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post #571 of 630

Happy new owner of the excellent Parterre says hi~~

 

After an extended audition between the 334 and the Parterre, the Parterre was what I took home with, for its extra airiness, better balance, less aggressive overall sound (the 334 is aggressive in both mid-bass and mid attack I think..........which still sounds excellent but led to some fatigue), unmasked highs (I think the 334 highs is on par with the Parterre but may be masked by some of its mids sound) and a more ergonomic fit. Also I had a good time peeping inside the Parterre with a powerful torch hoping to get some hints of Suyama-san's magic voodoo he remained so secretive about :evil:

 

Now the official 100-150 hours burn in time................................(I'm no believer in burning in drivers or cables BUT since apparently Suyama-san planted capacitors inside the shell which DOES need time to perform up to level I'd abide..............for once)

post #572 of 630
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Happy new owner of the excellent Parterre says hi~~

 

After an extended audition between the 334 and the Parterre, the Parterre was what I took home with, for its extra airiness, better balance, less aggressive overall sound (the 334 is aggressive in both mid-bass and mid attack I think..........which still sounds excellent but led to some fatigue), unmasked highs (I think the 334 highs is on par with the Parterre but may be masked by some of its mids sound) and a more ergonomic fit. Also I had a good time peeping inside the Parterre with a powerful torch hoping to get some hints of Suyama-san's magic voodoo he remained so secretive about :evil:

 

Now the official 100-150 hours burn in time................................(I'm no believer in burning in drivers or cables BUT since apparently Suyama-san planted capacitors inside the shell which DOES need time to perform up to level I'd abide..............for once)

 

Do tell us what you see in there!!

post #573 of 630
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Do tell us what you see in there!!

 

The general thought I've heard is that it uses the Sonion AcuPass 1723.  Looking at mine with a bright light behind I think they may be right.  More info: http://www.sonion.com/Products/Transducers/Receivers/1723%20AcuPass%20TM.aspx

 

EDIT: Anybody know the impedance of the Parterre?


Edited by KraftD1 - 12/2/13 at 6:54am
post #574 of 630

I think to sum up the Parterre's sound in a few words: clean, delicate, transparent, mids-sweeter-than-neutral and balanced.

 

As opposed to 334: rich, full-bodied, hard-hitting, sharp, beefy and on the bassy side of balanced.

 

Two presentations, both truly top-notched I'd say. Make one wonder why other manufacturers can't get similar level of performance out of similar driver configurations.

post #575 of 630

Ok. I think I finally narrowed my choices and I will pick up either the FAD Heaven VI or the Parterre this week, hopefully they will be in before Christmas. Does anyone here have both? Can you make a comparison between them. The fitears are a more expensive option so hopefully they will perform much better... 

 

I'm looking for a sort of mid forward sound sig with airy vocals, a big soundstage and neutral bass. Clarity, detail and instrument seperation is also very important. Also, as stated previously I listen to a lot of Jpop and Jrock and both have been recommended to me. 


Edited by Love Music - 12/9/13 at 10:16am
post #576 of 630

Aren't FAD iems usually very genre specific iems?

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Ok. I think I finally narrowed my choices and I will pick up either the FAD Heaven VI or the Parterre this week, hopefully they will be in before Christmas. Does anyone here have both? Can you make a comparison between them. The fitears are a more expensive option so hopefully they will perform much better... 

 

I'm looking for a sort of mid forward sound sig with airy vocals, a big soundstage and neutral bass. Clarity, detail and instrument seperation is also very important. Also, as stated previously I listen to a lot of Jpop and Jrock and both have been recommended to me. 

 

post #577 of 630
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Aren't FAD iems usually very genre specific iems?

I listened to both my Parterre's and FAD Heaven S's last night, and have to say both are wonderful iems. If I had to pick genres, I'd say jazz and classical with the Parterre's, and rock and electronica with the FAD's, though both sound great with pretty much everything.  FAD's are very detailed, kind of like an ER 4s with more bass punch.  They are slightly more in your head than the  Parterre's, but render great precision with both the treble and bass.  The mids are slightly more forward, which make them great for vocals, especially female.  The Parterre's are just more cohesive, no part of the range really overpowers any other.  They are less in your head, and sound, to me, is more natural.  I think the timbre of instruments is a personal choice, like the Parterre captures a feel of being more in the presence of the instruments, while the FAD gives more of a studio sound (sorry if this is a bad analogy; I've listened in at recording studios, but not great recording studios).  Parterre's do a much better job with poorly recorded material.  Both are pretty much non-fatiguing.

