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post #9526 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

Anyone been able to use the usb dac function to confirm that it does not run out of sync with the video?  My AK100 has this problem and I've looking for a replacement that well... works ;)

I've had no problems watching movies on my Macbook. Can't speak for Windows..

post #9527 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

Anyone been able to use the usb dac function to confirm that it does not run out of sync with the video?  My AK100 has this problem and I've looking for a replacement that well... works ;)

 

No problem watching movies and series on my pc, Windows 8.1

post #9528 of 19490

and BTW, the X5 sounds lovely!

 

3 weeks of use and in every listening session it impresses me

post #9529 of 19490
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Originally Posted by reihead View Post
 

No problem watching movies and series on my pc, Windows 8.1

 

Thanks brother.  I still wish the screen filled, you know, the screen, and that the wheel and screen were flush but otherwise the X5, on paper, is a really intelligent design.  The DX90 while prettier has design decisions that eat space and power without benefit... on paper.  Form v Function I suppose.

post #9530 of 19490

Well, Ive finally gotten through the growing pains of my x5. Learned how to do a better job of creating SD card files, learned how to operate it better, and I am really enjoying using and listening to it now. To tell the truth if it wasn't that I was into higher res recording I would probably stick with my I phone, but the detail with this player at  48-192 is fun. Its a real "Brick" and nicely made. I think it  will last a while. Lots of things I like to see done with the software, but I'm getting comfortable with, this after coming very close to returning it.

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Originally Posted by mordicai View Post

Well, Ive finally gotten through the growing pains of my x5. Learned how to do a better job of creating SD card files, learned how to operate it better, and I am really enjoying using and listening to it now. To tell the truth if it wasn't that I was into higher res recording I would probably stick with my I phone, but the detail with this player at  48-192 is fun. Its a real "Brick" and nicely made. I think it  will last a while. Lots of things I like to see done with the software, but I'm getting comfortable with, this after coming very close to returning it.

At least you own the player when I was done evaluating it, I felt like I was loosing a good music companion, took me quite a bit of courage to let it go, unfortunately it just have too many so called players so I can't afford buying every player coming my way. I still haven't said no and many times thought of pressing the buy button. It just does not help that James and Joe sent me a case for the X5, now I feel like buying one just to house it in there frown.gif
post #9532 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Pekku View Post
 

Has anyone here ever tried (or is using) X5 > RC-MH1 cables > M-100? I ordered the RC-MH1 to replace the default speakeasy cables because the mic and control modules kept getting snagged on my clothes and their audio-only cable is a little too long for my liking.

Haven't checked to see if anyone else replied to this, but I use that combination and the sound is great. Cable is just the right length, decent quality, a bit more stiff than the speakeasy cables. 

post #9533 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Wasatchsummits View Post
 

Haven't checked to see if anyone else replied to this, but I use that combination and the sound is great. Cable is just the right length, decent quality, a bit more stiff than the speakeasy cables. 

 

That's great! I was a little worried because the cable reportedly adds warmth to the sound. I'm thinking about using a heat shrink weave on the cable reduce the "snagginess" of it's rubber property.

post #9534 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

 

Actually the iPhone 4 and recent iPod Touches pretty much measure flat - and are some of the least coloured DAPs around.  I still love my iPhone4 as a source - despite having some "audiophile" gear.  Unfortunately most who complain about the differences, and put the i-devices down never take the time to properly volume level match when making comparisons.

 

So why buy devices like the Studio V3 Anniversary or X5 (I'll get my purchased version soon) - simple really - they have:

 - more memory options than my 32 Gb iPhone (so I can take more music with me)

 - they can drive more difficult loads without need for an additional amp (for me that means DT880 and HD600)

 

IMO (and in my own testing) my iP4 is actually slightly more neutral than either the V3 or X5.  The V3 is slightly brighter than neutral.  To me the X5 is very slightly more warm than neutral. All 3 are brilliant sources though - and each have their uses.


