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post #511 of 1308
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post
 

Michael and his engineering team requested my ipod classic info, which I'll also post here:

 

Model, back: A1238
Model, settings menu: MC297LL
Version, settings menu: 2.0.4 PC
 
If you're willing, pls post your ipod's info as well.  Let's take a quant approach and maybe we can correlate issues to ipod version / age / etc.

I'll get mine ASAP!!

I've been using both my iPod Classic and Touch (and iPhone 4S) without ANY issues!

STRANGE...

 

gotta run, but I'll share my Classic info ASAP

post #512 of 1308

Due to some of the issues I posted earlier (sound output cutting out when skipping ipod songs, LED battery lights not indicating as they should) Michael requested my unit back to the mother ship.  Thankfully I was able to replicate the LED issue, and demonstrated its behavior through pictures.

 

Bummed, but stuff happens...  Michael and crew have been great to work with - prompt & helpful.  

 

I'm glad your iPod Classics are sounding good.  For me, the default iDevice pairing at home will be with the M8 / ipad streaming FLAC, given same access to total library (vs. total songs local stored in ipod) in addition to better sound quality.

 

If you get a chance to demo a Dragonfly / JRiver combo, I'd be interested in your comparisons / impressions.  

post #513 of 1308
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post
 

Due to some of the issues I posted earlier (sound output cutting out when skipping ipod songs, LED battery lights not indicating as they should) Michael requested my unit back to the mother ship.  Thankfully I was able to replicate the LED issue, and demonstrated its behavior through pictures.

 

Bummed, but stuff happens...  Michael and crew have been great to work with - prompt & helpful.  

 

I'm glad your iPod Classics are sounding good.  For me, the default iDevice pairing at home will be with the M8 / ipad streaming FLAC, given same access to total library (vs. total songs local stored in ipod) in addition to better sound quality.

 

If you get a chance to demo a Dragonfly / JRiver combo, I'd be interested in your comparisons / impressions.  

Bummer, and what do you need to know about the AQDF?  I have it and used it with JRiver for a while.

post #514 of 1308
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post
 

Bummer, and what do you need to know about the AQDF?  I have it and used it with JRiver for a while.

 

No questions, per se, I own (and much enjoy) that combo as well.  In a few posts back I compared that combo to the ipod / M8, and wondered if anyone else had similar impressions. 

post #515 of 1308

I don't have my M8 yet, but I totally agree with you that the AQDF is very, very clear and clean sounding with its ESS Sabre 9023 DAC.

post #516 of 1308
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Originally Posted by mikemercer View Post
 

Congrats!  Mine came with the power switch on too!  Luckily there was some battery power left (which Michael Goodman and I had a good laugh over) but 

@MGoodman - you got another one that arrived with the power engaged!  DAMN YOU!  LOL

 

Those responsible have been sacked!

(A Monty Python Quote for the fans out there) lol

post #517 of 1308
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Originally Posted by sugarshark View Post
 

 

I know what you mean.

 

I am a bit disappointed I have to source my own cable - it pushes the price up further. Add a Tuono cable (10cm, not ideal) plus dealer tax and i'm looking at $900...

 

30 pin connectors are legacy - all current gen apple products have switched to lightning adapters. Just seems confusing to me why they put out a device specifically targetting idevices, including certification, and not include a cable for the current interface standard.

We have not had the time yet to include the lightning cable. Been focused on SQ so much... Search the other thread -- several people found very inexpensive cables on ebay and alibaba, which are quite good and won't break the bank.

Edit: Monoprice.  'Nuff said.


Edited by mgoodman - 9/5/13 at 10:35pm
post #518 of 1308
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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post
 

I'll add a few more brief impressions, sort of random access thoughts:

 

There is some real magic with the HD650's - anybody else notice this?  A lovely synergy.  Additionally, switching to 10 ohm allows a nice lush presentation, 1 click on the treble adds a bit of sparkle, and for those that find a veil (I don't) they may find this lifts it.  1 click on the bass adds a nice deep blossom, for the times one might want that.  I don't use either tone control by default, at least so far, but both are a nice touch with the HD650, as is the 10 ohm selection.  1 ohm to 2 ohm was imperceptible to me.

 

Lovely as well with the Mad Dogs, but I haven't spent enough time with them yet.