Sorry, I don't have the Heaven VI's, but I expect the FAD signature is relatively close (not considering the Piano Forte line).  Again, without auditioning, it's hard for me to try to convince anyone the price difference is worth it.  I've kept both because the signatures are so different.

post #578 of 630
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I listened to both my Parterre's and FAD Heaven S's last night, and have to say both are wonderful iems. If I had to pick genres, I'd say jazz and classical with the Parterre's, and rock and electronica with the FAD's, though both sound great with pretty much everything.  FAD's are very detailed, kind of like an ER 4s with more bass punch.  They are slightly more in your head than the  Parterre's, but render great precision with both the treble and bass.  The mids are slightly more forward, which make them great for vocals, especially female.  The Parterre's are just more cohesive, no part of the range really overpowers any other.  They are less in your head, and sound, to me, is more natural.  I think the timbre of instruments is a personal choice, like the Parterre captures a feel of being more in the presence of the instruments, while the FAD gives more of a studio sound (sorry if this is a bad analogy; I've listened in at recording studios, but not great recording studios).  Parterre's do a much better job with poorly recorded material.  Both are pretty much non-fatiguing.

Sorry, I don't have the Heaven VI's, but I expect the FAD signature is relatively close (not considering the Piano Forte line).  Again, without auditioning, it's hard for me to try to convince anyone the price difference is worth it.  I've kept both because the signatures are so different.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Does that mean that the Parterre doesn't sound good with female vocals, rock/metal and indie music?

 

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Aren't FAD iems usually very genre specific iems?

Yeah, but from the reviews I've read so far it seems that the Heaven VI's seems to be great all rounders.   

post #579 of 630
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. Does that mean that the Parterre doesn't sound good with female vocals, rock/metal and indie music?

 

Yeah, but from the reviews I've read so far it seems that the Heaven VI's seems to be great all rounders.   

Not at all!  The Parterre's sound good with everything, I was trying to mention some strong suits in each.  As an example, female vocals on the parterre sound perfectly balanced with the instrumentation; not forward, not recessed.  With the FAD, they are slightly forward, and some listeners prefer that to an overall balanced sound. Personally, the mids are what make or break an earphone or headphone for me, and I love the mids on both.  Really, neither has an inherent  weakness with any genre of music.  So, yes, I can see both as great all rounders.  And I listen to everything from the Berlin Philharmonic to Led Zeppelin to Muddy Waters to the Black Keys.  By the way, both are incredibly well constructed iems and wear very comfortably!!  If over ear cables make a difference to you, that might also be a consideration.


Edited by fiascogarcia - 12/10/13 at 11:10am
post #580 of 630
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Not at all!  The Parterre's sound good with everything, I was trying to mention some strong suits in each.  As an example, female vocals on the parterre sound perfectly balanced with the instrumentation; not forward, not recessed.  With the FAD, they are slightly forward, and some listeners prefer that to an overall balanced sound. Personally, the mids are what make or break an earphone or headphone for me, and I love the mids on both.  Really, neither has an inherent  weakness with any genre of music.  So, yes, I can see both as great all rounders.  And I listen to everything from the Berlin Philharmonic to Led Zeppelin to Muddy Waters to the Black Keys.  By the way, both are incredibly well constructed iems and wear very comfortably!!  If over ear cables make a difference to you, that might also be a consideration.

Thanks fiascogarcia, that really helped a lot. Leaning towards the Parterres but just before I hit the buy button I always back out because of the price...


Edited by Love Music - 12/11/13 at 9:14am
post #581 of 630

should definitely try to try it before you buy it. sadly i have yet to follow my advice haha

post #582 of 630
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should definitely try to try it before you buy it. sadly i have yet to follow my advice haha

Haha. Too bad I don't get to try them from where I stay.

post #583 of 630
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Haha. Too bad I don't get to try them from where I stay.

 

I didn't get to try them before I purchased either.  I know it's hard because it is a big investment.  And your perfect sound is going to be different from mine (not to mention the source and amplification).  You have to take everyone's opinion with a grain of salt, and as I said, my impressions are based on the Heaven S, not the VI's.  With either choice I feel like you're going to end up with a pretty high end iem.  Just my opinion, but just in case, it seems like FitEar has a little better resale value should you end up disappointed.  Good luck!

post #584 of 630
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I didn't get to try them before I purchased either.  I know it's hard because it is a big investment.  And your perfect sound is going to be different from mine (not to mention the source and amplification).  You have to take everyone's opinion with a grain of salt, and as I said, my impressions are based on the Heaven S, not the VI's.  With either choice I feel like you're going to end up with a pretty high end iem.  Just my opinion, but just in case, it seems like FitEar has a little better resale value should you end up disappointed.  Good luck!

Thanks fiascogarcia. 

post #585 of 630

Any info on the impedance and sensitivity of the Parterre?  I wanted to use the SPL estimator when playing music (CanOpener), but need some specs to make it accurate.

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