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post #16 of 64
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Thank you all for reading my review and for your compliments!  Don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions.

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Originally Posted by bobeau View Post

Wow, stunner of a review.

 

I'm currently using TG334s as my daily, but was thinking about getting a backup pair of something else.  I see a mention in one place of the 334s, but I haven't really seen much in the way of comparisons between them elsewhere.  Any chance you could shed more light on the differences?

 

Unfortunately I can't A/B the 334 and SM64 at the moment, maybe in a while, but from my chart (where I keep all my numeric scores which help me with comparisons as well as remembering performance), the 334 outperforms the SM64 in pretty much everything except for speed.  There is more bass capability, a larger space, better transparency, more dynamics, etc.  Certain aspects are close, such as the coherence and resolution of the soundstage, but if your ears are used to the 334, you should notice a step down in performance, as you would expect considering the huge price difference.  A loose frame of reference, the SM64 has an overall score of 60.7, which hasn't been added to this chart yet.  I would need to A/B to really tell the differences in the presentation, but I think the 334 is closer to the SM3 than the SM64 in overall presentation.

 

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Originally Posted by NIVEBL View Post

Is it hard to driver? I think add an amp will be easily to issue good sound.

Would you change a better cable to sm64?such as Twag V3 or SAA anything else

 

It is on the harder side to drive since it does have inline resistance that improves the sound.  Unfortunately, I didn't have time to test the SM64 with aftermarket cables.  I will see if I can fit it in within the next week or so.

 

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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

Nice review AJ. I agree with much written here. I hope you get to hear the sm64 with the Tera player sometime.

 

Thanks.  I keep hearing good things about the Tera player...

 

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Originally Posted by djvkool View Post

Absolutely superb review mate - completely agree with you about SM3, I was sceptical about it until I had a chance to audition, suddenly, it was pretty much love at first sight in the first 1-2 minutes, then I purchased shortly after wink_face.gif

 

Yea, the SM3 was a game changer for me.  And a gateway IEM...be careful very_evil_smiley.gif

 

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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post

A very nice read and a superb review, thorough and very detail. If there is a way to rate a review like Amazon, I would rate it 10/5 stars. Yes 10 stars out of 5.

 

Thank you very much!

 

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Originally Posted by esuhgb View Post

Thanks for the review. Was very informative. Can't wait for the pfe232 comparison. Interested in both iems.

Just a heads up with er4s comparison there are a few times you've written EM64 as opposed to SM64.

 

I am going to try to get the 232 review up within a week.  Thanks for catching the typos, I guess all the Es and Ss were too much for my brain, especially since I own the EarSonics EM4 and EM3 pro.

 

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Originally Posted by vrln View Post

Reviews like this also nicely show how utterly outclassed the mainstream audio press professionals are compared to the best "blogger reviewers" :) Just no comparison in my opinion. With content like this around, I see little point in reading WHF (What Hi-Fi) and others.

 

I enjoy reviewing enough to do it full time biggrin.gif

 

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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

Exactly what I'm thinking about the SM64!
Hmmm only your Isolation rating seems a bit to hard to me.

See below...

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Originally Posted by Oof Oink View Post


+1 Though I assumed he was comparing against the many custom earphones he's reviewed...

 

The scale is for custom IEMs.  A hunk of silicone sitting in your ear with a deep fit is pretty isolating!  The SM64 performs about on par with the SM3.

post #17 of 64
average_joe, I hope you don't mind me asking, but what's your personal favorite universal in-ear, and how well does the SM64 compare against it?
post #18 of 64
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Originally Posted by Oof Oink View Post

average_joe, I hope you don't mind me asking, but what's your personal favorite universal in-ear, and how well does the SM64 compare against it?

 

No problem asking the question.  I have a backlog of CIEMs for review, so I listen to what I am reviewing, or the headphones I use for comparison.  I guess I would say the To Go! 334 would be the universal I reach for of those that I have heard (I don't own it), but for the price tag of $1349, I would take several custom IEMs before the 334 that cost less.  To see the overall performance levels as I hear them, go here, select the "Show other types of headphones for reference" checkbox, and then hit the search button.  I also really liked the demo of the Rooth LSX5, but that was initially designed to be a universal and fit quite well.  It was initially made to be a universal at first, however.  I think I would take that over the 334.  But, both aren't as comfortable as a CIEM as the silicone ear tips seem to irritate my ears these days.  It is odd since they never used to before CIEMs.

 

With that said, the SM64 is a great sounding universal, especially considering the price point and I like the EarSoncis sound signature.  Also, I tell everyone they should buy based on their personal preference, not what pleases others most.  You will be the one living with a particular IEM/CIEM, so if you don't like the sound signature, you will eventually not enjoy it as much as something that fits your preferences regardless of the sonic performance.

 

Let me go off on a little tangent: someone asked me for a CIEM recommendation on here and I asked them for their preferences and what IEMs they liked.  I made a recommendation, but they decided to go for something else based on all the great things they read about the particular CIEM.  I didn't think it fit what they wanted as the person didn't like IEMs with similar sound signatures.  After it arrived, they hated it and tried to get used to it, which never happened.  The CIEM was a lot of money and they ended up trying to sell it for a huge loss.  The person quit head-fi and probably lost interest for the hobby.  Moral of the story: get what you will enjoy.  If you don't yet know what that is, buy cheaper stuff and figure out what you like and don't like, then ask for "upgrades" to what you like.  There are several people on here that can give quite good recommendations.  /tangent

post #19 of 64

Joe, you really should get the UM Miracles. There's a lot of buzz on Head-Fi about them and I ordered one. Still waiting for it to come though. 