 

I have a pair of 1964 Ears Quads, custom iems.  They are quite sensitive, and have impedance down in the 25 ohm range, sensitivity in the 118 dB / mW.  The HIFI-M8 is useable with them, but not the best choice for these CIEM's.  At just off of full left (0 volume) on the pot, there is slight imbalance to the left.  It disappears almost immediately, and is gone well before listening volume.  I am at listening volume by the second to third mark around the volume knob, say 7:30 to 8:00.  As I said, useable, and acceptable for my needs.  If I was CIEM's only or very often, I would send it in for the mod.  As to "hiss" - with an iPod plugged in, on pause, very, very quiet hiss throughout the volume rotation (and I mean quiet, I am sensitive to this), with a couple of hot spots at about 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock that had very slightly more hiss.  This is not an issue at least with my ciems - my ears will be bleeding by 9:30 or so.  NONE of this is noticeable with headphones - this is a multi-driver CIEM issue.  Oh, I better mention - the Quads sound really stinking good out of the M8!  My purpose and point here - to share my experience with my ciems with the HIFI-M8.  If I used CIEMS a lot, I'd get the mod; I've become more of a headphone guy, and I appreciate the power available unmodded.  For the little that I'll use my ciems with the M8 (ciems = small rig to me - straight out of the iPod), limited travel with the volume pot is acceptable.

 

I've mentioned a couple of times that it sounds so good I don't notice it.  Essentially true - it just gets out of the way.  That said, I've had more than a few "Damn!" moments when I just glance at it with kind of a holy shiite! thought and expression.  It is the finest portable solution I have heard so far.  If you happen to be thinking about the fact that you are listening to the HIFI-M8, it occasionally blows you away while getting out of the way.

 

This thing is non-fatiguing to the point I have to be cautious about volume.  It sounds so good my ears don't get tired.  I suspect this is a combination of the DAC implementation and the pure class A distortion (or lack of) characteristics.

 

Summary - I really, really like it so far.  I'm definitely in the honeymoon period, though a good marriage survives the honeymoon and gets better (ok, bragging :) .  I love the ability to put my iPod on the stock long cable and use it like a wired remote, while the HIFI-M8 pulls digital output from it, I love the sound of the dac and the amp.

 

I'll try to stay away for a while, and quit gushing, and report back after a bit of time with it.  Jeeze, I'm such a fanboy...

When you say that you are normally listening with IEMs at 7:30, where do you have the gain switch set at? Minimum (hard left), I hope?

post #519 of 1308
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post
 

Of the JRiver DSP settings, other than the necessary Output Format, if I use EQ it's primarily the "Rock" (classic V) setting.

 

I don't use the Parametric EQ or the Crossfade.  The Rock EQ in conjunction with the Dragonfly's house sound is very appealing to me.  Removing the JRiver EQ variable, the music still sounded better vs. the ipod, using either HW (though DF sounded better).

 

The laptop plus a small DAC/amp provided a nice transportable / luggable solution with really good sound and I was hoping for something even more portable, still with high storage capacity, and with comparable AQ.

 

All that said, although this comparison was (I hope) reasonable given portability and price-point similarities, I likely need to view / critique what I have unto itself -- a very powerful, portable balanced amp, that's native idevice compatible.  That might mean switching to an ipod touch or using another headphone with perhaps better synergy, etc.  Who was I to think the search might be over?  Fool!

 

Other data:

 

- I'm having a couple of technical issues with no sound sometimes being output at music start (ipod shows it's playing), having to reset and remedy the issue by flipping the power switch back to the middle then again to right.  

 

Also, my 3 LED battery light indicator isn't... indicating, though it had charged up for hours.  All LEDs are off, power cable unplugged, on battery power, on either idevice or USB inputs.  I'll leave it charging overnight and check again tomorrow.  Michael has forwarded my issues to his engineers and so am waiting on follow up.

 

- I copied over a few ALACs to my wife's iPhone 4S, and the sound quality was a bit better than the ipod 7G, so I'm hopeful that maybe the newest-gen high capacity touch might be a better source solution.

 

- Just now I used my ipad3 as a source, it too sounds better than the ipod -- the ipad playing local stored ALACs as well as streamed FLAC using Squeezepad app.  

 

Both local and streamed songs sounded identical on the ipad, so that's good news, takes away one variable to wonder about.

Just to state the facts -- we are in touch with this customer and are working to solve the issues he has reported.

post #520 of 1308
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Originally Posted by mgoodman View Post

When you say that you are normally listening with IEMs at 7:30, where do you have the gain switch set at? Minimum (hard left), I hope?
@mgoodman yes, hard left, minimum gain. My listening level is pretty quiet most of the time.

Hmmmm. 7:30 at medium or high gain with custom iems... There'd be nothing left of me but a little green globule....
Edited by aamefford - 9/6/13 at 8:52am
post #521 of 1308
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post #522 of 1308

Well, that's a bold claim by CL right there.

post #523 of 1308
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Originally Posted by Nitrile View Post

Well, that's a bold claim by CL right there.
+1 on that. Even Jude found the M8 to outperform the 720 with regards to overall SQ.
post #524 of 1308

CL didn't say what model of what brand. Maybe it's better than a Dacport?

post #525 of 1308
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Originally Posted by eron View Post
 

CL didn't say what model of what brand. Maybe it's better than a Dacport?

 

Maybe--at $700, it darn well be better than the Dacport!

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