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post #1 of 39
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I just grabbed a newish pair of HD600s for $260 CAD and I have to say, they just lack big time on BASS.  AMAZING MIDS and MID-HIGHS....I mean some of the sounds I'm hearing are leaving me awestruck....but the low end is really thin, and I was contemplatig getting AKG 702s for monitoring but thought they would be way too bass thin...but these 600s are bass thin lol.  These HD600s will be good for monitoring and mixing imo, but not for listening enjoyment if you are a bBASSHEAD...which I apparently know I am now that I've used these.  I actully rad the group consensus on all the forums was that the 600s are good on the bass, I would say they are true to the bass, they arent veiled at all.  I have my sound driver on the max POWERFUL setting that kicks thae bass on any speaker or ****ty heaphone, but on the 600s it is sooooooo NOT emphasizing any bass.  

 

 

With all this being said, I know I will use these cans for mixing at least for the mids , but If I want to listen to TRANCE which is my bag, then I need more BASSSSS.

 

Please recommend me some cans that sound as awesome as the HDs on the mids and also kick on the bass....with out an amp, I feel like if I had these 600s amped, they would be even awesomer...except only on the mids, the loudness would improve but not the spectrum of the lows.....or maybe they would be more emphasiozed all through the spectrum which would incrase the bass, but not atypically to the rest of the spectrum which is what i want...  recommend something please anyone...I'm asking the BASSSheads, not hip hop bass or DNB bass ne essarily, but I need a good full thudding kick drum bass and these 600s DO NOT PROVIDE THAT.

post #2 of 39
The 650s have an improvement over bass but probably not as much an improvement that you want.
Grados or denons have what youre looking for but ive heard neither maybe someone else woll chime in. But if you dont mind sacrificing sq for that boom boom bass theres always those beats smily_headphones1.gif
post #3 of 39
Thread Starter 

Yea I'm mostly just listen and mix trance so I'm in  need of a headphone that has a good deep bass drum kick, a good synth lead and mid-low mid synth bass range and good voice expressiveness.  It doesnt have to bee sub bass just solid good bottom line kicks and good mid and voice

post #4 of 39

On my portable (AK100 + National), mid-bass is quite good but not the same i have on DT770… Its there but lacks some kick… i heard that Lyr with JJ Tubes will bring the mid-bass more forward… Lets see next week when my desktop set arrives…

post #5 of 39
v moda m100's ??

Myself for trance I use some hifiman he 400's and enjoy

I used to have hd 650 and was disappointed about the bass
post #6 of 39
Thread Starter 

The guy I bought these off of was a n asian who only llistened to classical music....and he just bought them last year......i've just been listening to these non stop for the past 48 hours and I have to say, I don't know if its my ears adjusting to the phones or if all the deep bass i am running through them is breaking them in....

 

 

Any way, I think I've narrowed it down to these cans for my bass needs:

 

I think it's worth noting that the audiosone and m-audio cans have 40mm drivers, whereas the Audiotechnica has 45mm.....and just by sheer looks alone, the q40 and m50 look way more sturdy than the ultrasone, the ultrasone looks flimsy  to me.....

 

 

Amazon.com: Ultrasone PRO 900 S-Logic Surround Sound Professional Headphones - Black: Electronics

http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Studiophile-Closed-back-Dynamic-Headphones/dp/B000XT8JTM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1367768805&sr=1-1&keywords=q40

Amazon.com: V-MODA Crossfade M-100 Over-Ear Noise-Isolating Metal Headphone (Shadow): Electronics

Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Professional Studio Monitor Headphones: Amazon.ca: Electronics


Edited by merlinhd600 - 5/5/13 at 8:55am
post #7 of 39

Anyone who has problems with the HD600 bass has one or both of these problems:

1. The HD600's arent driven properly.

2. The bass reproduction the individual is looking for is not the natural bass of the recorded media.

 

All this is fine as long as the individual realises that their listening taste is distorted towards an over-bass response.

post #8 of 39

i really don't advise you go for the Shures, they are just pretty flat throughout and quite boring basswise.. its the same type of bass as the HD600 in a way.. accurate, not in any way over accentuated.. and also not as good (as the hd600)

 

If you can find them the denon D2k/5k would be great

 

ATH m50's  and I have never got along well. they are a little bit above neutral basswise but oh my god the upper mids/treble murder my ears.

i cant stand it with most EDM.

