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post #61 of 82

sony xperia z1 sounds better to my ears (using vsonic gro7 bass edition) when compare to samsung galaxy 2 and htc 1(using stock music player on all three)

post #62 of 82
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Originally Posted by JohannLiebert View Post
 

Iphone 4 hands down. Just puchased one and like it better than my Samsung Note2 with Voodoo.

Soz for the necro-Just stumbled across this thread and After hearing good comments on the iphone 4s i can agree with this.Bloody good sq imho

post #63 of 82

I'm not seeing anyone quoting about Alcatel One Touch Idol X+ aka TCL Idol X+ for a audiophile grade smartphone.

 

Its supposed to be THE BEST smartphone for audiophile grade quality with the Sabre ES9018 DAC & Maxim 9720 headphone amplifier & supports 192 Khz 24bit playback natively. It also ships with a JBL In Ear head phones which when combined with this DAC & Amp might be one mighty combination.

 

This Sabre ES9018 is found in the Oppo BDP-105 Blu ray player & is one of the best audiophile grade blu ray player.

 

Any one have come across this phone yet / have first hand experience with the audio quality ?

post #64 of 82
There are some Chinese phones with decent sound, but no one mentioned them. This is what called "marketing": iPhone, Samsung, HTC and nothing else...
I owned HTC One, I owned iPhone5.
IPhone sounds a way better than HTC.
And the reason is its sound is ALIVE, meaty, juicy, whatever. HTC produces clean and loud, but boring flat sound with weak mid frequencies. It's such a disaster, that the sound was the only reason I sold it.

Actually VIVO has a great small model, also there is OPPO r815, JIAYU S2, MEIZU MX2 (MX3)... The problem with most of them is lack of memory, not able to expand.

As to different external stuff - I really do not understand... To look for all in one compact thing, but to plug in various stuff to it, making it look like a fully armored new year tree with present boxes under? :-D

Just want to underline:
friends, do not narrow your sight with scanty marketing kings, open your eyes wider: there are a lot of nice phones with great sound for a smaller price! Find out characteristics on some audio profile sites, not favoured by Samsung or whoever...

P.S. I also wonder about Idol X+, but have heard it got ancient amplifier and after all it sounded worse than Meizu MX3, don't know if it's true, need more opinions. But I really need dual sim phone with great sound, since carrying two now is not great.
Edited by alexandis - 5/29/14 at 5:42am
post #65 of 82
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Originally Posted by alexandis View Post

There are some Chinese phones with decent sound, but no one mentioned them. This is what called "marketing": iPhone, Samsung, HTC and nothing else...
I owned HTC One, I owned iPhone5.
IPhone sounds a way better than HTC.
And the reason is its sound is ALIVE, meaty, juicy, whatever. HTC produces clean and loud, but boring flat sound with weak mid frequencies. It's such a disaster, that the sound was the only reason I sold it.

Actually VIVO has a great small model, also there is OPPO r815, JIAYU S2, MEIZU MX2 (MX3)... The problem with most of them is lack of memory, not able to expand.

As to different external stuff - I really do not understand... To look for all in one compact thing, but to plug in various stuff to it, making it look like a fully armored new year tree with present boxes under? :-D

Just want to underline:
friends, do not narrow your sight with scanty marketing kings, open your eyes wider: there are a lot of nice phones with great sound for a smaller price! Find out characteristics on some audio profile sites, not favoured by Samsung or whoever...

P.S. I also wonder about Idol X+, but have heard it got ancient amplifier and after all it sounded worse than Meizu MX3, don't know if it's true, need more opinions. But I really need dual sim phone with great sound, since carrying two now is not great.

 

 

You're the one narrowing your sights by proclaiming you're better than the rest of us. Who are you to say we're all influenced by marketing? What if I told you I looked into the Vivo products and simply DID NOT LIKE THEM? :tongue_smile:

 

I happen to think this year's new HTC one is more meaty, juicy than the iphone 5S. The situation has turned 180 and your assessment is outdated. Things change all the time.

post #66 of 82
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Originally Posted by heatofamatch View Post


You're the one narrowing your sights by proclaiming you're better than the rest of us. Who are you to say we're all influenced by marketing? What if I told you I looked into the Vivo products and simply DID NOT LIKE THEM? tongue_smile.gif

There was anything in the post, saying I'm better than someone. It's just that things look suspicious, when everyone is discussing two or three the most loud brands wink.gif

There are actually a few of less known brands that produce decent sound and you have no to overpay for brand.

Just an example:
Dual SIM Galaxy S4 is expected for 800 bucks. Are they crazy? You can pay twice as less buying some proved Chinese phone and what you lose is mainly a loud brand label on your device and maybe some service support...
post #67 of 82

HTC One M8 better than Iphone 5s in SQ? o.o

post #68 of 82
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Originally Posted by alexandis View Post

Dual SIM Galaxy S4 is expected for 800 bucks. Are they crazy? You can pay twice as less buying some proved Chinese phone and what you lose is mainly a loud brand label on your device and maybe some service support...

