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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

Okay, turning on the gapless seems to fix this issue. Cool beans. Easy fix

LoL Really ? i will try

post #7412 of 19490
Try force shutdown then turn off and then turn on gapless😊
post #7413 of 19490
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

Try force shutdown then turn off and then turn on gapless😊
While standing on one foot 😉
post #7414 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Bray90820 View Post

I don't know if this is a bug or something wrong with my device but when I tried to turn it off today the screen flickered on and off over and over again until I hit the power button again 

Screen flickering happens; apparently FiiO is aware (i saw James talking about this a few pages back)(found it!)
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post

it is because there are something wrong about the data stored in the  build in RAM of the IPS screen, so once you turn off the screen and them turn on again it back to normal. 

we will try to fix it in the future by firmware upgrading. 

Edited by CH23 - 4/21/14 at 9:39pm
post #7415 of 19490
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Originally Posted by theUKMrT View Post
 

I have a diyMod & asked the same question many pages back - got no answer so bought an X5 anyway… Probably shouldn't have bothered - the X5 digs out more detail yes, but it's much less 'musical' and has a very flat 2D soundstage in comparison to the full-bodied, multi-layered diyMod. Adding an amp (JDS Labs C5 in my case) helps a bit - but that sort of defeats the object of having the X5 (for me at least).

The X5 really shines on stripped back, airy productions, but feed it anything densely layered & things start to fall apart pretty quickly - the X5 has a very metallic treble (like early cd's) & this becomes a harsh, hashy mess on complex tracks. Bass is better controlled, but neither as deep nor rich as from the diyMod.

 

Basically, if you have an iMod, I wouldn't bother with the X5. Don't get me wrong, the X5 isn't bad, but it'll just feel more like a side-step than an upgrade - like moving from high quality analogue to digital for the first time - more detail, but at the expense of a less organic, less realistic experience.

How about an unmodded iPod?  I have a 5.5 Video and haven't bypassed the output caps, but it has a 128GB CF card in it now and I feed it's audio via LOD to a Fiio E12.  I'm not sure if I would benefit much from the X5 except for the removable storage.  

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Originally Posted by jazzman7 View Post
 

How about an unmodded iPod?  I have a 5.5 Video and haven't bypassed the output caps, but it has a 128GB CF card in it now and I feed it's audio via LOD to a Fiio E12.  I'm not sure if I would benefit much from the X5 except for the removable storage.  

A lot of us have written about this.  I have an iPod Classic.  With the E12 sounds better than without.  However, the X5 with the E12 sounds better than the iPod with the E12.  I'm not going to reignite the lossless vs. compressed, 24-bit vs. 16 bit, 44.1 Khz vs. 192 Khz debate again.  I'll just say that I am not a professional recording engineer.  However, I have been doing home recording since the early 80s, starting with analog multitrack and eventually moving to completely digital for the past 10 years or so.  I routinely listen to music I have tracked, mixed and mastered at different bit depths and sample rates.  I mix and master with near-field monitors and cans and use DACs intended for semi-pro studio recording.  I know what I can hear and I'm very comfortable saying that the difference between an iPod Classic + E12, while pretty good, does not sound as good as an X5 + E12.  Then again, I'm not certified by anyone to install a firewall on an office network, I've never worked for the phone company, and never dated anyone who sold hearing aids, so what do I know?

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Is there a tentative date for the 2.0 firmware? :)

post #7418 of 19490
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Originally Posted by autoexec View Post

Is there a tentative date for the 2.0 firmware? smily_headphones1.gif


 



Yes.

Soon.

Tentatively though....
post #7419 of 19490
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Originally Posted by goldendarko View Post
 
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Originally Posted by autoexec View Post
 

Is there a tentative date for the 2.0 firmware? smily_headphones1.gif

 



Yes.

Soon.

Tentatively though....

post #7420 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

The real secret to music quality is in the mastering of the original - not the container (in my experience)

 

True but at the same time depending on how it is contained, taints that very original file making it no longer "original".

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I find the display of the album art to be kind of wasted due to the large black semi-transparent background of the song info at the bottom. Is there a plan on future firmware to have an option to hide it after like 3 seconds of inactivity? Or maybe make the black background be more transparent? The screen is beautiful and it is wise maximize its potential by displaying the album arts fully. Anyone with me?

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Originally Posted by autoexec View Post
 

I find the display of the album art to be kind of wasted due to the large black semi-transparent background of the song info at the bottom. Is there a plan on future firmware to have an option to hide it after like 3 seconds of inactivity? Or maybe make the black background be more transparent? The screen is beautiful and it is wise maximize its potential by displaying the album arts fully. Anyone with me?

 

Alternate POV.  Why would anyone want to have the screen going all the time to admire the album art?  All it does is chew through the battery.  On my iDevices, it's nice to see the album art when I'm scrolling through album choices, or when I quickly see the track list - but after that I turn the screen off.

 

I just think asking for the album art in all its glory (when realistically you're only going to see it for a few seconds) is pretty much OCD.

 

Like I said - an alternate POV.

post #7423 of 19490
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Originally Posted by ptravel View Post
 

… I have an iPod Classic.  With the E12 sounds better than without.  However, the X5 with the E12 sounds better than the iPod with the E12.  …  I know what I can hear and I'm very comfortable saying that the difference between an iPod Classic + E12, while pretty good, does not sound as good as an X5 + E12.  ...

Thanks for the reply -- I did see your review a couple of weeks ago and enjoyed it (very detailed).  Another head-fief (magicalmouse) prefers the X5 over his iPod/E12 combo.  Another user in the thread is debating the same thing I am -- wasn't sure if he got one yet to test.  

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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

 

Alternate POV.  Why would anyone want to have the screen going all the time to admire the album art?  All it does is chew through the battery.  On my iDevices, it's nice to see the album art when I'm scrolling through album choices, or when I quickly see the track list - but after that I turn the screen off.

 

I just think asking for the album art in all its glory (when realistically you're only going to see it for a few seconds) is pretty much OCD.

 

Like I said - an alternate POV.

Haha well I have to admit that I have a bit of OCD. It's just nice to see the album art completely (you've been able to display it anyway why not show it in all its glory) even I won't stare at it for long. An additional setting to the settings menu to have an option to hide the song info after 2-3 seconds of inactivity would be nice.

post #7425 of 19490
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Originally Posted by issachar1943 View Post


ClieOS, you are right, it's EVIL.

I just figured the answer myself and I was hoping I was wrong before I tested it. 

As the available adjustment for Custom EQ is 6db, it looks like a very reasonable answer to my question. So I simply turn the all bands up to +6db. BANG, it now sounds just like Normal.

Which means, there's no EQ on X5 at all. This is a HUGE disappointment. mad.gif

No, it just means that no EQ setting on the X5 can go louder than the unEQed Normal setting.

Given that the X5 has over 115dB of dynamic range, losing 6dB will not be audible in any realistic condition. It could be audible in terms of increased background noise playing a silent track (and only a silent track) if you have to turn up the volume 6dB to compensate for the 6dB attenuation, which could only be the case if there were any audible noise to begin with wink.gif

As you discovered, you could max all the sliders on the Custom EQ to match the Normal setting in both loudness and (unaltered) tonality. You can still EQ however you like after this; if you want a bass boost you bring down all the sliders to the right, for example. Then you turn up the volume.

Perhaps a better option in the future is to have the X5 automatically adjust the digital level to the highest possible level dictated by the highest-set EQ band.
Edited by Joe Bloggs - 4/22/14 at 12:38am
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