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post #91 of 153
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Originally Posted by r one View Post

I've got w3000anv and D7100

 

but only one : W1000X : fun and all rounder
 

+1 on the W1000X.  They are  a good mix of my favorite aspects of some of my other cans.

post #92 of 153

My choices (answering both questions; a) = #Primary, b) = #Primary + #Secondary choice):

 

#Primary My modified Grado HP 1000i

 

(#Secondary STAX SR-009)

 

Reasoning: Only open-back headphones because I spend most of my time in my silent computer room (in which I listen to music).

 

#1 A comfort and practicality thing, I can wear them literally infinitely, and they're also fairly easily driveable by a portable source

 

#2 When I need the best possible resolution


Edited by devouringone3 - 5/14/13 at 9:41pm
post #93 of 153
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I can't believe you guys are actually putting in-ear-invading-monitors and closed headphones as the only headphone you could possess, the first can't achieve long term comfort and the second is limited in what in can offer of sound quality.
Sounds like someone who's never used a properly-fitted CIEM or listened to a TH-900... or MDR-R10.tongue.gif
Edited by 3X0 - 5/14/13 at 5:41am
post #94 of 153

Well I have a Fostex Kotori 201 (think Creative Aurvana Live! and Denon AH-D1000-1001) that obeys to the same design principles, making it an open-sounding non-specially-isolating closed-back fullsize.

 

But hey, it's still closed back :P

 

 

I never owned any cIEM but according to the guys at this panel (at about 9/10th of the video) they seat and go deep enough in your ear to trigger anti-intruders-wax-generating defense mechanisms, which happens to me with uIEM and is why I dislike them. It's not the comfort per se (just find the right tips, etc.), but more the reaction of my body against it. cIEMs might fare better though; you're right I've never tried them.


Edited by devouringone3 - 5/14/13 at 5:58am
post #95 of 153
IEMs can be much more comfortable than any headphone.
post #96 of 153

Unless that “any headphone” is of the kind of headphones you forget they're on your head (like a Porta Pro for example).

 

IEMs can't do that.

 

I wear my uIEMs for like, just some hours, and they start dripping off from my ears from all the sweat and oil their tips are covered of.


Edited by devouringone3 - 5/14/13 at 6:22am
post #97 of 153
It would appear that you need to expand your experience with iems then. Headphones clamp, and weigh down the head and neck, especially full sized ones. Even my HD600 is not exempt from this.
post #98 of 153
Thread Starter 

Woot! Back home from Munich.  Great comments guys, I'll comment soon.

post #99 of 153
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Originally Posted by devouringone3 View Post

Well I have a Fostex Kotori 201 (think Creative Aurvana Live! and Denon AH-D1000-1001) that obeys to the same design principles, making it an open-sounding non-specially-isolating closed-back fullsize.

 

But hey, it's still closed back :P

 

 

I never owned any cIEM but according to the guys at this panel (at about 9/10th of the video) they seat and go deep enough in your ear to trigger anti-intruders-wax-generating defense mechanisms, which happens to me with uIEM and is why I dislike them. It's not the comfort per se (just find the right tips, etc.), but more the reaction of my body against it. cIEMs might fare better though; you're right I've never tried them.


It takes a truly high-end closed-back design as in the MDR-R10 (really in another league though) or TH-900 to make you realize how little the open/closed-back debate matters. Behind the MDR-R10, the W3000ANV is the best truly sealed design I've heard and I do prefer it over the HD 800, T1, et alia.

 

That said, your point about the body's innate reaction is indeed valid. My body's gotten used to it over 3.5 years of using the JH13s daily, with some dietary changes, but the wax-generating response was definitely noticeable past the first hour for a few months.

 

And I don't think anyone's going to fault you for having Joe Grado's as your first (and only) pick. smily_headphones1.gif


Edited by 3X0 - 5/21/13 at 2:46pm
post #100 of 153

But one does not get the airy surroundish sound from a full sized open headphone as easily on ciem's and iem's and closed backs. Also most of us haven't splashed enough cash to get a ciem or had the chance to buy an MDR-10.

post #101 of 153
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But one does not get the airy surroundish sound from a full sized open headphone as easily on ciem's and iem's and closed backs. Also most of us haven't splashed enough cash to get a ciem or had the chance to buy an MDR-10.

