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I only listened to the TH900 for 10' or so so take whatever I'm saying with a pinch of salt. Anyway, to me the there's a vast difference between the Parterre and TH900 across the whole spectrum. The TH900 is no doubt thinner and colder sounding than the Parterre, there's less emphasis on the midrange compared to the way the Parterre renders the mids. The TH900 also possesses more energy in the upper spectrum, as well as details and extension. However that would make the TH900 less intimate and musical. Bass on the  Parterre is fuller, with a tad more focus on quantity while with the TH900 there's better sense of space when you listen to the lower end. I'm not entirely sure which one has more bass since the TH900 was plugged into an amp at that time, but all in all the TH900 is more suitable for instrumental/classical while the Parterre will do better with vocal related genres. 

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@Mr. Sparrow

 

Thank you for your impressions. I'm a bit worried about the mids though. You described them before as not really forward and not really recessed. I'm not sure if that would be my sweet spot with vocals since we do hear things a bit differently I bet. That was the problem I had with the TH900s. 

 

I hear the Parterre would be closer to the Kaedes/TH900s than the 334 would, and not sure if it's something I'd want.

I believe most of my music would benefit more from an exaggerated mid section instead of something more naturally sounding (could be wrong, but that's what I've concluded for now).

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there is out there a flock of birds that feed on punchy vivid sound and find the er4 signature to be boring eek.gif .

 

Perhaps I should clarify — boring or dull compared to phones like the Parterre, K3003, FI-BA-SS (& SB), FAD's 160Xs, KAEDE and a certain phone I find excellent, the HD800.

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Now, this is getting awfully confusing for a 98-year-old terribly cranky sparrow (eek.gifcool.gifbasshead.gif).   ;)

 

First off, I don't find the KAEDEs fatiguing, either—for the most part, that is (95+% of the albums I've thrown at them), but I do find the midrange and treble quality on the K3003s & Parterres more convincing / correct / lifelike, clearly so, and yet... and yet the KAEDEs have this very addicting quality to them that make them a very special phone, a phone that renders certain tracks / music like no other phone.

 

TBH, I think you already know you want to get the 334s, so go ahead and get yourself a pair!

 

As for the PFs, they're the one IEM that I would insist—for those seriously interested in them—people spend a least 3-4 days with them and possibly not listen to other phones during that period — the PF's sonics can be (a bit of) a shock to some/many people—they were certainly a shock to me—but... well, it's all there in the FAD thread.

Hmm. Might as well get the 334s then. They seem completely different from what I currently own, so that's a good thing I guess. More variety. Though that curiosity for the Parterres will always remain :(.

 

Hmm, regarding the PFs, if I wanted an IEM that totally throws out everything and concentrates only on the male/female singer, would this be it? That is the effect I'm looking for. As in, the first idea that pops in your mind is: "Oh, these vocals are so euphoric". Not necessarily "real" or "lifelike" ...but.... addicting in another way? 

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they are not perfect, not at all but for everyday use on all kind of musics I would pic the 334.

on classic, anything where percussion isn't freely rampaging like cool jazz, I would go for the Parterre.

 

Eve Tan my view on this is: if you weren't bothered by too much bass and didn't find the high mids lacking on the 334, then you shouldn't bother with the Parterre.

As long as the bass doesn't detract from the vocals (as in overshadow), it should suit my preference. I listen to more modern type genres (Jpop,rock,Anisong,OSTs), but when I do, the first thing I think about is how the IEM will render the female/male singers.

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but all in all the TH900 is more suitable for instrumental/classical while the Parterre will do better with vocal related genres. 

I guess I wasn't wrong with my decision to sell off my TH900s. Cough cough they're still available wink.gif.

 

And I can't really make new purchases without liquidizing it.

 

 

*And one more, thanks to all that helped me :)


Edited by EveTan - 9/2/13 at 12:36am
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Hmm. Might as well get the 334s then. They seem completely different from what I currently own, so that's a good thing I guess. More variety. Though that curiosity for the Parterres will always remain :(.

 

Hmm, regarding the PFs, if I wanted an IEM that totally throws out everything and concentrates only on the male/female singer, would this be it? That is the effect I'm looking for. As in, the first idea that pops in your mind is: "Oh, these vocals are so euphoric". Not necessarily "real" or "lifelike" ...but.... addicting in another way? 

As long as the bass doesn't detract from the vocals (as in overshadow), it should suit my preference. I listen to more modern type genres (Jpop,rock,Anisong,OSTs), but when I do, the first thing I think about is how the IEM will render the female/male singers.

