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post #4921 of 19528
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Originally Posted by Typhoon859 View Post
 

Darn!...  So perfect!  A S/PDIF input would really seal the deal here in making this worthwhile to getting over an Android Smartphone + a portable USB DAC/Amp.  Since either way you'd be carrying your phone around + an extra device, why not simply use your phone as what stores the media and a cheaper (perhaps even better sounding) USB DAC/Amp of choice (like the E18 for instance precisely for this purpose)?

 

Adding a S/PDIF input would truly give this device something which no phone would have and would increase it's application significantly, making it worthwhile to carry around and/or buy instead of simply a portable DAC/Amp.  

 

The only things which the X5 currently holds over the alternative seems to be the rare cases where you might want to daisy chain another DAC through S/PDIF, for the small market of users who may actually utilize the DSD functionality, and/or if you really need more than 128GB of space for portable use...  Am I missing what the reason would otherwise be to invest in this DAP?

 

Excellent sound quality without external amplification at a very reasonable price? Just throwing that out there as something that some of us might find relevant as a reason to "invest in this DAP".

post #4922 of 19528
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post
 

 

Excellent sound quality without external amplification at a very reasonable price? Just throwing that out there as something that some of us might find relevant as a reason to "invest in this DAP".

But as I said, you'd be carrying your phone around with you anyway so you'd be carrying two devices regardless..  You even have a more expansive list of options when it comes to finding a companion for your phone in terms of sound quality (and you really need not look much further than the E18).  You also have the benefit of having a comfortable UI and button controls, and it's obviously also a cheaper investment.  It's the more comfortable and better option for the purpose you mentioned...

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of this.  As I said, I think it's practically perfect!  Just, for what it is, in this day and age, I think people looking for a all-in-one audio solution would find this device instantly worth really considering if a S/PDIF input was added, thinking of the additional applications that would bring to it.


Edited by Typhoon859 - 3/4/14 at 6:44am
post #4923 of 19528
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Originally Posted by JonathanCandel View Post
 

There are companies that offer the service to ship these 'US only goods' to Europe etc.
I am looking into it at the moment... It saves me a lot of money!

 

I'm interested as well!

post #4924 of 19528

Just received this about Bug 45 "Remove Lock Screen Warning or allow us to turn it off":

 

 

Excellent news! Well done, James and Joe!

post #4925 of 19528
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Originally Posted by Typhoon859 View Post
 

But as I said, you'd be carrying your phone around with you anyway so you'd be carrying two devices regardless..  You even have a more expansive list of options when it comes to finding a companion for your phone in terms of sound quality (and you really need not look much further than the E18).  You also have the benefit of having a comfortable UI and button controls, and it's obviously also a cheaper investment.  It's the more comfortable and better option for the purpose you mentioned...

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of this.  As I said, I think it's practically perfect!  Just, for what it is, in this day and age, I think people looking for a all-in-one audio solution would find this device instantly worth really considering if a S/PDIF input was added, thinking of the additional applications that would bring to it.

I find the solution of interconnecting a phone to a DAC/Amp inelegant and cumbersome. I also like to know that my phone has juice for things like making phone calls, web browsing, games and that kind of thing. Also you are never sure when and how the phone manufacturer stops sending the music through the interconnect forcing you to go through the jack and use the phone's Amp/DAC rendering you external DAC / Amp useless.

 

To me it is a neat solution having a device just for music. I was contemplating an iPod along my iPhone but now I will just wait for the X5. I think it does have a fair amount of uses even if it seems redundant at first look.

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Originally Posted by vrapan View Post
 

I find the solution of interconnecting a phone to a DAC/Amp inelegant and cumbersome. I also like to know that my phone has juice for things like making phone calls, web browsing, games and that kind of thing. Also you are never sure when and how the phone manufacturer stops sending the music through the interconnect forcing you to go through the jack and use the phone's Amp/DAC rendering you external DAC / Amp useless.

 

To me it is a neat solution having a device just for music. I was contemplating an iPod along my iPhone but now I will just wait for the X5. I think it does have a fair amount of uses even if it seems redundant at first look.

Fair enough.  I personally just didn't have that problem with the mentioned combination.  I found it only adds to the comfort because of buttons (the E18) as opposed to directly using the phone.  In any case, I'm not saying it makes no sense, but the additional S/PDIF input I'm saying would significantly contribute AT THE VERY LEAST to my decision in purchasing this.  It really would just do everything audio related then with the high fidelity which I require.  As it is, as simply a music player without being able to utilize it's built-in DAC/amp in the way that I'd like, I can't see much use for it (or otherwise the benefit) and it wouldn't be worth replacing (or investing instead of) an option such as the one I mentioned.  I was just hoping that perhaps there is/was something I'm missing on the matter.  Thanks for your response either way!


Edited by Typhoon859 - 3/4/14 at 8:09am
post #4927 of 19528
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Originally Posted by Typhoon859 View Post
 

Darn!...  So perfect!  A S/PDIF input would really seal the deal here in making this worthwhile to get over an Android Smartphone + a portable USB DAC/Amp combo.  Since either way you'd be carrying your phone around + an extra device, why not simply use your phone as what stores the media and a cheaper (perhaps even better sounding) USB DAC/Amp of choice (like the E18 for instance precisely for this purpose)?

 

Adding a S/PDIF input would truly give this device something which no phone would obviously ever have (nor would make sense to have) and would furthermore increase it's application significantly, making it worthwhile to carry around and/or buy instead of simply a portable DAC/Amp which you would latch onto your smartphone.