 

I've never owned a ciem. What so many people don't realize is the importance of ear tip selection. There are also several different grades of tip material that "grip" the ear canal much better than others. 

 

I also disagree that airy surround sound is limited to open backs. Also, though iems may be smaller in out of head space, they makeup for it with a sort of inner imaging that most headphones can't touch. The sound is also more visceral on iems, often much more so.

post #102 of 153

I think if i could only have one I'd go with a.. wow this is a hard decision.. hmm. Ultrasone ED8.

 

If i could have two it would be  Beyerdynamic T1 and Westone 4.

post #103 of 153
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It takes a truly high-end closed-back design as in the MDR-R10 (really in another league though) or TH-900 to make you realize how little the open/closed-back debate matters. Behind the MDR-R10 (with a fairly large margin), the W3000ANV is the best truly sealed design I've heard and I do prefer it over the HD 800, T1, et alia.

 

That said, your point about the body's innate reaction is indeed valid. My body's gotten used to it over 3.5 years of using the JH13s daily, with some dietary changes, but the wax-generating response was definitely noticeable past the first hour for a few months.

 

And I don't think anyone's going to fault you for having Joe Grado's as your first (and only) pick. smily_headphones1.gif

 

I never got the hang of IEMs, I used them to work (as a lone janitor) from 2006 to 2010, original Sennheiser CX300, because they were my only headphone at the time –and frankly they're super-practical when driving noisy machines–, but now that I have joined Head-Fi and that I have found “real/proper” headphones, and there's no way I'm going back to these tiny and intrusive IEMs.

 

IEMs are still practical on the go and in noisy scenarios, that's for sure, so I understand those who picked them as their second choice. But you got to have at least one open-back headphones, they're the ones with the best potential sound quality... supposedly...?

 

By the way I even changed my choice #2 from IEMs (“in case I ever need them, hopefully NOT”) to a SR-009; to show how serious I am, lol.

 

Those are some very well regarded “open-sounding” closed-backs you named, if I worked in a cubicle office and I needed the bit of isolation and not annoy my coworkers, I would definitely pick one of those.

 

It's funny how our two headphones choices are influenced by the conditions/context/situations (which in turn are dictated by your lifestyle/career) we're in when we listen to our music. I expected everyone would be choosing “Orpheus / Omega 2 mk1 / SR-009 / etc.” but I was definitely wrong.


Edited by devouringone3 - 5/14/13 at 8:16am
post #104 of 153
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Originally Posted by devouringone3 View Post

 

I never got the hang of IEMs, I used them to work (as a lone janitor) from 2006 to 2010, original Sennheiser CX300, because they were my only headphone at the time –and frankly they're super-practical when driving noisy machines–, but now that I have joined Head-Fi and that I have found “real/proper” headphones, and there's no way I'm going back to these tiny and intrusive IEMs.

 

IEMs are still practical on the go and in noisy scenarios, that's for sure, so I understand those who picked them as their second choice. But you got to have at least one open-back headphones, they're the ones with the best potential sound quality... supposedly...?

 

By the way I even changed my choice #2 from IEMs (“in case I ever need them, hopefully NOT”) to a SR-009; to show how serious I am, lol.

 

Those are some very well regarded “open-sounding” closed-backs you named, if I worked in a cubicle office and I needed the bit of isolation and not annoy my coworkers, I would definitely pick one of those.

 

It's funny how our two headphones choices are influenced by the conditions/context in which we mainly absorb music.

 

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Well, There's your problem.

 

 

That's simply untrue. You've never listened to a top tier, or even mid tier, iem, so you have no place to make statements like that. I've owned several iems, along with the DT880 and HD600. I don't find them to be objectively better than my better iems, except for the out of head stage effect that comes with the massive drivers. Even then, my iems are perfectly capable of simulating this effect, but often with better imaging.

post #105 of 153

But the can top ciem/iem's compete with top full size opens?

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