit more sparkle to the treble, with a more airy presentation. But in fact, I got the opposite. The highs ended up being just a little subdued with them being re terminated balanced. I initially thought, I must have wired the connector up wrong. I double and triple checked, but the wiring was right. Then I used my balanced to se adapter and the highs returned to what I remembered; very strange. The extension was still there though so it wasn't a deal breaker. 

 

The other improvement I was hoping for was an increased width in sound stage. I know that there's only so much width to be gained with ciems, but given my experience with balanced headphones in the past, I was hoping to squeeze just a little more out with going balanced. But the sound stage width remained the same. 

 

Now the last negative was something that was going to be pretty obvious. Before, I got just a tiny bit of hiss. It was very, very minuscule, but noticeably in a very quiet environment. Balanced, the amount of hiss did increase. It went from just barely audible to very low. Still not a lot, and quiet enough not to ever hear while the music is playing, even during quiet passages. But still just a little more that single ended.

 

Now on to the positives. The sound stage width didn't increase, but the depth sure did. And lucky for me I care much more about the depth than the width of sound stage. The sound was already 3 dimensional, but now it's even more 3 dimensional. The mids are fuller and a bit smoother as well. The highs, although slightly subdued, was just a little less harsh in comparison. Actually, I never noticed the slight harshness in the highs until listening to them balanced. The bass had more impact, slam, and texture. The bass weight is the same as it was when single ended with one level of bass boast.

 

So are these improvements enough to warrant, a slight reduction and the highs, a little bit more hiss, and the bulkiness of the full sized 4 pin connector. At first, I didn't think so. But last night after listening to them strickly balanced for a couple of weeks now, and then switching to the se adapter, I immediately realized just how much I would miss the fuller body mids, increased depth, more silky sound highs, and the bass weight. The bass weight could probably be remedied with the bass shaping switch, but everything else wouldn't. And like I said, with the music playing, even during quiet passages, the hiss level wasn't high enough to be heard. So I think I"m going to leave them as is for the foreseeable future.

post #650 of 1278
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So are these improvements enough to warrant, a slight reduction and the highs, a little bit more hiss, and the bulkiness of the full sized 4 pin connector. At first, I didn't think so. But last night after listening to them strickly balanced for a couple of weeks now, and then switching to the se adapter, I immediately realized just how much I would miss the fuller body mids, increased depth, more silky sound highs, and the bass weight. The bass weight could probably be remedied with the bass shaping switch, but everything else wouldn't. And like I said, with the music playing, even during quiet passages, the hiss level wasn't high enough to be heard. So I think I"m going to leave them as is for the foreseeable future.

 

My impressions absolutely align with moodyrn, on how balanced drive can lend particular, appealing sonics to IEMs.

 

IEMs may be hyper sensitive, but my UE10s and evidently the JH13 (same designer) scale up tangibly when presented with robust power.  

 

If you see me at a meet with this gear, and have the same IEM connectors, I'd be happy to disconnect so you can hear it for yourself.

 

 

post #651 of 1278
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My impressions absolutely align with moodyrn, on how balanced drive can lend particular, appealing sonics to IEMs.

IEMs may be hyper sensitive, but my UE10s and evidently the JH13 (same designer) scale up tangibly when presented with robust power.  

If you see me at a meet with this gear, and have the same IEM connectors, I'd be happy to disconnect so you can hear it for yourself.



Dual 3 pin XLR's? Curiosity is getting the best of me. Why this over 4 pin XLR? Seriously just curious.

Is that an iPhone 5?
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Dual 3 pin XLR's? Curiosity is getting the best of me. Why this over 4 pin XLR? Seriously just curious.

Is that an iPhone 5?

 

I blame Headroom!  Or credit them.. depends on the day.  ;)

 
When I stumbled upon this insane hobby in mid-oh-six, I soon went up the ladder with their gear -- Airhead, Bithead, Micro... That all led me to their balanced desktop, which was a killer amp paired with a balanced AKG-701.  
 
Headroom only made dual 3-pin XLR balanced amps (right?), so I pretty much stuck with that to this day.  So, no real reason other than early supply and inertia...  I preordered the Alpha Dogs, which only come balanced with 4-pin, so I need to sort out an adapter.
 
