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post #6406 of 19481
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post
 

 

1, There are limited for the sum of files in the database, it can't be unlimited. and as we know, X5 already do better than some expensive DAP.

 

2, It is a bug of the beta version, don't forge me closed the beta version to you guys cause it may let other people misunderstand the situation.. btw, we are testing 1.22beta and this problem is fixed.

 

3, Will not support mp3gain.

 

4, Need time to improve cause the gapless playback need more resource .

 

I have 20k something tracks in my database, and it's not even 100 megs. X5 has 128GB with current reasonably priced cards, and much more if needed. 5800 tracks is a very low number for such capacity.

 

I received confirmation from your UK reseller that I'd need to send the unit back to you for battery replacement, which is not really an attractive option for those of us living in the EU due to customs.

 

I'm afraid the above, lack of mp3gain and shuffle support and proper playlist support really means I'll have to keep looking for a more mature product.


Edited by Metalomaniac - 4/8/14 at 11:21am
post #6407 of 19481
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Originally Posted by ptravel View Post
 

Okay, I've hit a little snag.

 

In Folder mode, how do you play the entire contents of a single folder?   If I select a folder, it shows me the files in the folder.  If I select the first file, it plays it, but then stops, i.e. it doesn't go on automatically to the next file in the folder.  What am I doing wrong?

 

Use the shortcut key (top left) to change the play mode. It should be the symbol that has 3 lines sideways

post #6408 of 19481

If you are using 1.2 firmware - as was factory installed on my unit - the USB connection to a PC or Mac (we tried both) functions as a charger only, not as a data connection (storage and DAC).  Downgrading  the firmware back to 1.1 gives it the functionality of USB storage and stand alone DAC.  Upgrading back to 1.2 firmware causes the USB connection to be only a charging connection.  This is on both PC and on a Mac.

post #6409 of 19481
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Originally Posted by dpaulyn View Post
 

If you are using 1.2 firmware - as was factory installed on my unit - the USB connection to a PC or Mac (we tried both) functions as a charger only, not as a data connection (storage and DAC).  Downgrading  the firmware back to 1.1 gives it the functionality of USB storage and stand alone DAC.  Upgrading back to 1.2 firmware causes the USB connection to be only a charging connection.  This is on both PC and on a Mac.

Can someone else confirm this?

post #6410 of 19481

A few thoughts for anyone worried about the 5800 song cap:

  1. Cost: If the cost to implement an internal 4/8/16GB chip added $10 to $20 to re-engineer and for parts, this would likely double in manufacturing pricing and again in retail pricing adding anywhere from $40 to $80 to the retail price. I am very happy personally to be able to buy the X5 at $350 accepting the 5800 song cap. Would those concerned be willing to pay $430 for the X5 as an X5 Plus Edition to eliminate the cap? If so, maybe James can consider a plus edition depending on ease of implementation.
  2. Cap: Having a 316.89GB library of 18887 songs, I still wouldn't be able to fit the entire library onto two 128GB MicroSD cards so I would still have to sort and prioritize.
  3. Prioritizing: Most of my 18887 songs are low quality crap or bad music that I wouldn't want to listen to anyways. I took the time to go through each song and provide a 5 star rating for those I liked. What I found is that the 5 star library was only 119.93GB which may fit on a single 128GB card if I am lucky and it is only 3538 songs as it is mostly redbook AIFF 16/48. I am no way effected by the cap if I wanted to bring every song that I liked in full AIFF quality.
  4. Playlists: Personally, I like to create playlists of my favorites from the 5 star collection for my various moods. To do this I create folders named for the playlists and drag and drop directly from my iTunes interface for easy management. With the extra space, I even duplicate the songs sometimes between the various playlists. Therefore I typically only use the folder view anyways for ease of use. However, I do enjoy selecting all songs and random sometimes from the X5 library.
post #6411 of 19481

I have 3 Windows 8.1 pc's and it worked as it should each time. Plug and Play. As a storage device it shows up without any trouble.


Edited by krayziehustler - 4/8/14 at 11:57am
post #6412 of 19481

Maybe my X5 is an older version that does not support 1.2 firmware for USB connectivity - I don't know - my very patient sales person 'fixed' it for my by downgrading to 1.1 as the only way to make it work over USB.  Surely I am not the only one experiencing this problem.

post #6413 of 19481
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Originally Posted by krayziehustler View Post
 

 

Use the shortcut key (top left) to change the play mode. It should be the symbol that has 3 lines sideways

The only option I get from the shortcut key in folder mode is choosing which of the two SD cards to use.  Do you get something else?

post #6414 of 19481
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Originally Posted by ptravel View Post
 

The only option I get from the shortcut key in folder mode is choosing which of the two SD cards to use.  Do you get something else?

Okay, I see that it has to be accessed while the first song is playing.  However, that's what I have -- the three horizontal bars.

post #6415 of 19481
How is the sound (expected) to compare to the new DX 90?
post #6416 of 19481
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Originally Posted by Rob49 View Post


James, has posted earlier...."expensive DAPS" - relating to other DAPS costing more....if I spend £289 ( WHICH IS NOT A SMALL EXPENSE !!! ) I expect there to be NO ISSUE'S !!!
I purchased a Sony Hi Res Walkman, F886, this does not have "bug", gapless, or storage issues, that need to be sorted AFTER PURCHASE. I'm not anti Fiio. ( I own a E12, which I'm happy with. ) but they shouldn't release a product to market until any problems are ironed out !
just to be clear where do you see no storage issue, as far as i can see there is no exspandable sd cards or am i not see the spec liste correctly ??
post #6417 of 19481
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Originally Posted by ptravel View Post
 

Okay, I see that it has to be accessed while the first song is playing.  However, that's what I have -- the three horizontal bars.

