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post #7501 of 19490

Hi all,

 

I just got my X5 from a local retail store (got lucky to get the last in stock unit). Sounds really really good.

 

However, I'm experiencing issues with the USB DAC function. The firmware is 1.2 right out from the box. I use windows 8.1 and had problem installing the driver. Googled a little bit and found fixes from fiio and now have successfully installed the driver.

 

My x5 shows the USB DAC screen when I plug it in the computer but it plays no sound. I have set the default playback device as the X5 but still no luck.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

post #7502 of 19490

Which part of "How can you do business with a supplier who is at best, is not straight ahead in dealing with customers orders".  Cancel and buy from a reputably straight ahead dealer.

post #7503 of 19490
We sorry that there may have been a mismatch between preorder quantity and unit supply with mp4nation in the last few weeks. We will be sending them more stock in the coming days so those of you waiting on them should get your order shipped then. redface.gif
post #7504 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

We sorry that there may have been a mismatch between preorder quantity and unit supply with mp4nation in the last few weeks. We will be sending them more stock in the coming days so those of you waiting on them should get your order shipped then. redface.gif

That's great news, thanks.
post #7505 of 19490

@Mahdi8 I think I've found the reason we like the X5 with a separate amp, but it depends - are you actually hearing hiss with IEMs and if so, which ones?

post #7506 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

@Mahdi8
 I think I've found the reason we like the X5 with a separate amp, but it depends - are you actually hearing hiss with IEMs and if so, which ones?

I wouldn't call it hiss though. It's more like really faint background noise when nothing is playing. I know I'm being pedantic smily_headphones1.gif but it's just in comparison the corda quickstep is really silent in a combo with x5 even when nothing is playing. Maybe my expectation is unreasonable considering corda quickstep actually cost more than x5.

The iem I used was a custom made by merging tpeos h200 and brainwavz b2. One interesting thing is I've been using x5 without silicon case and tonight I recon the noise is less when the silicon case is on. But maybe that's just my ear playing tricks smily_headphones1.gif
post #7507 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Mahdi8 View Post


I wouldn't call it hiss though. It's more like really faint background noise when nothing is playing. I know I'm being pedantic smily_headphones1.gif but it's just in comparison the corda quickstep is really silent in a combo with x5 even when nothing is playing. Maybe my expectation is unreasonable considering corda quickstep actually cost more than x5.

The iem I used was a custom made by merging tpeos h200 and brainwavz b2. One interesting thing is I've been using x5 without silicon case and tonight I recon the noise is less when the silicon case is on. But maybe that's just my ear playing tricks smily_headphones1.gif

 

OK. Perhaps we're talking about different things. I don't hear any hiss with my Miracles, but the crosstalk is the issue with the HPO I think. HPO has crosstalk of >75dB, but line out has crosstalk of  >100dB. It really makes difference. With the E12DIY + X5 my portable rig is on par with my desktop rig which means it's awesome!! :tongue_smile:

post #7508 of 19490

Hello.

 

Been lurking on this thread from around when it had reached page 100(!) and have finally got my Fiio X5 I thought I'd post a few observations since maybe the perspective I come from is not that of most of the commentators here. First a declaration - I'm kind of a lapsed audiophile - I have pretty serious kit in my lounge but definitely got to a point when I felt that enough was enough and I really could not tell the difference between, say, a decently made £30 cable and something costing £200 or more. It never occurred to me to take portable audio that seriously, ambient noise and tiny earphones seemed doomed to make it something to pass the time on trains and aeroplanes rather than something for seriously focussed listening.

 

To that end I've used most apple products and  a sanza clip+. The latter is an extraordinary bargain and seems to be to sound just as good as the former as well as giving you some storage upgrade potential. The fact that its an extraordinary bargain seems to me though to lead to a bit of hyperbole, its great but its not magic, it has a certain clarity and a crisp sort of treble but I was never surprised by the sound. It was fine.

