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post #8431 of 19490
Bad news first:
X5 crashes nearly all the time changing b/n outputs( hpo/line out)

Good news is far more important:)
It is superb with SE846 i just got.
Also great with DX90, both tried with Vorzuge Pure ii (big improvement over hpo), x5 has a very clean output, love thatūüĎć
post #8432 of 19490
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Originally Posted by soundblast75 View Post

Bad news first:

X5 crashes nearly all the time changing b/n outputs( hpo/line out)



Good news is far more important:)

It is superb with SE846 i just got.

Also great with DX90, both tried with Vorzuge Pure ii (big improvement over hpo), x5 has a very clean output, love thatūüĎć

 



+1 on the synergy with the SE846. Have you tried the X5 with the E12 and the SE846, definately an improvment over the HPO on the X5 alone.
post #8433 of 19490
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Originally Posted by goldendarko View Post

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Originally Posted by soundblast75 View Post

Bad news first:

X5 crashes nearly all the time changing b/n outputs( hpo/line out)



Good news is far more important:)

It is superb with SE846 i just got.

Also great with DX90, both tried with Vorzuge Pure ii (big improvement over hpo), x5 has a very clean output, love thatūüĎć

 



+1 on the synergy with the SE846. Have you tried the X5 with the E12 and the SE846, definately an improvment over the HPO on the X5 alone.

I am still thinking of returning the x5 only because of my recent intense shopping, nothing to do with the quality of the product.
X5, dx90, pure ii, shure 846, great to try, but not sure i need to keep all of this:)
Selling zx1 and pha2, just no time to list it yet.

And to answer your q, no i haven't had a chance, would like to know if i can save money by returning the vorzuge and replace it with e12, tho i highly doubt it can step up to it.
Im sure its an upgrade to the hpo, all my amp are, i love the x5 e12 plus hs6 and thats why i got tempted to buy the x5, so i would appreciate if you think a £70-£90 amp is as good as a$500 one?
post #8434 of 19490
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Originally Posted by soundblast75 View Post

Bad news first:
X5 crashes nearly all the time changing b/n outputs( hpo/line out)

Good news is far more important:)
It is superb with SE846 i just got.
Also great with DX90, both tried with Vorzuge Pure ii (big improvement over hpo), x5 has a very clean output, love thatūüĎć

Which do you like more? The X5 or the DX90 in over all terms and with the shures?

And how significant the amp is to the dx90? I think that little guy has a lot of juice already..
post #8435 of 19490
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Originally Posted by soundblast75 View Post


Selling zx1 and pha2, just no time to list it yet.
 

 

Listening to a fellow forum owner's ZX1 got me into all this and I now have an X5 and DX90, as got fed up waiting for a local ZX1.

Assuming DX90 and X5 same ball park (my own opinion) how do you compare the ZX1 against them? I liked its wide soundstage and pure uncoloured sound but wondered how close these two are, as not able to compare.

post #8436 of 19490
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Originally Posted by zeppu08 View Post

Which do you like more? The X5 or the DX90 in over all terms and with the shures?

And how significant the amp is to the dx90? I think that little guy has a lot of juice already..

The DX90 is creamier, a bit more refined and luxury sounding to my ears, tho x5 is very clean and not far off at all, also the line out of the x5 is super pure and you don't need to put vol up all the way likedx90 (im no good with technicalities, both outputs are great, one's direct, the other one you can change to vol from either the unit or the amp, i tend to put the vol up, just to be sure i get best output).
Anyways, dx90 might be creamier, but both sound a little digital as opposed to the hifiman 801's analogue cream, so an amp improves things significantly imo.
With creamy iem like 846 and a good amp it just gets incredible, tho if im out id prob just stick to hpo, its good enough on both
post #8437 of 19490
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Originally Posted by AndrewH13 View Post

