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Just got the X5, looks and feels amazing!!! Wil post my impressions soon.
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Hey i have a friend visiting Shanghai. Does anyone know where they sell the x5 in Shanghai ??? Would it be in english ?

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Still waiting for my X5 to arrive.

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There is no such thing as a perfect electronic. Doesn't exist.

 

People like myself who are disappointed with the functionality knew exactly what we were getting. None of us expected an iPod UI or the smoothness of smartphones or anything like that. Heck as clunky as the UI is it is not a deal breaker.

 

However there are certain things that don't qualify as bugs that are present that are just mind boggling. If an mp3 player from 5-7 years ago can index more than 5800 songs, then why can't this one? And because the Chinese steal songs and don't use tags is not an adequate response either.

 

My very first iRiver categorized songs in the Genre-Artist-Album-Tracks but why not the X5? I thought this was a standard.

 

If I am in Folder view in one folder, after listening to the last song in the folder, why does the player not go on to the next folder instead of returning to the 1st song in the folder? Again I thought this was standard too. These are not bugs but just questionable choices.


Edited by krayziehustler - 4/9/14 at 4:58am
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If I was playing an album that lives in a folder, I'd be pretty annoyed if it went to some other folder!
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Originally Posted by AndrewH13 View Post

If I was playing an album that lives in a folder, I'd be pretty annoyed if it went to some other folder!

+1

 

I agree.

 

Just baffles the mind... folder browse mode works exactly like it does on your PC which is the standard way people think about folders and organization of digital music since the 90s when people started using computers and Windows.

 

Honestly, I think a good solution for people would be to go Ipod Classic => CLAS => Amp of choice. And just go back to the stack like people were carrying 1 year ago. You get the UI made by Apple and can have quality music. There are also similar solutions from Sony, V-Moda, and Fostex and probably others I'm unaware of.


Edited by M-13 - 4/9/14 at 5:08am
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Originally Posted by krayziehustler View Post
 

There is no such thing as a perfect electronic. Doesn't exist.

 

People like myself who are disappointed with the functionality knew exactly what we were getting. None of us expected an iPod UI or the smoothness of smartphones or anything like that. Heck as clunky as the UI is it is not a deal breaker.

 

However there are certain things that don't qualify as bugs that are present that are just mind boggling. If an mp3 player from 5-7 years ago can index more than 5800 songs, then why can't this one? And because the Chinese steal songs and don't use tags is not an adequate response either.

 

My very first iRiver categorized songs in the Genre-Artist-Album-Tracks but why not the X5? I thought this was a standard.

 

If I am in Folder view in one folder, after listening to the last song in the folder, why does the player not go on to the next folder instead of returning to the 1st song in the folder? Again I thought this was standard too. These are not bugs but just questionable choices.

I can't imagine u guy need shuffle more than 5800 songs in 1 time. i hear many genre base on my mood so everytime i play shuffle i play only 1 genre . i think 5800 songs is enough for one genre ....

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I had four times that much on my classic and it still wasn't enough. My music collection runs to 1.5tb, all lossless. I don't pretend to be able to carry it all but i'd sure as well would want to fill up as much of it as i can. Is the limitation only for those who use tags? I have all my music organized in folders already and i'd just like to copy it as is. No tags, no playlists, nothing. 

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For those of you experiencing the problem with Fiio X5 USB connection not detecting the X5 as a storage unit or as a DAC, here is where we stand with Fiio technical support - not resolved yet.  I will advise when a satisfactory solution has been proposed.


Thank you for your reply, Fiio technical support.

Working on this with my store sales professional at Headfoneshop in Toronto Canada here is what we discovered: Fiio X5 does not work properly with firmware 1.2. Must use firmware 1.1 to achieve USB storage functionality and DAC functionality.