 

Anyway I acquired some Sennheiser Momentums, which I grant you is a curve ball given the previous comments, basically I won an ebay bid a silly price unexpectedly when I was just looking for something that looked good, would not fall out of my ears and would not break in five minutes. Plugging the Momentums into the Clip+ gave me a sense of what might be possible, not an utter transformation but some shafts of detail and involvement that promised more and made me rethink what kind of impact I might reasonably expect from portable audio. Oddly I did not find the same sense of possibilities with my, then, current Apple product which was an ipod mini (this will probably surprise nobody)

 

So my conclusion was that the player did matter, real involvement might be achievable and went on the hunt. My budget and my sense of the conditions I would realistically be using my player in led to an absolute ceiling of £300 (do people take £2000+ players on the train? Do they put it in pockets? Bloody hell!) So I chose the Fiio X5 which arrived a week ago. So here are my observations:

 

a) I do not hear difference in sound quality that I can consistently associated with bit rate (but I have nothing below 320) I do hear differences that I think are to do with mastering.

 

b) A well mastered recording can sound utterly astonishing - amazing levels of detail, tonal accuracy and a lack of congestion even on the nosiest stuff. (WARNING PROG ROCK REFERENCE One particular favourite is Pawn Hearts - for the handful of people who might know what I talking about I can hear everything that's going on in even the most psychotic parts of "plague of lighthouse keepers" and for the first time ever I have heard Robert Fripp's guitar parts)

 

c) The UI still has me confused - I still can't find my way around as quick as I'd like. But I think some of the complaints about it are a little bit overdone. Maybe things are helped in that I have some very long pieces on my twin 64gb cards so I have not broken the track limit.

 

d) When plugged in I can only "see" the card in the first slot - I have found ways around this but I assume the computer should see both - but I had endless problems getting the 64gb formatted to fat32. Currently both cards can be read in the computer if they are in slot one and both cards work fine on the player.

 

e) The Fiio X5 is certainly the best player I have owned, yields a genuine musical involvement quite different from my previous experience with portable audio and the twin card slots and ability to read higher amount storage cards is likely to mean it will serve me well into the future.

 

f) I have no comparison to offer with other "audiophile" players - Ill leave that to others. For me though the feature set alone, even assuming sound were similar across the competitors would make the Fiio the winner. I think if you come straight from Apple with no particular computer skills you might be a bit shocked by the simplicity of the interface but I don't think I should be a deal breaker.

 

 

 

FWIW

 

 

Graham

post #7509 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

OK. Perhaps we're talking about different things. I don't hear any hiss with my Miracles, but the crosstalk is the issue with the HPO I think. HPO has crosstalk of >75dB, but line out has crosstalk of  >100dB. It really makes difference. With the E12DIY + X5 my portable rig is on par with my desktop rig which means it's awesome!! tongue_smile.gif

Paired with a good amp it is a quite amazing combo. Makes me rethink my current desktop setup smily_headphones1.gif
post #7510 of 19490
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Originally Posted by gandt10 View Post

Hello.

Been lurking on this thread from around when it had reached page 100(!) and have finally got my Fiio X5 I thought I'd post a few observations since maybe the perspective I come from is not that of most of the commentators here. First a declaration - I'm kind of a lapsed audiophile - I have pretty serious kit in my lounge but definitely got to a point when I felt that enough was enough and I really could not tell the difference between, say, a decently made £30 cable and something costing £200 or more. It never occurred to me to take portable audio that seriously, ambient noise and tiny earphones seemed doomed to make it something to pass the time on trains and aeroplanes rather than something for seriously focussed listening.

To that end I've used most apple products and  a sanza clip+. The latter is an extraordinary bargain and seems to be to sound just as good as the former as well as giving you some storage upgrade potential. The fact that its an extraordinary bargain seems to me though to lead to a bit of hyperbole, its great but its not magic, it has a certain clarity and a crisp sort of treble but I was never surprised by the sound. It was fine.