It's working now (don't know what happened before).  The gap issue is much more pronounced in folder mode than in playing by album tag.

 

And something else: I have more than 5800 tracks on my two 64 Gb cards (ALL are ALAC-encoded).  Gapless must be fixed for folder view, as well as playing by album tag.  As much as I love the sound of this player, this could be a serious make-or-break for me.

post #6418 of 19481

So I just received my X5 today and i noticed that when I use custom EQ the volume is is very quiet. I was just wondering if that was normal or not 

post #6419 of 19481
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Originally Posted by Jobbing View Post

For several months now almost everyone on this thread was very pleased with the process and future product. Now that the product itself is presented and distributed it seems to me that just a few members are bashing FiiO/X5 at one 'missing feature'. FiiO has proven to listen to us in the past months and still does so I think it isn't fair at all and doesn't do justice to this thread.



What should be the limit anyway? I have a very large collection of High-Res/Flac albums but I wouldn't dare to ask Fiio to facilitate approximately 3TB on memory. 2 memory slots should be sufficient to store a lot of albums and it is very easy to copy/paste files. There maybe some other players that can store thousands of files, so if you are looking for that feature pleasse go elsewhere but I'm sure those players will not offer what you really need: Sound Quality!

 



Your points are entirely reasonable.

BUT

Why big up ever expandable memory as a major feature when there's such a small file restriction in place???

Why is a decent sounding player WITH the ability to store more than 5800 files such an unreasonable ask?

As I keep saying, in the 21st century 5800 files is nothing.

 

Agree!

 

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Originally Posted by krayziehustler View Post
 

 

You cannot shuffle while in folder view, at least not shuffle all, only shuffle the current folder.

 

The only way to do a device shuffle of all your songs is to go to the "Play By Category" and select "All Songs" and you guessed it. X5 only picks 5800 of your songs at random so you will be missing allot of songs.

 

That is correct.

 

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Originally Posted by krayziehustler View Post
 

 

You CANNOT shuffle while in folder view, at least not shuffle all, only shuffle the current folder.

 

The only way to do a device shuffle of all your songs is to go to the "Play By Category" and select "All Songs" and you guessed it. X5 only picks 5800 of your songs at random so you will be missing allot of songs.

 




X5 back out of play.

 

You could look into the AK100 MK2... it's the player I'm using at the moment. It reads all my 6000+ files but the shuffle feature is not the best (and this is a recognized "bug") as it sometimes repeats songs and/or artists and you have to like "clear" it out by selecting manually another song and mp3s for some reason cuts out the last few seconds on some of them. Sound quality is excellent as well (a bit softer/less energetic than the X5 I tried on tour). It's a bit more expensive but I don't really have too many bad things to say. It consistently gives up to 16 hours of play time with my mix of MP3s and FLACs (including cdRips and Hi-Res files from HDTracks.com)

 

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Originally Posted by the Red Eft View Post
 

Thanks for clarifying this.  Shuffle all in folder view is a must-have for me.  

 

That's actually one of my only requirements and why I gave the X5 "just" 3.5 Stars in my Head-fi review. If this limit is not really addressed, I might have to edit the review since I had a note by Joe saying that they would fix "File Management" issues...

 

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Originally Posted by sandalaudio View Post
 

 

I think this is a somewhat ironic and embarrassing problem, where if someone complains about the 5800 file limit, then that automatically means that person is using low bit or lossy compressed files, which means all the effort Fiio has put into its super high res and extremely linear D/A conversion process is wasted.

 

It's almost like somebody shouting "I refuse to buy this Ferrari because it doesn't have space to fit my five kids!".

 

The important thing is that the cost and technology put into the X5 is to achieve extremely high precision and quality in the analogue output. X5 is not actually a beefy powerhouse headphone amp for handling any given loads. People might as well use some other high powered portable amps if all the files they use aren't up to the standard of what X5's D/A can deliver.

 



I'll say it again - I have around 18-19000 songs in a VARIETY of formats. I have many FLAC and WAV files and moving forward most if not all of the stuff I get will be lossless. BUT I also still have a lot in ogg and mp3 (minimum 160 in ogg, 224 in mp3). I do not want to re-rip what I have in ogg and mp3 because I have neither the time nor the inclination to do so with that many albums (ignoring the fact that most of my collection is boxed up in the loft anyway!).

So, I'm looking at the X5 and similar for the SQ with the large amount of lossless files I have, but also hoping that the X5 (or whatever player I get) will also be able to handle the even larger number of lossy files I have - I do not want to carry around multiple source units for those different file formats, nor a case full of memory cards.

So your car analogy does not really apply in my case.

Besides, the Fiio comes with the ability to play lossy file formats and, by all accounts, with better SQ than non-hi def audio players (assuming a decent bit rate to begin with, of course).

So the problem I have is neither embarrassing, nor ironic.

 

Hear hear!

post #6420 of 19481
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Originally Posted by Bray90820 View Post
 

So I just received my X5 today and i noticed that when I use custom EQ the volume is is very quiet. I was just wondering if that was normal or not 

 

It was explained that any EQ takes the volume down 6db to allow headroom. Just reading the manual like a good little boy while awaiting delivery, there is a 6db boost available in the Gain setting for less efficient headphones. Would applying this put the volume back without affecting sound quality?  I'm sure there must be a good reason why not, otherwise it would have been put forward earlier:D

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