I guess I wasn't wrong with my decision to sell off my TH900s. Cough cough they're still available wink.gif.

 

And I can't really make new purchases without liquidizing it.

 

 

*And one more, thanks to all that helped me :)

 

 

 

Well I don't think you should discount the Private 333 or 223 FitEar customs, of which I prefer over the ToGo series....If vocals are your thing then the 333 will do it for you..and for a very balanced sounding pair of customs the 223 are near perfect. 333 are priced at 334 territory and 223 at Parterre.

 

The fit of the customs are near perfect and basically a custom sum universal............

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Well I don't think you should discount the Private 333 or 223 FitEar customs, of which I prefer over the ToGo series....If vocals are your thing then the 333 will do it for you..and for a very balanced sounding pair of customs the 223 are near perfect. 333 are priced at 334 territory and 223 at Parterre.

The fit of the customs are near perfect and basically a custom sum universal............

Too bad I'm not near a reseller or I'd get one right now. I'll be able to get one this summer though, so in the meantime, I'll play around with universals.
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Originally Posted by EveTan View Post

Hmm. Might as well get the 334s then. They seem completely different from what I currently own, so that's a good thing I guess. More variety. Though that curiosity for the Parterres will always remain :(.

 

Hmm, regarding the PFs, if I wanted an IEM that totally throws out everything and concentrates only on the male/female singer, would this be it? That is the effect I'm looking for. As in, the first idea that pops in your mind is: "Oh, these vocals are so euphoric". Not necessarily "real" or "lifelike" ...but.... addicting in another way?

 

*And one more, thanks to all that helped me :)

 

Like I said, I rarely recommend or mention the PFs, they're a bit of an acquired taste (perhaps an understatement). To me, they're not euphonic or addicting, they are compelling, they demand to be heard and it's a phone that, to me personally, is not only about liking or loving but needing. The PFs are more than a shamelessly midcentric phone, and when they get things right, the Parterre (and 334 previously), K3003, HD800, FI-BA-SS, KAEDE or EX1000 don't come even close.

You've auditioned the 334s already and liked them quite a bit—part of you has already made a decision to get a pair. If still unsure, you may want to wait a bit longer for more Parterre impressions. One thing's certain, you'd be able to sell your 334s (or Parterres) almost instantly while the PFs may prove a more difficult sale if you're not convinced or soon get bored and want to try something else.

 

So, FWIW, I've sold my 334s, have sold my IE800s, have sold my F111s, have sold my EX1000s, been trying to sell my midcentric customs (ES3X) for over a year. I've had my PF IXs (and 1601SS) for over a year now and never once have I considered getting rid of them. If you have more questions about the PFs, perhaps best to ask them in the FAD thread (several PF owners own or have heard the 334s and/or the KAEDEs and several other very good ear/headphones).


Edited by music_4321 - 9/2/13 at 2:09am
post #382 of 637
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Originally Posted by EveTan View Post

As long as the bass doesn't detract from the vocals (as in overshadow), it should suit my preference. I listen to more modern type genres (Jpop,rock,Anisong,OSTs), but when I do, the first thing I think about is how the IEM will render the female/male singers.

I guess I wasn't wrong with my decision to sell off my TH900s. Cough cough they're still available wink.gif.

 

And I can't really make new purchases without liquidizing it.

 

 

*And one more, thanks to all that helped me :)


Wait what? Never thought I would find another person with same taste in this thread biggrin.gif I too listen to anime songs and Jpop all the time, more like out of 40 or so foobar playlists there're only 2 or 3 that have nothing to do with anime biggrin.gif

 

Anyway... if you're gonna use the Parterre extensively for those genres I would recommend waiting a bit more till FitEar releases the universalized version of the Monet. While there's no doubt the Parterre is great for vocal, it doesn't have that special touch in the upper midrange that makes seiyuu-san's vocal shine. Out of most phones I've tried so far only the W3000ANV (owning) and A2000X are capable of doing that. And after listening to Suyama-san's explanation of the Monet's tuning I'm pretty sure it will do those genres justice.


Edited by tranhieu - 9/2/13 at 2:25am
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Wait what? Never thought I would find another person with same taste in this thread biggrin.gif I too listen to anime songs and Jpop all the time, more like out of 40 or so foobar playlists there're only 2 or 3 that have nothing to do with anime biggrin.gif

Anyway... if you're gonna use the Parterre extensively for those genres I would recommend waiting a bit more till FitEar releases the universalized version of the Monet. While there's no doubt the Parterre is great for vocal, it doesn't have that special touch in the upper midrange that makes seiyuu-san's vocal shine. Out of most phones I've tried so far only the W3000ANV (owning) and A2000X are capable of doing that. And after listening to Suyama-san's explanation of the Monet's tuning I'm pretty sure it will do those genres justice.