I just picked up a 5th Gen Touch.  Cue the groaning and apple throwing, but I think it sounds better than the ipod classic 160GB.  Given that, and the Touch's superior interface, I'm pretty happy with it.
post #653 of 1278
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I blame Headroom!  Or credit them.. depends on the day.  wink.gif
 
When I stumbled upon this insane hobby in mid-oh-six, I soon went up the ladder with their gear -- Airhead, Bithead, Micro... That all led me to their balanced desktop, which was a killer amp paired with a balanced AKG-701.  
 
Headroom only made dual 3-pin XLR balanced amps (right?), so I pretty much stuck with that to this day.  So, no real reason other than early supply and inertia...  I preordered the Alpha Dogs, which only come balanced with 4-pin, so I need to sort out an adapter.
 
I just picked up a 5th Gen Touch.  Cue the groaning and apple throwing, but I think it sounds better than the ipod classic 160GB.  Given that, and the Touch's superior interface, I'm pretty happy with it.
My gen 4 touch sounds as good or better than my classic. No groans from me. I'm holding out for 128 GB of iPod touch or iPhone storage. Apple won't get another chunk of my DAP money till then. The FS thread will, I'm sure.
post #654 of 1278
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My gen 4 touch sounds as good or better than my classic. No groans from me. I'm holding out for 128 GB of iPod touch or iPhone storage. Apple won't get another chunk of my DAP money till then. The FS thread will, I'm sure.

Will Apple ever produce a iPod Classic with 24/96 support or iPod Touch with 128 gb capacity with 24/96 support? That would make me buy an Apple product again after all those years.

post #655 of 1278
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Will Apple ever produce a iPod Classic with 24/96 support or iPod Touch with 128 gb capacity with 24/96 support? That would make me buy an Apple product again after all those years.
I'm guessing the IPC is dead--there will be no updates.

Isn't there supposed to be an upcoming update that would allow iDevices (touch, pad, phone) to play 24/96?
post #656 of 1278
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I'm guessing the IPC is dead--there will be no updates.

Isn't there supposed to be an upcoming update that would allow iDevices (touch, pad, phone) to play 24/96?

What about high capacity iPod Touch? Won't they make something like this (128 gb?) with 24/96 support and get all of our money?

post #657 of 1278
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post
 

What about high capacity iPod Touch? Won't they make something like this (128 gb?) with 24/96 support and get all of our money?

 

That's what I'm hoping for.  I thought there would be a minor announcement at the iPhone event.  Now I'm hoping they announce a 128gb iPod Touch with the iPad announcement in October...

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This is good to see.  JH13's and Mr. S AD's are my planned home / travel setup and I was hoping to be able to use the M8 LX for both.  It's encouraging to read that it seems to work well for both. 

post #659 of 1278
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That's what I'm hoping for.  I thought there would be a minor announcement at the iPhone event.  Now I'm hoping they announce a 128gb iPod Touch with the iPad announcement in October...

Fingers crossed mate. Otherwise I don't think I will ever buy iDevices again. What is the use if you have iPod Classic with 160 gb but no high res support :rolleyes:

post #660 of 1278
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Originally Posted by Justin0505 View Post
 

This is good to see.  JH13's and Mr. S AD's are my planned home / travel setup and I was hoping to be able to use the M8 LX for both.  It's encouraging to read that it seems to work well for both. 

 

I realize I neglected to share my experiences w/ my HiFi-M8 (XL4/iDevice edition) and my JH-13 Freqphase IEMS!

 

I used the Mad Dogs on the way to LA (picture below - shared it before, saying this was my favorite in-flight musical

experience thus far):

 

 

and used my JH-13's on the way back (forgot to snap a pic).

 

I thought I saw a mention of noise issues w/ IEMs.  I didn't experience any noise issues - though I admittedly kept

my gain at the lowest setting (wasn't reviewing/evaluating them at the time - just listening).  I rocked a playlist that included

everybody from Tori Amos to Alix Perez and I loved every minute of it!  The presentation was open, dynamic, and as engaging

as I've ever experienced through my JH Audio's!  I was psyched as I finally feel like I have an all-in-one solution for traveling - 

 

where before I would bring, at least, a couple of different headphone amps and small DACs (like the Dragonfly and HRT microStreamer),

this was my first trip where I only brought one DAC/amp combo and a few cans (LCD3's, Mad Dogs, and JH-13s) - and I didn't

feel like I wanted for anything!  That says alot to me.

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