Listening to a fellow forum owner's ZX1 got me into all this and I now have an X5 and DX90, as got fed up waiting for a local ZX1.
Assuming DX90 and X5 same ball park (my own opinion) how do you compare the ZX1 against them? I liked its wide soundstage and pure uncoloured sound but wondered how close these two are, as not able to compare.
Zx1 is great, but to be honest i haven't used it since i got dx90 and then x5, meaning, yes, def the same ball park, just a matter of taste, i might try it out a bit later today, but i have already decided dx90 is my preferred choice as an overall winner, especially sound wise.
I imagine zx1 pairs great with the se846 tho, which i just got, ill let you know if I've had a last min surprise and a change of heart:)
post #8438 of 19490

Firstly can i thank Fiio for an excellent product that has already provided hours of enjoyment. Additionally Fiio take on board comments and ideas for improving the product and provide regular firmware updates to further enhance the x5.

 

My post is also about synergy.

 

I have a x5 with hs6 interconnect and i also bought a hs9 case which while not leather was very reasonably priced and is sturdy and useful.

 

I am using it with a slee voyager and find that both the nad hp50 and shure se530 work well and produce the warm but detailed and emotive sound i was looking for.

 

Apart from some nice additions to the firmware i would appreciate (replay gain being the most vital to me), my only concern is that the hpo is not quite as good as the line-out feeding the voyager and when i just want to carry around the x5 and se530's i would like it to be as good with iems as the line-out. To be fair the difference is one of degree (cleaner and deeper bass, slightly more treble defintion but in noisy environments not noticeable) but it would be good if the hpo was as good as the line-out.

 

BTW i use the custom EQ left flat to reduce the output on the line-out by 6db to have more adjustment on the volume control of the voyager.


Edited by magicalmouse - 5/3/14 at 3:21am
post #8439 of 19490
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Originally Posted by soundblast75 View Post

The DX90 is creamier, a bit more refined and luxury sounding to my ears, tho x5 is very clean and not far off at all, also the line out of the x5 is super pure and you don't need to put vol up all the way likedx90 (im no good with technicalities, both outputs are great, one's direct, the other one you can change to vol from either the unit or the amp, i tend to put the vol up, just to be sure i get best output).
Anyways, dx90 might be creamier, but both sound a little digital as opposed to the hifiman 801's analogue cream, so an amp improves things significantly imo.
With creamy iem like 846 and a good amp it just gets incredible, tho if im out id prob just stick to hpo, its good enough on both

Thanks for the feedback! I really got what you said. Hmm in terms of usage and battery life, which is the winner among the two?

And using the vorgz pure II with the dx90, does it changes the SQ and background of the dap? Soundstage and layering?
post #8440 of 19490
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Originally Posted by zeppu08 View Post


 Hmm in terms of usage and battery life, which is the winner among the two?
 

 

Havant measured them but X5 seems to have an hour or so longer I think. But DX90 has replaceable battery so swings and roundabouts.

post #8441 of 19490
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Originally Posted by zeppu08 View Post


Thanks for the feedback! I really got what you said. Hmm in terms of usage and battery life, which is the winner among the two?

And using the vorgz pure II with the dx90, does it changes the SQ and background of the dap? Soundstage and layering?


The x5 has def longer battery life, seems to last a lot, hardly moved to one bar down after a few hours, so that's great, dx90 is not great, but being replaceable i don't see it as a big drawback.

the screen on dx90 is better quality, x5's is ok tho and displays larger artwork, tho i like the ibasso LP wallpaper background.

using locked, again ibasso wins. x5 could be improved soon tho, but the 3 buttons on dx90 are great..and big..haha

The x5 sounds slightly harsher with the pure ii than it does with the dx90 tho i suspect it is the vorzuge's sound sig which at the mo its very clear, but hits a bit hard, bright and digital for my taste, i have just tried the sony pha-2 and i prefer that, sounds like a desktop amp,smooth, big and lush tho the bass is a little on the unbalanced side( too much)

Soundstage def improves in any of the cases, so does layering, but i wouldn't bother taking an amp when out, hpo's are very good on both players, especially with iem's, only in quiet home listening you'll get to hear the differences.

post #8442 of 19490
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Originally Posted by CH23 View Post

To edit the theme, or in my case, the home menu scrolling direction. As long as you know what you're editing, you'll be fine.