Haha, my library is basically exclusively anisong. Would you happen to know how the
Parterre is vs the 334s? Especially since we do share similar tastes. O and not to disappoint you, but I heard that the Monet was a bit lackluster for even the anisong genre they were intended for. My friend Kalbee demoed them (another member of head-fi's anime thread) and thought they were a bit thin and a bit disappointing. Unless Suyama-San ends up improving the Monets, I don't think they'd be a good choice for me.

On a random tangent, I wish I could try out a W3000. But I ended up concluding that those types of cans are too fragile for my daily usage. Would hate to get a scratch on them...similar to how I've been caring for my Th900s now.
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Haha, my library is basically exclusively anisong. Would you happen to know how the
Parterre is vs the 334s? Especially since we do share similar tastes. O and not to disappoint you, but I heard that the Monet was a bit lackluster for even the anisong genre they were intended for. My friend Kalbee demoed them (another member of head-fi's anime thread) and thought they were a bit thin and a bit disappointing. Unless Suyama-San ends up improving the Monets, I don't think they'd be a good choice for me.

On a random tangent, I wish I could try out a W3000. But I ended up concluding that those types of cans are too fragile for my daily usage. Would hate to get a scratch on them...similar to how I've been caring for my Th900s now.


It's quite hard to judge the sound based solely on the demo. I too talked to another head-fi member awhile ago and he too is a big vocaloid lover. He said his Monet is even superior to the JH13 when it comes to anime songs and it even shares some characteristics which remind him of his SR009 (believe it or not) biggrin.gifAnyway I'm not surprised if someone comments on them being thin, since there is a small dip of -10db within 1-1.5khz to emphasize the upper midrange region, which might come across as thin or recessed to people who are not used to anime songs. 

 

I wrote a post comparing those 2 around 2 weeks ago also in this thread. But if it's Jpop and anisong you're talking about I suppose the Parterre will make a better choice. While bass on the TG334 is great, it will become overwhelming and tiring at times, plus treble is another factor that makes it not a good choice for anime songs (not enough sparkle and quantity). The Parterre on the other hand handles low frequency much better and its treble is more energetic while doesn't get sibilant at the same time.

 

Personally speaking I still get the feeling the Parterre's mids is a tad too thick for listening and watching anime. They're great all rounder IEMs but when it comes to said genres they're not that excellent, I want more upper mid.

 

 

 

On the side note I've been abusing my W3000 for a year or so and it doesn't get even a single scratch so far biggrin.gifJust wrap the earcups with a few layers of cling film and you're good to go, though it's a bit unsightly lol


Edited by tranhieu - 9/2/13 at 4:34am
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Today i just received my new Parterre...i think the Parterre is a better match with my Tera Player compared to my TG334. This could be my favorite iem to go with Tera but not sure yet, still need some more time to learn the sound before i decide to be the best.

 

 

I think the Parterre and TG334 shares a similar sound. The difference is that the parterre is more laid back, a tad lesser body in the sound, better sound stage IMO, and has a tad more treble in the presentation. The tg334 has a fuller body and more forward presentation, is like more in the head presentation and i think is better for something like vocal jazz or alike, while the Parterre has some distance presentation makes it better for classical/orchestra/instrumental songs - is more relaxing. I tried the 000 cable to my Parterre, but i think 000 cable is paired better with tg334 than the Parterre.

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I want more upper mid.

Have you considered the ER4?
post #387 of 637

Well I was just comparing between the 2, not that I am actually looking for a pair myself. 

 

That aside, the ER4 isn't very good for listening to flawed recordings, anime songs for example. 

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Have you considered the ER4?
post #388 of 637

Not that it matters much perhaps, but I thought I should mention I switched to Ortofon tips (from stock single flange tips) about 2 weeks ago — the most noticeable change was/is the bass sounds slightly cleaner, but the whole presentation is slightly more evened out, just a wonderful tonal balance. But of course, as most people should know, different tips and tip sizes will work differently for each person.


Edited by music_4321 - 9/2/13 at 2:19pm
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the ortofon tips are also VASTLY more comfortable
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the ortofon tips are also VASTLY more comfortable

 

I personally don't find them "VASTLY" more comfortable, only very slightly more so or pretty much the same, TBH. It was the actual small sonic changes I heard that made me stick to the Ortofon tips, particularly, as noted, the rendering of low freqs. Like I said above, different tips will work differently for each individual (in all areas: SQ, comfort and seal).

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