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post #46 of 49
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Originally Posted by watchnerd View Post
 

 

No...you're ignoring free-air vs sealed driver resonances.

 

I know of no headphone that uses the same exact driver to make both a closed and open variant of the same.  Even if they did, the resonant frequency (absent EQ) would be different, thus making them different headphones.

 

I don't understand the point of this thread...

 

Yes, my bad.  I can remove the wooden cups from my Denon D5K, which would probably be the closest thing to a legitimate test from a non-scientific consumer option.  The various, though subtle, FR differences found in recent Massdrop Fostex TH-X00 headphones should have been a reminder to me that cups both opened and closed, can make a difference in FR.  I was trying too hard to conjure up a situation where a combination of room environment and open headphones could be made to sound identical to a closed headphone.

post #47 of 49
It is generally accepted that closed backs will sound different to openbacks, because the theory is highly plausible, perhaps it is easily picked in a double blind test.

I pose the question, can we look at a set of measurements from a dummy ear and derive from the data alone, with absolute certainty, whether the data was obtained from a closed or openback can?

We are sending people to colonise Mars in the absolute confidence in our measurements.
post #48 of 49

Just saw this thread pop up on the "recent" feed.

 

I posted this elsewhere but will do here too. I bought both Audeze EL-8s, open and close to test out. I can say without a doubt that open sounds not only different to closed, but SIGNIFICANTLY better. More clarity, "fuller" sound, and more details in instrumentation. Closed sounded very "thin" comparatively....

 

I was actually expecting them to sound fairly similar but they did not. I had both sets playing the same songs, going back and forth. Did this for a few days, swapping which cans I listened too first and playing various genres (alternative, indie, pop, r&b, funk, rap, reggae/dancehall, jazz). I had my wife listen too, and without any bias, she immediately noticed huge difference in sound and said keep the open ones.

 

Not definitive as it's a small sample size and only 1 brand, but for me, difference was remarkable. Clear difference between open and closed. Obviously, closed got returned.

post #49 of 49
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Originally Posted by labfm1 View Post

Just saw this thread pop up on the "recent" feed.

I posted this elsewhere but will do here too. I bought both Audeze EL-8s, open and close to test out. I can say without a doubt that open sounds not only different to closed, but SIGNIFICANTLY better. More clarity, "fuller" sound, and more details in instrumentation. Closed sounded very "thin" comparatively....

I was actually expecting them to sound fairly similar but they did not. I had both sets playing the same songs, going back and forth. Did this for a few days, swapping which cans I listened too first and playing various genres (alternative, indie, pop, r&b, funk, rap, reggae/dancehall, jazz). I had my wife listen too, and without any bias, she immediately noticed huge difference in sound and said keep the open ones.

Not definitive as it's a small sample size and only 1 brand, but for me, difference was remarkable. Clear difference between open and closed. Obviously, closed got returned.
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Bloody obvious right?

Ability to decipher via measurement, not so...
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