To be fair they spend hundreds of millions on advertising, much more than any other android brands, no?

"Some" service support would be understating what the galaxy range offers, it has way more features than any of the chinese phone.. Not that I've used any of the chinese phones before but seen some reviews on the popular tech sites.. They may offer modern hardware but that isn't everything..

 

I'm actually using the M8 atm so I'm not being bias.. but it's a fact. Without Samsung, android wouldn't have penetrated the market so quickly, so no matter how bad touchwiz is, they still deserve some credibility..

 

Not quite sure why, but were you expecting them to compete with the chinese phones by such comparison?

post #69 of 82

I use the HTC One M7 with my Sennheiser HD335s and Audio-Technica CKS99. First of all, the Beats audio profile doesn't mean anything to me. I have it switched off most of the time. It's nothing but a glorified EQ profile. i use Poweramp mostly. The output quality is very good. The volume is a bit lower for my liking on the Sennheiser but it has great depth. No complains so far.

post #70 of 82

"IPhone sounds a way better than HTC."

 

Damn, HTC is the best audiophone,  you can find a lot of reviews about that. I use HTC ONE with poweramp, put off Beats, find the perfect equalizer of Poweramp on Google, pluging only with a Sennheiser CX 215, and it sound great, i tried with Momentum. I listen MP3 but a lot of FLAC too, HTC ONE M7/M8 and maybe Xperia Z2 are the only ones who can used as a musical player for "audiophile".

 

Apple will enhance their Iphone soon maybe, that's why they bought Beats, just not only for marketing as HTC but for increase the sound (hardware) too, because Beats it's only an equalizer.

post #71 of 82
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Originally Posted by alexandis View Post


There was anything in the post, saying I'm better than someone. It's just that things look suspicious, when everyone is discussing two or three the most loud brands wink.gif

 

1. Yes there were. The moment you said "open your eyes wider" you became very offensive, very rude. The wink makes it worse.

2. Sometimes the discussion is limited because we live in countries with no access to those brands (how many phones has Meizu sold outside China?)

3. This forum has a huge presence of chinese products, so it's not a good place to accuse people of "not having heard" this or that. Personally I give the crowd here a lot of credit for embracing anything that has a possibility of sounding good without prejudice.

4. It is neither necessary, nor desirable, for every product to be the best in every department. Samsung never claimed sonic excellence in the way, for example, HTC has in the past with the Sensation XE.

 

I may not over-pay for brand, but I may over-pay because I want a certain stability to my software. I may over-pay because I want aesthetics. I'm not biased against any product. I do not worship any brand (unlike what you apparently think). Give me what I want and I'll jump ship. Isn't that more intelligent than you give me credit for? :tongue_smile:


Edited by heatofamatch - 6/29/14 at 9:40am
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post #73 of 82
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That voltage chart, in its initial state when you first load the page, does not include all of the other phones Phone Arena has tested. So it's not that all unlisted phones are lower than the Z1's 0.29V. If you use the search box and insert more phones, you'll find they go among the ranks and not all below 0.29V.

 

The iPhone 4S gives you lower voltage than the Acer Liquid Z3.

The Z3 even goes 0.01V higher than the Galaxy S4.

The HTC desire 300 gives you more voltage than the iphone 5.

The Nokia Asha 503 at 0.70V is higher than all of them.

I've heard these phones, I feel that the Xperia E1 at 0.22V is not necessarily quieter than the Lumia 520 at 0.67V.

Less dynamic? Perhaps, just a bit, but it's not by the difference between 0.22 and 0.67. :D

 

I'm not sure if this is the whole story, or even part of the story at all, even for volume. I would mention the voltage in relation to say, a discussion on the M8, but only because the power seems apparent and corroborates the figures, but otherwise these numbers feel an awful lot like a rehash of the mW output game, when all Sony walkmans would be 5+5mW@16ohm on paper but don't all have the same output IRL. :wink: 

post #74 of 82

The HTC (M7, M8) and Samsung(S3, S5) offerings had a horrible hiss on high sensitivity IEM's. Can't do it.

post #75 of 82

If you are willing to settle for an older model, Note 2 has wolfson DAC, low impedance, easily rooted and many kernels support voodoo sound, has external micro sd.

I have a nice set up with a Note 2, omni rom, voodoo sound, 128 Gb storage, Neutron as the player.  Absolutely black between tracks, no hiss, crackles using Shure 535 with grey filters.

 

I have stuck with this since there is really nothing comparable in new models(all use on CPU dac's and are pseudo audiophile--ie--Beats)

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