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post #8221 of 19490
I'm not personally saying it's a fact - just throwing the info into the mix - and find the 'burn-in' issue interesting. My own opinion swings wildly from the 'there's something in it' camp to the 'it's all psychoacoustic' with every new acquisition.

As it happens, where the X5 is concerned, I'm a firm believer... Well, fairly firm,... But maybe...
post #8222 of 19490

Only way I can see to test it would be to get two brand new units to someone like Tyll Hertsens.  Put both on the scopes (under load) to confirm similarity.

 

Burn one in for 300 hours.

 

Remeasure the frequency response.

 

Then you'd have your answer.

 

For an idea of how our brain perceives and adapts (even in short time periods) - try this http://www.head-fi.org/t/663773/is-burn-in-real-or-placebo#post_9435285 ;)

 

Admittedly, it's extreme and to do with headphones rather than SS components - but you get the picture about how adaptable our brains are.

 

As far as the X5 goes - if you want to believe in burn-in, go right ahead - especially if it makes you happy.  Personally I'll be a sceptic until I see hard evidence (and so far - despite a lot of debate - there doesn't seem to be anything definitive - what does that tell you).

 

Anyway - back to the X5.

post #8223 of 19490

I'll leave my question here since nobody answered :)

 

Hey guys, do I lose something activating gap less ?

I mean, by default gap less isn't activated, I'm not a user who will use a lot this function, will, for example, tracks load faster on shuffle mode if gap less isn't activated? Why do we have the choice? Thank you.

post #8224 of 19490
No. You don't lose any sound quality if that's what you mean. I think it may place more of a burden on the processor but otherwise it should just remove the gaps between songs.
post #8225 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Seskoi View Post
 

I'll leave my question here since nobody answered :)

 

Hey guys, do I lose something activating gap less ?

I mean, by default gap less isn't activated, I'm not a user who will use a lot this function, will, for example, tracks load faster on shuffle mode if gap less isn't activated? Why do we have the choice? Thank you.

 

'Gapless' is a data buffer that 'listens' for the silences between tracks and removes them. It, in effect, previews the music data before you hear it. It uses processor power (battery) and some say it degrades the sound but that's debatable, of course...:wink_face:

post #8226 of 19490

I had a chance last night to listen to 2 X5s side by side with same track and same volume. One was running FW1.20 and the other running FW2.0. If there is any audible difference it is slightly improved mid-range presence and clarity, possibly due to a slight treble reduction, but it's honestly so close that it could be pure expectation or placebo. In short, don't expect FW2.0 to transform the sound of your X5.


Unfortunately, both units had received significant use so I couldn't compare for burn-in. That said, capacitors definitely benefit from usage and the X5 must contain capacitors so there's no reason that it wouldn't benefit from some burn-in time.

post #8227 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post
 

I had a chance last night to listen to 2 X5s side by side with same track and same volume. One was running FW1.20 and the other running FW2.0. If there is any audible difference it is slightly improved mid-range presence and clarity, possibly due to a slight treble reduction, but it's honestly so close that it could be pure expectation or placebo. In short, don't expect FW2.0 to transform the sound of your X5.


Unfortunately, both units had received significant use so I couldn't compare for burn-in. That said, capacitors definitely benefit from usage and the X5 must contain capacitors so there's no reason that it wouldn't benefit from some burn-in time.

 

it depended on what kind of music format you are listening. the difference will be more noticeable if it is mp3, ogg and flac. 

post #8228 of 19490
From James at Fiio regarding the X3 on the X3 thread, post #5009, page 334.........
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post

yes, there are capacitor between the dac and amp section, also some in the power supply. as an 22 years old engineer, the burn in help to improve some spec of the capacitor , the question is whether you can hear the difference by your ears.