If using 1.2 firmware as was factory installed on my unit and with 1.22 beta - the USB connection to a PC or Mac (we tried both) functions as a charger only, not as a data connection (storage and DAC).  Downgrading  the firmware back to 1.1 gives it the functionality of USB storage and stand alone DAC.  Upgrading back to 1.2 firmware or 1.22 beta firmware causes the USB connection to be only a charging connection with no data storage or DAC functionality.  This is on both PC and on a Mac.

 
Upgraded the X5 to version 1.22 beta firmware. Same result. 
-Device is recognized for USB charging only. 
-With 1.22 beta and 1.2 software on a Windows 7 and on a Apple Mac computer the X5 is not detected as a data storage device or as any device at all. Charging only. 
-With 1.1 software the X5 is instantly recognized as a USB data storage device and works as a DAC on PC and Mac computer. 
 
Please assist with a solution that would enable use of my Fiio X5 with current firmware. 

 

 

Dear Dimitri ,


Thanks for your buying of our new product X5 and support to FiiO!

Firstly please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience which the X5 has brought to you!

Regarding to your problem, we suggest you use a tool to press your X5's reset hole and change another usb cable which have data transmission function to have a try. It is suggested to use the supplied usb cable. If possible, we suggest you change another computer to have a try. 

Pls click the link below then download FW1.22beta firmware, and then use it to upgrade your X5.the problem still not be sloved after doing the methods above, pls contact us again. 

 
If you have any other question, please feel free to contact us!
Have a nice day! ^_^

Best Regards,
FiiO Customer Service




 Note: To help track your query, we have generated a Ticket Id. Your ticket Id is S93531-T12260. Please include this ticket number in all your communicationswith us.

 

 
From:"Dimitri Paulyn" <dpaulyn1@gmail.com>
Time:04/07/2014 16:21:40
To:support@fiio.net
Cc:
Subject:Please assist - FiiO X5 no Windows 7 USB connectivity
Hello, could you please assist?
I am very impressed with my X5 - excellent product; the best player I have ever experienced.
 
But unless we can resolve this problem I would like instructions on how to return the device for refund.
 
USB data connectivity with Windows 7 fails to function.
 
Very disappointed that I had to go through four days of frustration trying to get my Windows 7 64bit PC to recognize that the X5 has been connected via the micro USB cable.

 

X5 is showing that it is charging from the USB connection to the PC.

X5 is set to 'storage' mode.

 

Tried another mini USB cable with same result: charging, but no Upnp USB connectivity - no 'hello, I see you have a new device connected' dialog that I get from all other USB connections (WD drives, iPod, iPhone, DVD recorders, keyboard, mouse, headset etc.) not recognized as a storage device by Windows 7.  Other USB storage devices are being recognized instantly.

I never get the message - per Quick Start Guide - "USB connected. Please eject drives before disconnecting". 

Tried all six USB 2.0 connections on the PC (not using USB hubs)

 

Re-installed version 1.20 firmware without result.

The only way I can manage the music library is by pulling out the memory card and inserting it into the PC USB slot - this is not an acceptable work around.

Please let me know what I would need to do to have the PC recognize that a new storage device (X5) has been connected? 

Alternately I would like a refund on the product which appears to be defective, and is not working properly.


Edited by dpaulyn - 4/9/14 at 1:50pm
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First impression, awesome sound, no troubles loading up all my songs, stunning build quality.

I am very very happy with the X5 so far:)

Edit: used my Shure SE425 and Audio Technica ATH-M50s
Edited by JonathanCandel - 4/9/14 at 5:21am
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I think you've both misunderstood what krayziehustler meant...

How I read that comment (krayziehustler - please correct me if I am wrong) is as follows:

If we use Led Zeppelin as an example, and one decided that one wanted to listen to the complete works of Led Zepp in order, and that order as shown in the folder structure is 1>2>3>4 (let's just stick with the numbers, as it easily illustrates the point), then after the last track of Led Zepp 1, the assumption is that the player would then move on to the first track of Led Zepp 2. Logical, and what every player I've ever owned since the early 00s has done.