Anyway I acquired some Sennheiser Momentums, which I grant you is a curve ball given the previous comments, basically I won an ebay bid a silly price unexpectedly when I was just looking for something that looked good, would not fall out of my ears and would not break in five minutes. Plugging the Momentums into the Clip+ gave me a sense of what might be possible, not an utter transformation but some shafts of detail and involvement that promised more and made me rethink what kind of impact I might reasonably expect from portable audio. Oddly I did not find the same sense of possibilities with my, then, current Apple product which was an ipod mini (this will probably surprise nobody)

So my conclusion was that the player did matter, real involvement might be achievable and went on the hunt. My budget and my sense of the conditions I would realistically be using my player in led to an absolute ceiling of £300 (do people take £2000+ players on the train? Do they put it in pockets? Bloody hell!) So I chose the Fiio X5 which arrived a week ago. So here are my observations:

a) I do not hear difference in sound quality that I can consistently associated with bit rate (but I have nothing below 320) I do hear differences that I think are to do with mastering.

b) A well mastered recording can sound utterly astonishing - amazing levels of detail, tonal accuracy and a lack of congestion even on the nosiest stuff. (WARNING PROG ROCK REFERENCE One particular favourite is Pawn Hearts - for the handful of people who might know what I talking about I can hear everything that's going on in even the most psychotic parts of "plague of lighthouse keepers" and for the first time ever I have heard Robert Fripp's guitar parts)

c) The UI still has me confused - I still can't find my way around as quick as I'd like. But I think some of the complaints about it are a little bit overdone. Maybe things are helped in that I have some very long pieces on my twin 64gb cards so I have not broken the track limit.

d) When plugged in I can only "see" the card in the first slot - I have found ways around this but I assume the computer should see both - but I had endless problems getting the 64gb formatted to fat32. Currently both cards can be read in the computer if they are in slot one and both cards work fine on the player.

e) The Fiio X5 is certainly the best player I have owned, yields a genuine musical involvement quite different from my previous experience with portable audio and the twin card slots and ability to read higher amount storage cards is likely to mean it will serve me well into the future.

f) I have no comparison to offer with other "audiophile" players - Ill leave that to others. For me though the feature set alone, even assuming sound were similar across the competitors would make the Fiio the winner. I think if you come straight from Apple with no particular computer skills you might be a bit shocked by the simplicity of the interface but I don't think I should be a deal breaker.



FWIW


Graham

Hey Graham,
A nice review!
Good to hear some alternate viewpoints on the UI.
Interesting observations on the bitrates of the files, mate!
One little nitpick, I think you are referring to the whole recording/mixing/mastering process when you refer to the well mastered recordings.
post #7511 of 19490
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

We sorry that there may have been a mismatch between preorder quantity and unit supply with mp4nation in the last few weeks. We will be sending them more stock in the coming days so those of you waiting on them should get your order shipped then. redface.gif

Those are absolutely great news! :-D
post #7512 of 19490
Quote:
Originally Posted by LimeCoke View Post
 

Hi all,

 

I just got my X5 from a local retail store (got lucky to get the last in stock unit). Sounds really really good.

 

However, I'm experiencing issues with the USB DAC function. The firmware is 1.2 right out from the box. I use windows 8.1 and had problem installing the driver. Googled a little bit and found fixes from fiio and now have successfully installed the driver.

 

My x5 shows the USB DAC screen when I plug it in the computer but it plays no sound. I have set the default playback device as the X5 but still no luck.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Anyone?

post #7513 of 19490

Hi all,

 

I'm in France, i have the X5 and i'd like to know if you're experiencing the same behaviour than mine when lockscreen 1 is activated.

In fact, what is shown on the configuration image is that only the volume controls are activated, what isn't shown is that the central button also is activated but with a long press which activate the screen and all the buttons.

The result is when it's in my pocket  it activates randomly any button, put the song on pause or stop it and even changes the song sometimes...