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Originally Posted by average_joe View Post

Also, I tell everyone they should buy based on their personal preference, not what pleases others most.

Moral of the story: get what you will enjoy.  If you don't yet know what that is, buy cheaper stuff and figure out what you like and don't like, then ask for "upgrades" to what you like.  There are several people on here that can give quite good recommendations.  /tangent

That is some seriously sound advice! I honestly mean that. Thank you for that, average_joe.
post #21 of 64
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Originally Posted by lin0003 View Post

Joe, you really should get the UM Miracles. There's a lot of buzz on Head-Fi about them and I ordered one. Still waiting for it to come though. 

 

If I had a dollar for every time someone suggested I get the Miracle, I would have it right now, lol.  I do have the PP6 which, from what I understand, has a similar sound signature to the Miracle, but is technically more competent.  

 

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Originally Posted by Oof Oink View Post

That is some seriously sound advice! I honestly mean that. Thank you for that, average_joe.

 

Thank you and I hope you find the right IEMs for you!

post #22 of 64

What can I say another great review, nothing is left out. 

post #23 of 64

Thumbs up for another extremely 'useful in the real world review' (the Average Joe hallmark).  My sole disappointment is the subject was the SM64 and not the EM6

post #24 of 64
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

What can I say another great review, nothing is left out. 

 

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Originally Posted by Deviltooth View Post

Thumbs up for another extremely 'useful in the real world review' (the Average Joe hallmark).  My sole disappointment is the subject was the SM64 and not the EM6

 

Thank you both!  While I can't say when, I think that will come at some point.

post #25 of 64

Thank you Joe, 

 

I have bought one pair, will receive it tomorrow.

 

I had the EM4 and now enjoying the EM6, these are supposed to be a mix between the open sound (out of the head soundstage) of the EM4 and the neutrality/dynamics of my EM6... 

 

Really looking forward. 

post #26 of 64

The only thing which is holding me back is the forwardness that is keep on coming up in all reviews. I love to send my CK100PRO to you one day so you can have a listen and possibly review in a near future. 

post #27 of 64

@average_joe

This is a VERY nice review. Your way of writing comparison is excellent ! I like it much.

 

And this.... :

" get what you will enjoy.  If you don't yet know what that is, buy cheaper stuff and figure out what you like and don't like, then ask for "upgrades" to what you like.  There are several people on here that can give quite good recommendations "

... should be quoted as BEST ADVICE OF THE YEAR, especially here in HeadFi, where people is getting drifted away deeply into poison valley of temptation....(i am talking a drying wallet biggrin.gif)

post #28 of 64
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Originally Posted by sly_in_the_sky View Post

Thank you Joe, 

 

I have bought one pair, will receive it tomorrow.

 

I had the EM4 and now enjoying the EM6, these are supposed to be a mix between the open sound (out of the head soundstage) of the EM4 and the neutrality/dynamics of my EM6... 

 

Really looking forward. 

 

Nice!  I hope to hear the EM6 some day and be able to do a direct comparison with the EM4.  Let us know what you think.

 

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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

The only thing which is holding me back is the forwardness that is keep on coming up in all reviews. I love to send my CK100PRO to you one day so you can have a listen and possibly review in a near future. 

 

I wouldn't say the SM64 is forward.  Thanks for offering your CK100PRO, but I have too many other reviews in line at this time.

 

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Originally Posted by muzic4life View Post

@average_joe

This is a VERY nice review. Your way of writing comparison is excellent ! I like it much.

 

And this.... :

... should be quoted as BEST ADVICE OF THE YEAR, especially here in HeadFi, where people is getting drifted away deeply into poison valley of temptation....(i am talking a drying wallet biggrin.gif)

 

Thank you.  Yes, I could care less what people buy, as long as they get what is best for them.  If someone prefers the sound of something cheaper, more power to them.  If they find perfection in the smallest number of steps, and don't feel the need to try to find something better, great for them!

 

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Originally Posted by Barry Cheddar View Post

400 Euros for something that still looks like it came out a Kinder Egg?

 

No mention of build quality at all in the OP's review - or am I missing something?

 

I had the SM3s a while back. They sounded great, but broke on me twice within a year.

 

These new ones look just as shonky.

 

They're earphones. You put them in your pocket and you go about your business. You shouldn't have to fork out a week's wages and wear velvet gloves when you handle them.

 

Sod that for a game for a soldiers.

 

I don't recommend putting any brand of earphones in your pocket if you want them to last.  Sure, there may be some that will be able to take the abuse, but they come with a case for a reason.  I had the original SM3 and my shells came apart, I used epoxy on them and never had that issue again.  The SM64 build quality is better than my original SM3, and I have seen plenty of IEMs, which is my basis.  Time will tell for the SM64, but I would expect just about any IEM to break in time if you put them in your pocket and go about your business.

post #29 of 64

Hey Joe, do you reckon a TWag V3 or V2 would brighten the sound? After much thought, I think that I may be leaving the custom world due to long wait times, impressions etc and the Earsonics SM64 seem like a nice IEM. 

post #30 of 64
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The TWag V2 will brighten the sound more than the V3, and if you will be happy with universals, the SM64 is quite good technically.

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