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Originally Posted by angeche View Post

My friend is a telecom engineer but yes, he is wrong.....

I wouldn't mind reading your explanation as to why you think you know more about audio signal processing than a telecom engineer.

I'm a power engineer, a lot of this is out of my field of expertise.
But then, most of this is far outside anyone else here's field of expertise.

Somewhere along the line, everyone started to think they were experts.
What the hell happened to civilization?
Respect for the skill of specialized trades?
Respect for craftsmen?
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

And there is the problem with the current paradigm. There is no sound information lost at all..in a 320kbps file.

Have a look: http://www.head-fi.org/t/415361/24bit-vs-16bit-the-myth-exploded

I'm a photographer myself. In some sense, the only difference between a JPEG and RAW file is editing headroom. 

You're right. This is getting OT.

The thread you are referencing was started by someone who is not who he claims to be.
Read the thread.
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To avoid another train wreck, let's get back on topic...

 

Received the HS6 stacking kit yesterday...don't have the E12 but it's working nicely with my Pico Power

 

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Originally Posted by pekingduck View Post

To avoid another train wreck, let's get back on topic...

Received the HS6 stacking kit yesterday...don't have the E12 but it's working nicely with my Pico Power



Yep, let's talk about the HS6.
Thoughts on the supplied cable?
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Originally Posted by pekingduck View Post
 

To avoid another train wreck, let's get back on topic...

 

Received the HS6 stacking kit yesterday...don't have the E12 but it's working nicely with my Pico Power

 

Where did you purchase it from, I've been trying to find one but can't find it anywhere.

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Originally Posted by ptravel View Post
 

 

 

Your technical computer experience demonstrates how specialization in a related area doesn't imply knowledge of a specific field.  The difference between 16-bit and 24-bit audio is in the noise floor and dynamic range.

 

Exaactllyyyy!

 

And what is the dynamic range of a 24-bit file? Enough to instantly cause hearing loss and, in some cases, kill you.

 

I am a cisco certified network engineer (though I'm not currently working in the telecoms field), trained in analyzing data, and my girlfriend of 4 years is an audiologist and speech language pathologist. I guarantee you I'm not speaking out of my arse.

 

 

Back to the X5...

 

My original point was that you should let features and UI decide what DAP you buy. When it comes to SQ, it's all in the recording and your headphones. That's why I like to bring my own music when I go to head-fi meets and other audio shows. There have been so many here who have bought gear based on demos they had no control over. If you listen to a binaural track on the Clip+, and a normal track on the X5, which will you think is better?

 

The X5, in my experience is the ultimate so far when it comes to balancing raw hardware features. I've used it side by side with almost every TOTL DAP there is, and its only better is the ZX1, and maybe the AK240. If you need a DAP, DAC, huge storage, good UI, rugged build, all at an awesome price, get the X5. The others offer only better UI, and the benefits of a full Android system. And the ZX1 has a wonderful screen.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/709479/multi-review-hifiman-hm901-fiio-x5-sony-zx1-hisound-studio-3rd-anv-iphone-4

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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post



Yep, let's talk about the HS6.

Thoughts on the supplied cable?

 



And more importantly where did you buy it from, I've been looking for this thing for weeks!!! Thanks
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I bought it here in China (FIIO only started shipping to local dealers last Friday). You guys should be able to order it VERY SOON (in days, I believe)

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post
 

 

Exaactllyyyy!

 

And what is the dynamic range of a 24-bit file? Enough to instantly cause hearing loss and, in some cases, kill you.

 

I am a cisco certified network engineer (though I'm not currently working in the telecoms field), trained in analyzing data, and my girlfriend of 4 years is an audiologist and speech language pathologist. I guarantee you I'm not speaking out of my arse.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/709479/multi-review-hifiman-hm901-fiio-x5-sony-zx1-hisound-studio-3rd-anv-iphone-4

Dynamic range has to do with volume resolution, not maximum volume.  The point isn't what is the maximum volume it can drive -- you can instantly deafen yourself with 8-bit audio file if you run the amp up high enough.

 

As a Cisco-certified network engineer, you have no professional credentials that have any relevance to recording music.  As an audiologist, neither does your girlfriend, though she knows a lot more about how human beings perceive sound than you do.

 

I guarantee you, neither of you know what you're talking about when it comes to music recording and reproduction.  

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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post


Yep, let's talk about the HS6.
Thoughts on the supplied cable?

Sonically I have no idea cos I have no other cables to compare it to.

But it is very well built and worth the price alone (the HS6 costs RMB 78 or USD 12.5 here)

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Originally Posted by pekingduck View Post

Sonically I have no idea cos I have no other cables to compare it to.
But it is very well built and worth the price alone (the HS6 costs RMB 78 or USD 12.5 here)

Thanks.
I wasn't trying to turn this into a cable discussion.
Just wondering if the HS6 was a worthwhile kit.
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Originally Posted by ptravel View Post

Dynamic range has to do with volume resolution, not maximum volume.  The point isn't what is the maximum volume it can drive -- you can instantly deafen yourself with 8-bit audio file if you run the amp up high enough.

As a Cisco-certified network engineer, you have no professional credentials that have any relevance to recording music.  As an audiologist, neither does your girlfriend, though she knows a lot more about how human beings perceive sound than you do.

I guarantee you, neither of you know what you're talking about when it comes to music recording and reproduction.  

Why does everyone like to take the dynamic range argument out of context.
Very true, an 8 bit or 10 bit file can also deafen you.

But you can also argue that a 24 bit file is not very useful if the ambient level of your home is 30-40 dB above 0 dB, if 0 dB is the very lowest limits of the ear's sensitivity.
And neither is a true 16 bit recording.
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Originally Posted by ptravel View Post
 

Dynamic range has to do with volume resolution, not maximum volume.  The point isn't what is the maximum volume it can drive -- you can instantly deafen yourself with 8-bit audio file if you run the amp up high enough.

 

As a Cisco-certified network engineer, you have no professional credentials that have any relevance to recording music.  As an audiologist, neither does your girlfriend, though she knows a lot more about how human beings perceive sound than you do.

 

I guarantee you, neither of you know what you're talking about when it comes to music recording and reproduction.  

 

Oh, did I also mention my Biology degree that specialize in human physiology. Or my Pharm.D?

 

No? Ok.

 

We're really OT now, so this is my last post.

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Can those of you with multiple headphones please report which headphones you feel have the best synergy with the X5.

Please list all headphones you have tried with the X5 and which one is all-around best.
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Originally Posted by ptravel View Post
 

Dynamic range has to do with volume resolution, not maximum volume.  The point isn't what is the maximum volume it can drive -- you can instantly deafen yourself with 8-bit audio file if you run the amp up high enough.

 

As a Cisco-certified network engineer, you have no professional credentials that have any relevance to recording music.  As an audiologist, neither does your girlfriend, though she knows a lot more about how human beings perceive sound than you do.

 

I guarantee you, neither of you know what you're talking about when it comes to music recording and reproduction.  


Let me chime in here.  I've been doing telecommunications for 30+ years and nothing today in the digital age can compare to the quality of transmission back in the analog days.  Every circuit had three-tone-slope, Sig/Noise and c-notch noise run on a monthly monthly basis, with very tight standards, and the voice quality was very good.  Digital makes life much easier but does nothing good to transmission quality. The only thing worse than point-to-point digital voice transmission is VoIP.  Don't get me started on mobile quality but in reality, telecommunications has nothing to do with quality audio.

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