If I understand krayziehustler's comment correctly, the suggestion is that the X5, rather than moving on to the first track of Led Zepp 2, just goes back and starts with the first track of Led Zepp 1 again.

Have I understood all that correctly and got it right?


Just to reiterate what I've already said several times - I hate, HATE, iPods. I don't like the company, I don't like the products, I don't like their business practices. Also, I do not want to carry multiple source units around with me. The key word in Portable Source Gear is PORTABLE. I just want one box with 'phones, not two boxes taped together and with extra wires thanks.
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Originally Posted by andrewjamesdean View Post
 

what about a Fender Les Paul? lol

Oooops.  What was I thinking? :)

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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

 

 

Just baffles the mind... folder browse mode works exactly like it does on your PC which is the standard way people think about folders and organization of digital music since the 90s when people started using computers and Windows.

 

 

On all browser based DAPs(all that I've used/played with) when playing the last song in a folder the next song would be the 1st one in the next folder. Think about the last track in a compilation of 2 discs. The last track on Disc 1 should be followed by the first track on Disc 2. (Disc 1 and Disc 2 each having its own folder)

 

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Originally Posted by viet1357911 View Post
 

I can't imagine u guy need shuffle more than 5800 songs in 1 time. i hear many genre base on my mood so everytime i play shuffle i play only 1 genre . i think 5800 songs is enough for one genre ....

Good for you. And even if you wanted to do that, does Genre - Artist- Songs work for you? You can't see albums in Genre view.

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Originally Posted by sandalaudio View Post

 

People are shouting threats about refusing to buy X5, cancelling order, return to get money back.. etc, because they want to get noticed.

 

I am personally having excellent enjoyment listening to music on my X5, albeit some minor GUI shortcomings.

 

One thing that surprises me is, has anyone actually tried the new DSD support on the 1.21? Personally this is a huge exciting news for me.

Fiio engineers must have spent some effort to get DSF/DFF support on the X5, but nobody seems to care and instead talks about how many MP3's they can fit in cards.

 

I'm really happy that I can take my collection of 192kHz and DSD music and listen on the go. I know X5 transcodes DSD to PCM before D/A (not native DSD), but a good PCM conversion sounds just as excellent, especially with the excellent analogue amp section on the X5.

 

I want Fiio to keep on pushing forward and become the leading DAP for high res, high quality audio playback, and I want the users to support them, rather than being bogged down with other non-Hi-Fi matters.

 

+1 totally agree

I can't wait to try out high res and DSF/DFF files without the need to convert them to PCM myself. I'm no interested un unlimited low-quality MP3 files. I prefer quality over quantity. Have currently 96GB (> 3300) FLAC filkes, mainly 16b/44 Kh and some 24/88, 24/96 files. With the X5 I can add larger SDXC memory and add more high-res files to my collection.

Don’t care about shuffle play, playlists etc. Probably will be using the fodler browsing option, although I have al my music TAG-ed correctty long time ago. MP3 tag is great for that, also has the possibility to simply rename the file to the song title+track nr (Menu -> Action -> Tag to filename).

I hope that Grapples will be fixed soon, for my 1/10 of a second is already too much of a gap and that spoils the fun when listening to live recording or many of the Pink Floyd albums.

Anyone tried the X5 with Yamaha EPH-100 IEM's ?
Edited by emklap - 4/9/14 at 5:28am
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Originally Posted by krayziehustler View Post
 

 

On all browser based DAPs(all that I've used/played with) when playing the last song in a folder the next song would be the 1st one in the next folder. Think about the last track in a compilation of 2 discs. The last track on Disc 1 should be followed by the first track on Disc 2. (Disc 1 and Disc 2 each having its own folder)

 

I'm naming the files of my multi-disc-albums 101 Track Name, 102 Track Name... 201 Track Name, 202 Track Name to be able to listen to them in the correct order in one folder.

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