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post #6376 of 19490

While the library limit was first a disappointment for me, I've found over the last few days that browsing by folder works well...if the structure makes sense. As I have it now, I sort by Album Artist\Album so I can drop into any album and play, with or without shuffling. But, I don't always want to listen to a single album by a single artist. Being able to start playing at any level of the folder structure would be a nice way to play everything by the artist.

 

Hopefully a more robust playlist implementation is coming soon. The 'Favorites' function is seriously lacking in that I can only add a single track at a time. Being able to easily add multiple tracks/folders to the Favorites at a time would be great.

post #6377 of 19490

"most people who have tested themselves agree that there's no audible difference between a well encoded 320 MP3 and a FLAC..."

 

This is true to a certain extent and on plenty of people's setups. However, I seem to find the better your equipment is the more audible difference there is between the two. On an iPod Classic with middling cans they absolutely sound the same to me. On decent speakers via a reasonable amp the difference is quite clear (everything else about the files being the same) and on my studio monitors it is really like night and day. You couldn't possibly confuse the two sounds. edit: That is the kind of clarity I hope for on the X5.


Edited by thericochet - 4/8/14 at 7:56am
post #6378 of 19490

"And yes, why won't ReplayGain will be ever supported in the X3/X5 if I am reading recent posts correctly? Is it a hardware issue, or just something to do with the software architecture of the firmware?"

 

I think the last we heard, they were working on it. It might be supported by now, I don't know, haven't received my unit yet.

post #6379 of 19490
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Originally Posted by Kendoji View Post

 Not that I want to start 'that argument', but most people who have tested themselves agree that there's no audible difference between a well encoded 320 MP3 and a FLAC, or even a super duper hi-res FLAC (of the same master and recording).

 

I never got this comparison. Is there a difference between 320 MP3 and VBR 0 MP3?

post #6380 of 19490

V0 is VBR up to 320kbps (usually winds up around 250-280), LAME encoded.

edit: 320kbps MP3s are not VBR but constant bit rate and will even encode silence at 320kbps.

V0 will sound pretty much identical to a LAME 320 but be ~20% smaller. That's the theory/purpose.

Some 320s will sound worse than V0s and not support gapless etc. depending on what was used to encode them.


Edited by thericochet - 4/8/14 at 8:05am
post #6381 of 19490
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V0 is VBR up to 320kbps (usually winds up around 250-280), LAME encoded.

Will sound pretty much identical to a LAME 320 but be ~20% smaller. That's the theory/purpose.

Some 320s will sound worse than V0s and not support gapless etc. depending on what was used to encode them.

 

Yeah I always thought that V0 was as good SQ wise as 320 but obviously smaller. Yet everyone makes the comparison of 320 to FLAC.

 

Personally I can't hear the difference between V0 and 320, but can between V0 and FLAC (a/b-ing in foobar). FLAC is a fuller, richer, less digital sound sound.

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Originally Posted by thericochet View Post
 

"And yes, why won't ReplayGain will be ever supported in the X3/X5 if I am reading recent posts correctly? Is it a hardware issue, or just something to do with the software architecture of the firmware?"

 

I think the last we heard, they were working on it. It might be supported by now, I don't know, haven't received my unit yet.

 

I heard of this for some time, but I think I saw a very recent post stating that it will not be worked on...

 

Either that or my eyes are playing tricks on me :o

post #6383 of 19490
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Example:  I have around 10 versions of, say, Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, 14 version of Rite of Spring, and so on.   Some of them contain another couple of pieces.   I know all the albums by the covers, so i know which one has what - however, if I just go by the album title, I have no way of figuring out which Organ Symphony album also has a performance of Samson and Delilah.   Not to mention even the primary performance becomes hard to select - now, which of these 14 Rite of Spring folders is the one conducted by Ozawa again??

That I can understand well. But wouldn't you need a player with a touchscreen to slide in a good cover view in the first place. I put only a small number of albums around at the same time. So I really need only basic functionality but do also think that there is a lot of room for improvements for users who don't plan to use the player's capacity with hi-res file but want to index a large music library.
post #6384 of 19490

I haven't seen that post (edit: about lack of replaygain support in the pipeline) and wouldn't like to see it at all... replaygain is pretty essential functionality IMO. Like gapless playback, its absence makes people sad.

post #6385 of 19490

Anyone got any updates on places with stock that can ship today to USA? I have the HM-901, but it just really isn't a "portable" solution, which is something I need. Hopefully the X5 fits this bill.

post #6386 of 19490
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Originally Posted by thericochet View Post
 

I haven't seen that post (edit: about lack of replaygain support in the pipeline) and wouldn't like to see it at all... replaygain is pretty essential functionality IMO. Like gapless playback, its absence makes people sad.

 

Thankfully there is a workaround for this: Just use foobar2000 to reconvert your files with that ReplayGain processing option.

post #6387 of 19490

"Thankfully there is a workaround for this: Just use foobar2000 to reconvert your files with that ReplayGain processing option."

 

That alters the audio data irreversibly though, in the case of FLAC, and means you can't reconstruct the original CD 100% anymore (I keep a FLAC/log/cue of all my CDs).

 

Wouldn't like to have to keep a separate set of 1TB worth of FLACs just so that they have the gain applied. I might have to do so just to embed the album art anyway (currently it isn't embedded and last I heard the X5 won't just display folder.jpg like it sensibly should)

post #6388 of 19490
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Originally Posted by thericochet View Post
 

"Thankfully there is a workaround for this: Just use foobar2000 to reconvert your files with that ReplayGain processing option."

 

That alters the audio data irreversibly though, in the case of FLAC, and means you can't reconstruct the original CD 100% anymore (I keep a FLAC/log/cue of all my CDs).

 

Wouldn't like to have to keep a separate set of 1TB worth of FLACs just so that they have the gain applied. I might have to do so just to embed the album art anyway (currently it isn't embedded and last I heard the X5 won't just display folder.jpg like it sensibly should)

 

That's something we will have to live with for now unfortunately...

post #6389 of 19490
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Originally Posted by darkarn View Post
 

 

I'm not sure if I am right about this, but I think the X5 is more for people who listen to less number of insanely high res files rather than someone who spams ridiculously high number of "normal" res files (even 48/44.1kHz FLACs count here!)

 

And yes, why won't ReplayGain will be ever supported in the X3/X5 if I am reading recent posts correctly? Is it a hardware issue, or just something to do with the software architecture of the firmware?

 

the resource is limited ( ie, the RAM, the speed ), and X3, X5 need to supports up to 192k/24b, If we supports all kinds of feasture, the Soc can not handle so many work at the same time. not sure if you get my point and that is why

 

Apple limited the format of music, video, photo in their device .

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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post
 

 

the resource is limited ( ie, the RAM, the speed ), and X3, X5 need to supports up to 192k/24b, If we supports all kinds of feasture, the Soc can not handle so many work at the same time. not sure if you get my point and that is why

 

Apple limited the format of music, video, photo in their device .

 

Ah I see, a pity indeed... Hopefully the X7 (or even X1 and X3 Mk II?) will have something strong enough to support all these kinds of features :)

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