So yeah, maybe the same applies to the X5. Some may hear it and some may not.
post #8229 of 19490

Just tried to make an alternate colour theme and alter the top bar text colour. I thought I found the code in the "config.ini" file within the "theme1" folder:

 

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<list_item_color>0xB8B8B8 </list_item_color>  #列表每一项字体颜色  如R = 100(十六进制为 64) G = 255 (十六进制为 FF) B = 128 (十六进制为 80) 则 改制为0x64FF80 

 

This version has been altered in both hexidecimal and RGB codes to be green, but the result is no change... not sure what I'm missing as every other code in the config file is either grey or white!?

post #8230 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

Just tried to make an alternate colour theme and alter the top bar text colour. I thought I found the code in the "config.ini" file within the "theme1" folder:


This version has been altered in both hexidecimal and RGB codes to be green, but the result is no change... not sure what I'm missing as every other code in the config file is either grey or white!?

Do we need to change the Chinese characters, as well?
post #8231 of 19490
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Do we need to change the Chinese characters, as well?

 

According to Google Translate, the Chinese characters are just labels for the codes (i.e. the same as the English labels or extra detail for programmers), not colour information. The thing is, changing the codes (hex & RGB) does nothing to alter the font colour so I'm guessing that this info is actually stored elsewhere in the coding and may need a change in a different "ini" file to get the X5 to actually look at the code in the config.ini file. Does that make sense?

post #8232 of 19490
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I'm a bigger sucker mate!! Was waiting for the iBasso DX90 but after seeing all the accessories for the X5 available at Addicted to Audio AU I pulled the trigger on the X5, E12, HS6 and Case. All I need to do now is find a divorce lawyer and what class MicroSD card I should use.

 

I think the most important question here is what class of MicroSD card should I get!!

 

Man this had better sound better than my Rockboxed 5th gen iPod Classic and iBasso D6 otherwise the old saying a fool and his money are soon departed comes to mind.


Hmm...

 

Having seen the HS6, I had to order one too (insane, spending £17 on this, so hope at the very least the main part is metal else I'll feel robbed!) - I hold you fully responsible for this ;o)

 

Re Micro SD, read speed should be good enough however slow you go, I have 2 x 64gb cards, one original Sandisk, and one High Speed Samsung, I'm positive that there will be zero read speed differences as even with full 24/192 you're not pushing the read speed of the standard card (for use in this player - in other applications, the Samsung is the quicker), however - I will say if the cost isn't too different between the two (High Speed Samsung cards - at least on Amazon UK are only marginally more expensive than standard Sandisk) that if you like to swap your music collection in / out, that for time saving, the Samsung may be the better choice for the write speed increase...

 

The Samsung card I'm talking about is this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D1RD948/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 - What makes this all confusing is that BOTH are 'Class 10' - I think that the industry needs to re-write their own terminology to make it easier to understand...

post #8233 of 19490

I'm having lots of fun trying different colour variations. So far green and the stock red options are probably best, but purple and yellow sure are "interesting"!

 

 

post #8234 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

I'm having lots of fun trying different colour variations. So far green and the stock red options are probably best, but purple and yellow sure are "interesting"!


 

Are you changing the colors in a config file or altering the images?
post #8235 of 19490
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Hmm...

 

Having seen the HS6, I had to order one too (insane, spending £17 on this, so hope at the very least the main part is metal else I'll feel robbed!) - I hold you fully responsible for this ;o)

 

Re Micro SD, read speed should be good enough however slow you go, I have 2 x 64gb cards, one original Sandisk, and one High Speed Samsung, I'm positive that there will be zero read speed differences as even with full 24/192 you're not pushing the read speed of the standard card (for use in this player - in other applications, the Samsung is the quicker), however - I will say if the cost isn't too different between the two (High Speed Samsung cards - at least on Amazon UK are only marginally more expensive than standard Sandisk) that if you like to swap your music collection in / out, that for time saving, the Samsung may be the better choice for the write speed increase...

 

The Samsung card I'm talking about is this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D1RD948/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 - What makes this all confusing is that BOTH are 'Class 10' - I think that the industry needs to re-write their own terminology to make it easier to understand...

I ended up getting 2 x 16gb cards from here;

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/271190799885?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

 

Reasonably cheap for AU. Going to have my Jazz on one and Blues on the other. I see they also have Fiio X5 accessories on eBay from HK that are half the price I'm paying but at least I will get everything in the one delivery.

 

You can format the cards in the X5 correct??

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