Well Brooko, I can't seem to get behind the whole idea of flat frequency response. I'm afraid I'm a bit more right brain dominant and besides, I also can't seem to find any use for looking for flat response. I'm not sure I believe in it at all. It all reminds me of the the days of stereo review, whose main premise and raison d'etre  was flat response which to me, blended really well with their very flat critiques which were all the same and might as well have been just copied again and again.

post #9535 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Ripvanlink View Post
 


Well Brooko, I can't seem to get behind the whole idea of flat frequency response. I'm afraid I'm a bit more right brain dominant and besides, I also can't seem to find any use for looking for flat response. I'm not sure I believe in it at all. It all reminds me of the the days of stereo review, whose main premise and raison d'etre  was flat response which to me, blended really well with their very flat critiques which were all the same and might as well have been just copied again and again.


What I mean is, there is a recording which I am familiar with on vinyl, a Turnabout recording of Rachmaninoff's Symphonic Dances with Donald Johanos and the Dallas Symphony. It is my all-time favorite recording because of its passion, its presence, emotion, airiness, soundstage, everything. I don't know whether this recording would be considered having flat response, but if it didn't, I couldn't care less. What I care about is how it affects me!

post #9536 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Ripvanlink View Post
 


Well Brooko, I can't seem to get behind the whole idea of flat frequency response. I'm afraid I'm a bit more right brain dominant and besides, I also can't seem to find any use for looking for flat response. I'm not sure I believe in it at all. It all reminds me of the the days of stereo review, whose main premise and raison d'etre  was flat response which to me, blended really well with their very flat critiques which were all the same and might as well have been just copied again and again.

 

Measurements are what they are.

 

What gets me though is how some people will claim one DAP has an "audiophile sound", which often has added colouration - and slag off at an iPhone.  Others will claim the iPhone sounds coloured  - when it obviously isn't (measurements).  Neither side will actually volume match using an SPL meter when comparing.  If they did that, I'd suggest that criticisms of the i-devices SQ might not be so strident.

 

It's up to you if you prefer your source coloured, headphones coloured, or to colour with EQ.  To me - the ideal is a source that is as neutral as possible, and then add colouration with EQ (hardware or software), or your headphones.  YMMV.

 

Saying that though - I absolutely enjoy my Studio V3 (slightly brighter than neutral), and the X5 (to me it's slightly warmer than neutral).  I regard both, and also the iPhone4 I have, as being stellar DAPs at what they do.

 

At the end of the day - listen to the signature you prefer - don't be told what to do by others.

post #9537 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Ripvanlink View Post
 


What I mean is, there is a recording which I am familiar with on vinyl, a Turnabout recording of Rachmaninoff's Symphonic Dances with Donald Johanos and the Dallas Symphony. It is my all-time favorite recording because of its passion, its presence, emotion, airiness, soundstage, everything. I don't know whether this recording would be considered having flat response, but if it didn't, I couldn't care less. What I care about is how it affects me!

 

I was talking about source as in player.  You're talking about music.  Of course music shouldn't be flat.  But if you have a piece of dynamic music that you love, and then play it on a source with a lot of colouration, it is intrinsically changed.  If you like that - great.  Again - personally I'd prefer my players to be as close to neutral as possible - and alter tonality myself with either EQ, different headphones, or tube choices ;)

post #9538 of 19490

Note that measurement is not just about frequency response. You also have noise and distortion (IMD and THD), phase, output impedance (dampening), SNR / DYR, transient / slew rate, crosstalk, and output power. All of these contribute to the final sound.

post #9539 of 19490

I find my iphone4 to be a bit tilted towards the bass a bit personally. The most neutral DAP I've heard to date was the DX100 on 1.1.7 followed by SFLO2 via its LO.

post #9540 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

 

I was talking about source as in player.  You're talking about music.  Of course music shouldn't be flat.  But if you have a piece of dynamic music that you love, and then play it on a source with a lot of colouration, it is intrinsically changed.  If you like that - great.  Again - personally I'd prefer my players to be as close to neutral as possible - and alter tonality myself with either EQ, different headphones, or tube choices ;)


Okay, I agree with that, actually. No, I don't like a lot of colouration but at the same time if my peculiar ears respond favorably to a particular piece of electronics and someone tells me it's not flat, my subjective experience takes precedence. I may have more sensitivity for a certain part of the sound spectrum b/c of my particular body type so I think something can be said for one's own subjective sensitivity.

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