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post #1231 of 1245

Same here, I usually use my m8 with the hd650 and I love it, though today I've played a little comparing the m8 and my desktop amp, both using my lcd 2 with balanced cable, and well... I was surprised to hear that, in my opinion, the m8 suffer a little driving the lcd's.

Anyone else had this impression? 

 

Thanks

post #1232 of 1245
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Originally Posted by thomascrown View Post
 

Same here, I usually use my m8 with the hd650 and I love it, though today I've played a little comparing the m8 and my desktop amp, both using my lcd 2 with balanced cable, and well... I was surprised to hear that, in my opinion, the m8 suffer a little driving the lcd's.

Anyone else had this impression? 

 

Thanks

 

What desktop amp?  Seems a bit unfair to expect equality?

post #1233 of 1245
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Originally Posted by ButtUglyJeff View Post

What desktop amp?  Seems a bit unfair to expect equality?

Well I understand, but the LCD are supposed to be pretty easy to drive, and the m8 it's pretty powerful, that's why I'm surprised. The other amp is the hdva600.
post #1234 of 1245

Although not as hard to drive as something like an he6, they are still difficult to drive orthos. And you are comparing the hifi m8 to a 1500.00 full sized desktop amp and wonder why it can't keep up? Lol.

post #1235 of 1245
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Originally Posted by moodyrn View Post
 

Although not as hard to drive as something like an he6, they are still difficult to drive orthos. And you are comparing the hifi m8 to a 1500.00 full sized desktop amp and wonder why it can't keep up? Lol.

chord hugo costs $2495.00 and it's not as powerful as the m8 so what's your point? I'm just asking for an opinion from people who's got the same equipment (m8 and lcd 2),  and want to share their experience, if instead you just want to make fun of me, well, you are just rude.

post #1236 of 1245

What are you talking about. I was making the point of a dedicated desktop headphone amp vs a portable, battery powered "combo" unit at less than half the price. The hugo you mention is pretty much in the same category as the m8 being that it is intended mostly for mobile use. So that wasn't a good example to use. 

 

And furthermore, the sennheiser amp and the m8 couldn't be more different. One is battery powered, so drive capability is already going to be limited vs something that's being feed 120v(or 220 depending on where you live). Plus the senn has a much more beefier power supply capable of delivering much more current. Those are just two reasons among many that I won't  now waste my time getting into.

 

Those two products couldn't be more different, and are complete apples to oranges. The hifi m8 is a marvel at what it does, but don't expect it to perform miracles. It's great, and approaches midfi desktop quality. It even best a few. But don't expect a dac/amp battery powered combo unit to have the drive capability of a high end desktop, "dedicated" headphone amp.

 

So I won't comment on any more of your posts and I hope you would do the same. I didn't mean any harm with my post and you just took it to a level that makes no sense.

post #1237 of 1245

I should have read this before, my bad for asking - here - such a "dumb" question:

 

"I spent some time comparing the HiFi-M8 with my reference stack of AURLiC Vega DAC and Taurus Mk2 headphone amp using the AK120 Toslink connection as source for both. It became clear pretty quickly the M8 just didn't have the finesse and slam of the AURALiC gear. All the micro-textural stuff that us audiophiles love to experience was there in spades with the Vega and Taurus...the M8 just didn't have this magic sauce. It remains a mystery and wonder to me that what must be rather small differences are so readily apparent in this comparison. Listening to the M8 in isolation I hear absolutely nothing "wrong" with the sound at all. Switching over from the M8 to AURALiC stack, however, one is struck—an deeply pleased—in going from "right" to "righter". So no, the M8 isn't a reference level home unit, though I would characterize it as a reference level portable amp."

 

Anyway, apparently it's still possible to compare "apples and oranges" and be surprised that "what must be rather small differences are so readily apparent".

 

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/trusted-traveling-companion-centrance-hifi-m8-portable-headphone-ampdac-page-2


Edited by thomascrown - 9/10/14 at 7:27am
post #1238 of 1245

Michael has made the point that even the DACmini will have more authority then the HiFi-M8.  The DACMini is a quite nice small desktop, but is not in league with the 2 Sennheiser amps, at least in terms of power.  Sound color might be more subjective...

post #1239 of 1245

Exactly. We have to remember what this is. It's a battery powered mobile device that has desktop "like" power. It's a marvel at what it does given that it is a battery powered device. And like I've said before, it competes with some midfi desktop setups and besting a few of them too. That within itself is quiet amazing. But don't get carried away with expectations. At then end of the day it's still a portable/transportable unit where the battery have to power both a class A amp and a really good sounding dac. Accomplishing that is quiet a feat. And to do it with few compromises on the sonic side of things is another.

post #1240 of 1245

can i ask which has more bass boost alo rx mk3 or centrance m8, also which is more warm

 

also does the m8 drive the audeze lcd2 rev2 well

post #1241 of 1245
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Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post

can i ask which has more bass boost alo rx mk3 or centrance m8, also which is more warm

also does the m8 drive the audeze lcd2 rev2 well

The Rx bass boost is more subtle. It would depend on your gear. Imo for the hd650, i prefer the M8, i dont have access to an lcd so ymmv.
post #1242 of 1245

can I use the m8 to bi amp my chord hugo, I don't know where I read that the m8 can't be used only as an amp is that ture

 

my setup would be

 

ipod---chord hugo-----M8---- audeze is that possible and which configuration of m8 should I buy

post #1243 of 1245
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Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post

can I use the m8 to bi amp my chord hugo, I don't know where I read that the m8 can't be used only as an amp is that ture

my setup would be

ipod---chord hugo
M8---- audeze is that possible and which configuration of m8 should I buy
the M8 doesn't have analog inputs as far as I can tell.the two different input configurations are HiFi-M8 and HiFi-M8 LX. The M8 has USB input for computer and some android phones, and then an apple certified usb in for iproducts. The LX has the same usb for computer/android, and then instead of the apple usb in, the LX has optical input in its place.
post #1244 of 1245
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Originally Posted by kayza View Post


the M8 doesn't have analog inputs as far as I can tell.the two different input configurations are HiFi-M8 and HiFi-M8 LX. The M8 has USB input for computer and some android phones, and then an apple certified usb in for iproducts. The LX has the same usb for computer/android, and then instead of the apple usb in, the LX has optical input in its place.

so i can't use it to bi amp the chord hugo

post #1245 of 1245
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Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post
 

so i can't use it to bi amp the chord hugo

i dont think so. only way to hook M8 up to something would be through one of those digital inputs (optical, usb, apple usb), so if the chord has optical out, then you could do that, but that wouldn't be double amping, and it would effectively be pointless unless a highly specific scenario necessitates it.

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