 

The only things which the X5 currently holds over the mentioned alternative seems to be the rare cases where you might want to daisy chain another DAC through the S/PDIF output, for the small market of users who may actually utilize the DSD functionality, and/or if you really need more than 128GB of space for portable use...  Am I missing what the reason would otherwise be to invest in this DAP?

Using a phone has some disadvantages:

 

Non-clean sound due to implementation of electronic design

Extra heat from other components

Interruption listening to music due to calls and notifications from data elements.

General storage limitations (some better than others)

Huge hit on battery life.

Updates to a phone may or may not interfere with SQ elements.  SQ can be affected by updates to DAPs but they are all focused on one thing.  Sound.

Unique factor - not mainstream

Price - performance - Longevity -  DAPs generally (at least in my experience) last longer than phones.  You get rid of phones and have different Daps for different reasons depending on uses.

A giant touchscreen can be annoying when you only want to listen to music.  (personal preference)

Generally easier to listen to as there are generally tactile buttons to use while DAP is in your pocket and such.

post #4928 of 19528

I purchased the CC BH Headphone Amp. Soon I'm going to purchase the X5. 

post #4929 of 19528
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Originally Posted by JonathanCandel View Post
 

There are companies that offer the service to ship these 'US only goods' to Europe etc.
I am looking into it at the moment... It saves me a lot of money!


I would also enjoy info. Amazon.ca prices are ridiculous compared to Amazon.com

post #4930 of 19528
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I think some people are so anal-retentive that any aspect of a UI that doesn't conform to their idea of "intuitive" is completely unacceptable and hissy-fit inducing, as if having to use one's brain is asking too much or something....

 

Sorry, but I disagree - I'd say more but apparently this is a touchy topic, so let's leave it at this.  

 

It is great that you find the X3/X5 UI fantastically perfect in all respects, but there is no need to start launching ad hominems against people who have different preferences from you.  "Anal-retentive", "hissy-fit-inducing".. really?   Isnt that against the forum rules?

 

Here's a good, balanced review of the X5:

http://www.headfonia.com/better-but-fiio-x5/


Edited by vkalia - 3/4/14 at 9:55am
post #4931 of 19528
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Originally Posted by Typhoon859 View Post
 

Darn!...  So perfect!  A S/PDIF input would really seal the deal here in making this worthwhile to get over an Android Smartphone + a portable USB DAC/Amp combo.  Since either way you'd be carrying your phone around + an extra device, why not simply use your phone as what stores the media and a cheaper (perhaps even better sounding) USB DAC/Amp of choice (like the E18 for instance precisely for this purpose)?

 

Adding a S/PDIF input would truly give this device something which no phone would obviously ever have (nor would make sense to have) and would furthermore increase it's application significantly, making it worthwhile to carry around and/or buy instead of simply a portable DAC/Amp which you would latch onto your smartphone.  

 

The only things which the X5 currently holds over the mentioned alternative seems to be the rare cases where you might want to daisy chain another DAC through the S/PDIF output, for the small market of users who may actually utilize the DSD functionality, and/or if you really need more than 128GB of space for portable use...  Am I missing what the reason would otherwise be to invest in this DAP?

While it isn't super small, an example of a device that you could pair with your iPhone or Android phone already exists in the iDSD. Don't want to derail this thread but it is a mighty cool device. Battery or USB powered, with a great DAC and headphone amp. $190.

post #4932 of 19528

*wonders how I should take product shots of the X5*


Edited by darkarn - 3/4/14 at 10:02am
post #4933 of 19528
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Originally Posted by vkalia View Post
 

 

Sorry, but I disagree - I'd say more but apparently this is a touchy topic, so let's leave it at this.

 

It is great that you find the X3/X5 UI fantastically perfect in all respects, but there is no need to start launching ad hominems against people who have different preferences from you.  "Anal-retentive", "hissy-fit-inducing".. really?   Isnt that against the forum rules?

 

Here's a good, balanced review of the X5:

http://www.headfonia.com/better-but-fiio-x5/

I agree everyone has personal preference.

 

In interface design the best designs are done so well there is little or thought required to utilize it.  (Steve Jobs)

 

Steve took an ipad to 3rd world countries where children have only have 3rd grade education and were able to utilze an ipad and access applications and change settings.  That's good interface design.  If you have to think too long about it, you got it wrong.

 

I personally don't use apple stuff.  I don't mind a more complicated UI if SQ is better.  When it comes to UI design though, I hope manufacturers take a note from Apple a bit as I'm sure they do.

post #4934 of 19528
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Originally Posted by batteraziiz View Post
 


I would also enjoy info. Amazon.ca prices are ridiculous compared to Amazon.com

If you find somewhere that can do this, please PM me. I also find that half of the time amazon.ca doesn't have anything in stock either.

post #4935 of 19528
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Originally Posted by Shenook View Post
 

I agree everyone has personal preference.

 

In interface design the best designs are done so well there is little or thought required to utilize it.  (Steve Jobs)

 

Steve took an ipad to 3rd world countries where children have only have 3rd grade education and were able to utilze an ipad and access applications and change settings.  That's good interface design.  If you have to think too long about it, you got it wrong.

 

I personally don't use apple stuff.  I don't mind a more complicated UI if SQ is better.  When it comes to UI design though, I hope manufacturers take a note from Apple a bit as I'm sure they do.


Photoshop is the most ubiquitous and powerful tool for photo manipulation all over the world, but it takes years of usage to even learn how to use it's most basic features. Just because it is difficult does not make it bad. In fact Steve Jobs dumbing down of operating systems might be good for grandmas and babies, but it is bad for the larger computing world because it means you don't have to learn anything about the system, which means you can't fix it when it breaks down, and you have to take it to a bunch of "Geniuses" to get it fixed. It teaches you complacency and ignorance.

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