I remember someone else wanting it to scroll in the same direction as the scrollwheel.

Here's fw v2.0 with the scrolling changed to your liking:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q87ai34ai0de5vj/x5.fw

I also want the scroll wheel changed and thank you for the link to the file.

As I am on a mac and do not have a PC is there an unpacking tool so that I can carry this out myself when the FW is updated, and if so can you point me to it.
Edited by Flomet - 5/3/14 at 3:43am
post #8443 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Flomet View Post

I also want the scroll wheel changed and thank you for the link to the file.

As I am on a mac and do not have a PC is there an unpacking tool so that I can carry this out myself, and if so can you point me to it.

Not that i know of.
In fact, i don't even know the origin of the windows version(yes, it's from FiiO, but i don't know where they released it to)

I'm more than happy to give you an unpacked copy of the 2.0 firmware, and will pack it again too.

Here's the link to the unpacked firmware: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nrajfvg6gn9m5h5/x5.zip



The firmware i provided (unpacked) is the stock version, the scrollwheel direction can be "changed" by editing the /coordinate/launcher.ini file.

The numbers show the coordinates of the icons,

x = horizontal position

y = vertical position

= icon height

= icon width

"0" is the top icon
"1" is the 2nd
"2" is the middle icon
Etcetera

"5" is the scrollwheel you see on the left.

so for changing the direction you have to simply replace the position values for 0 with 4, 1 with 3. As the center icon stays centered, and the scrollwheel in the same place, you don't have to edit these.

Next you'll have to change the icons for the top and bottom positions. You can do that by renaming the icons :

you can find the icons in \litegui\theme1\launcher\

category_s_down_0.png
And
category_s_up_0.png

Need to be switched
Same for the others (Collect, EQ, Explorer, Play, Playing, Sys_set)
Edited by CH23 - 5/8/14 at 3:29pm
post #8444 of 19490

Soundblast...

 

You are either my hero or my enemy...

 

I was, for the longest time going to go with your ZX1 / PHA2 combo that you have, but got fed up with waiting for UK release (don't like to import high ticket grey box...), but went with X5 / E12 (had the amp for a while already)...  I would like to know from you if possible, both factoring in, and not - the cost difference, am I going to regret not waiting for the Sony for sound quality only (have enough Android devices for the UI etc not to be relevant to me!)? 

 

FWIW, I am preferring (just from casual listening, not volume matched) the FiiO combo to either my iPhone (or HTC One M8) / HiFi M8, and also Foobar / Micromega MyDac, - as, mentioned up above for £1k all in (with the IE800) offers amazing synergy / SQ, so I do not believe I'll be upset even if you tell me that the Sony stack is in a different league, afterall, value wise, FiiO have it licked.

 

Sorry if this post is gibberish, been up since 6am yesterday (so 30hrs) because of listening to this little box of tricks :)

post #8445 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Scorpion667 View Post

For $12+ shipping it's worth the gamble to try. It's extremely hard for me to get a 128GB MicroSD card shipped to Canada for a reasonable price (as opposed to US) so I won't be able to test it until that changes. HOWEVER from what I understand as long as a device supports SDXC and has firmware support for 128GB cards, it should work in theory. Don't quote me on that but for the low price of this adapter, we might find out soon if someone wants to try =)

[edit] posting the link again in case anyone missed it: http://www.meenova.com/st/p/m3r.html

@goldendarko
@Flomet

Already tested

http://www.head-fi.org/t/661411/fiio-x5-thread-info-updated-on-jan-17th-2014/7860#post_10497263

Tried with a 64gb card, worked flawless.
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