 

I have the DT770 and while they are as ugly as sin, they are really comfy and possibly the most fun to listen to out of everything i have.

although i cant comment on the others.

 

think what you are looking for in bass is only going to come from an ortho, high end dynamic open, or closed back.

post #9 of 39
It's totally right to say that improper amplification with hd600 make them "dry" and bass shy
on the other hand hd 600's are not known as bass head cans anyway


Ultrasone pro 900's are good for bass but sharp and sibilant
Edited by TontonJoK - 5/5/13 at 8:32am
post #10 of 39
Thread Starter 

lol, yea I get it, I am a bass head...but for mastering and mixing in ableton or vdj i'm using the hd600s, I like the 600s , they are amazing with vocals and mids, youre right though, on some tracks the bass does come through, and it's because of the quality of the track, I only listen to wav or high quality mp3

post #11 of 39

D2k and D5k arent as good as HD600 both in SQ and Scalability. Both can give you bass kick better than HD600 but at the expense of overall resolution… 

post #12 of 39
Thread Starter 

I dont like the  beyers DT770 990 etc because of the attached cords , i always trample and muck up my chords...

post #13 of 39

open the shell and get the speaker.behind the speaker.. drill some holes(bass port) on the corner and you would get nice bass..

post #14 of 39
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Originally Posted by merlinhd600 View Post

lol, yea I get it, I am a bass head...but for mastering and mixing in ableton or vdj i'm using the hd600s, I like the 600s , they are amazing with vocals and mids, youre right though, on some tracks the bass does come through, and it's because of the quality of the track, I only listen to wav or high quality mp3

The bass will ALWAYS come through if the headphone is bass-neutral, it will just come through in the correctly represented amounts. Basically you are hearing what amounts of bass the songs really have, without any colourations imposed by coloured (e.g. non-neutral bassy) headphones.

 

You are hearing what is meant to be heard with a neutral headphone, but maybe not what exactly you want to hear.

post #15 of 39
i am listening to trance right now my favorite artists are Mat Zo, A&B, AVB, BT and i think my hd 600 have just the right amount of bass for that genre considering trance is bass heavy on my ath m50.

If you need bass then the lcd 2 or he 500 or t50rp headphones do bass very well. I would just eq a little bass in there to save money. an 3-6 db eq in the 40-50 hz does it
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Originally Posted by merlinhd600 View Post

I just grabbed a newish pair of HD600s for $260 CAD and I have to say, they just lack big time on BASS.  AMAZING MIDS and MID-HIGHS....I mean some of the sounds I'm hearing are leaving me awestruck....but the low end is really thin, and I was contemplatig getting AKG 702s for monitoring but thought they would be way too bass thin...but these 600s are bass thin lol.  These HD600s will be good for monitoring and mixing imo, but not for listening enjoyment if you are a bBASSHEAD...which I apparently know I am now that I've used these.  I actully rad the group consensus on all the forums was that the 600s are good on the bass, I would say they are true to the bass, they arent veiled at all.  I have my sound driver on the max POWERFUL setting that kicks thae bass on any speaker or ****ty heaphone, but on the 600s it is sooooooo NOT emphasizing any bass.  


With all this being said, I know I will use these cans for mixing at least for the mids , but If I want to listen to TRANCE which is my bag, then I need more BASSSSS.

Please recommend me some cans that sound as awesome as the HDs on the mids and also kick on the bass....with out an amp, I feel like if I had these 600s amped, they would be even awesomer...except only on the mids, the loudness would improve but not the spectrum of the lows.....or maybe they would be more emphasiozed all through the spectrum which would incrase the bass, but not atypically to the rest of the spectrum which is what i want...  recommend something please anyone...I'm asking the BASSSheads, not hip hop bass or DNB bass ne essarily, but I need a good full thudding kick drum bass and these 600s DO NOT PROVIDE THAT.
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