(For information my jeans are straight or regular or not skinny or slim fit so i guess there is no unusual pressure on the player)

 

A bug about the lockscreen configuration is open here:

https://app.devzing.com/FiiO/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=41

 

 

I wrote to Fiio about that and that's what they replied :

 

According to your description, we think your X5 is normal. This problem is related to the use environment, it is caused by unnoticed pressure apply on the central botton. Sorry to inform you that, we have no plan to modify the X5's lockscreen function. We suggest you use a case for avoiding the screen be activated unwillingly and try to avoiding the pressure apply on your X5. 

Sincerely sorry for any inconvenience which the X5 has brought to you. Hope you can continue to support FiiO! Your support always been our biggest motivation and proud! 


If you have any other question, please feel free to contact us!
Have a nice day! ^_^
 
Best Regards,
FiiO Customer Service

 

Am i really to understand that my jeans' pockets are to blame ???


Other parts of their answers the rest is just irrelevant :

Kindly inform you that, we think the definition of "green" is the key will effective when you short press it, so we unmark the key as green if the key will effective when you must long press it.

If any inconvenience, pls understand!

Pls don't worry, we will try our best to help you slove problem. But we need to make sure whether your X5 is defective first, so we need you provide more detail to us. Thanks for your cooperation.

 

Kindly inform you that, if the X5's screen locked, not only the volume controls available, but also the central button still work. If you press the central botton long enough when your X5's screen locked, the screen will lights up and a few seconds after the image for volume control appears. It is our design, if any inconvenience, pls understand!

 

Is there someone here that has the same problem ?

post #7514 of 19490
Quote:
Originally Posted by LimeCoke View Post

Hi all,

I just got my X5 from a local retail store (got lucky to get the last in stock unit). Sounds really really good.

However, I'm experiencing issues with the USB DAC function. The firmware is 1.2 right out from the box. I use windows 8.1 and had problem installing the driver. Googled a little bit and found fixes from fiio and now have successfully installed the driver.

My x5 shows the USB DAC screen when I plug it in the computer but it plays no sound. I have set the default playback device as the X5 but still no luck.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

1: tried rebooting?

2: the "fix" was rebooting in "safe mode" in which you can install unsigned drivers, right?

3: is the volume turned up on the computer?

4: is the volume turned up on the X5

5: does line out on the player work?

6: does the normal oubdport on your computer work?

7: does the sound work in other programs/with other files?
post #7515 of 19490
Quote:
Originally Posted by anonim View Post

Hi all,

A bug about the lockscreen configuration is open here:
https://app.devzing.com/FiiO/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=41


I wrote to Fiio about that and that's what they replied :

According to your description, we think your X5 is normal. This problem is related to the use environment, it is caused by unnoticed pressure apply on the central botton. Sorry to inform you that, we have no plan to modify the X5's lockscreen function. We suggest you use a case for avoiding the screen be activated unwillingly and try to avoiding the pressure apply on your X5. 


Sincerely sorry for any inconvenience which the X5 has brought to you. Hope you can continue to support FiiO! Your support always been our biggest motivation and proud! 


If you have any other question, please feel free to contact us!

Have a nice day! ^_^

 

Best Regards,

FiiO Customer Service


Am i really to understand that my jeans' pockets are to blame ???

Other parts of their answers the rest is just irrelevant :
Kindly inform you that, we think the definition of "green" is the key will effective when you short press it, so we unmark the key as green if the key will effective when you must long press it.
If any inconvenience, pls understand!
Pls don't worry, we will try our best to help you slove problem. But we need to make sure whether your X5 is defective first, so we need you provide more detail to us. Thanks for your cooperation.

Kindly inform you that, if the X5's screen locked, not only the volume controls available, but also the central button still work. If you press the central botton long enough when your X5's screen locked, the screen will lights up and a few seconds after the image for volume control appears. It is our design, if any inconvenience, pls understand!

Is there someone here that has the same problem ?

Same problem here.

I believe another bug was opened towards keymapping. If it hasn't i'll open one.
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